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aspiartist
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21 Aug 2008, 12:41 pm

Check your interpretations at the door and thanks for posting. It's good to know who the frauds are.

I can't be bothered by any more of your nonsense.

Take care



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21 Aug 2008, 12:51 pm

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Take care

You too. I hope you feel better about the next thread you post in.



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21 Aug 2008, 1:01 pm

I discovered that if I injure myself like say I burn myself on the stove, I'll replay the motion and imagine that it feels good. I've done that many times and the pain subsides quickly. One time I smashed my hand with a rock and it healed and all the pain vanished. That is how I discovered it. Twice I burned myself on the stove and the feeling went away after replaying it in my mind that it felt warm and comfy rather than remember the burning sensation. The oven mitt was badly charred but my fingers were just fine after about a minute.
I tell my 4 year old to do the same thing and she can do it too. It's awesome. I read about it in a shaman book after I already practiced it so it's not something that only we can do.



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21 Aug 2008, 1:13 pm

That's really sad to me that you teach your 4 year old child to hurt herself like that. That is no way to handle feelings or teach a child to handle them.

I don't know if you are for real or not but that is truly unthinkable.

Good-luck to you but much more so for your poor child.



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21 Aug 2008, 1:27 pm

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Okay, thanks guys. I hope you've enjoyed your laugh. I know I have.

It seems that you are figuratively stepping in front of a lot of swinging fists that weren't meant for you.

Lighten up.

Not everyone is out to hurt you if they disagree, joke, or speak plainly with you. It's just not worth it to go through life looking for excuses to complain, cry, and whine about being "wounded."


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21 Aug 2008, 1:29 pm

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I discovered that if I injure myself like say I burn myself on the stove, I'll replay the motion and imagine that it feels good. I've done that many times and the pain subsides quickly.


That's very interesting. When I was a child I developed something similar-

I used to have a regular series of deep intramuscular injections that were really painful and made me really anxious beforehand and fatigued after. I analysed the problem and realised that the pain was really very short lived as the needle went in. I found that by concentrating very hard, simply by staring at a point on the wall with all of my attention, I could block out the pain almost entirely for the duration of the injection, and the soreness afterwards was much easier to deal with.

I think the key here is for the individual to find a compelling form of distraction that draws the attention completely away from the experience of the pain.


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21 Aug 2008, 1:47 pm

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That's really sad to me that you teach your 4 year old child to hurt herself like that. That is no way to handle feelings or teach a child to handle them.

I don't know if you are for real or not but that is truly unthinkable.

Good-luck to you but much more so for your poor child.


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21 Aug 2008, 1:53 pm

IMO Personality Disorders of any kind do not belong on the spectrum.



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21 Aug 2008, 2:15 pm

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IMO Personality Disorders of any kind do not belong on the spectrum.

Which spectrum?

Personality disorders are defined by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) as "an enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates markedly from the expectations of the culture of the individual who exhibits it". Personality disorders are also categorized in ICD-10 Chapter V: Mental and behavioural disorders, specifically under Mental and behavioral disorders: 28F60-F69.29 Disorders of adult personality and behavior. Th e listing of the disorders follows:

Disorders of adult personality and behaviour:

1.0.0 - Specific personality disorders
1.1.0 - Paranoid personality disorder
1.2.0 - Schizoid personality disorder
1.3.0 - Dissocial personality disorder
1.3.1 - Antisocial personality disorder
1.4.0 - Emotionally unstable personality disorder
1.4.1 - Borderline personality disorder
1.5.0 - Histrionic personality disorder
1.6.0 - Anankastic personality disorder
1.6.1 - Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
1.7.0 - Anxious (avoidant) personality disorder
1.8.0 - Dependent personality disorder
1.9.0 - Other specific personality disorders
1.9.1 - Eccentric personality disorder
1.9.2 - "Haltlose" type personality disorder
1.9.3 - Immature personality disorder
1.9.4 - Narcissistic personality disorder
1.9.5 - Passive-aggressive personality disorder
1.9.6 - Psychoneurotic personality disorder
1.A.0 - Personality disorder, unspecified

2.0.0 - Mixed and other personality disorders

3.0.0 - Enduring personality changes, not attributable to brain damage and disease

4.0.0 - Habit and impulse disorders
4.1.0 - Pathological gambling
4.2.0 - Pathological fire-setting (pyromania)
4.3.0 - Pathological stealing (kleptomania)
4.4.0 - Trichotillomania (pulling out one's hair)

5.0.0 - Gender identity disorders
5.1.0 - Transsexualism
5.2.0 - Dual-role transvestism
5.3.0 - Gender identity disorder of childhood

6.0.0 - Disorders of sexual preference
6.1.0 - Fetishism
6.2.0 - Fetishistic transvestism
6.3.0 - Exhibitionism
6.4.0 - Voyeurism
6.5.0 - Paedophilia
6.6.0 - Sadomasochism
6.7.0 - Multiple disorders of sexual preference
6.8.0 - Other disorders of sexual preference
6.8.1 - Frotteurism
6.8.2 - Necrophilia

7.0.0 - Psychological and behavioural disorders associated with sexual development and orientation
7.1.0 - Sexual maturation disorder
7.2.0 - Ego-dystonic sexual orientation
7.3.0 - Sexual relationship disorder
7.4.0 - Other psychosexual development disorders
7.5.0 - Psychosexual development disorder, unspecified

8.0.0 - Other disorders of adult personality and behaviour
8.1.0 - Elaboration of physical symptoms for psychological reasons
8.2.0 - Intentional production or feigning of symptoms or disabilities, either physical or psychological (factitious disorder)
8.2.1 - Munchausen syndrome
8.3.0 - Other specified disorders of adult personality and behaviour

9.0.0 - Unspecified disorder of adult personality and behaviour


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21 Aug 2008, 2:17 pm

Autism, if that clears things up for you.



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21 Aug 2008, 2:26 pm

Autism is a brain development disorder. However, most - if not all - persons with some form of Autism also exhibit one or more personality disorders, so it is easy to see why Auties and Aspies may be classified by their personality disorder as well as, or instead of, their particular ASD.


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21 Aug 2008, 2:39 pm

If you're comorbid with a personality disorder, you're not autistic. I just looked. It isn't listed under those things comorbid to autism. "Personality" is the key word to look for.

Work it out with yourselves. I'm done with this thread.



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21 Aug 2008, 2:47 pm

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I'm done with this thread.

No you're not. You'll post in this thread again. Go ahead ... prove me right!


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21 Aug 2008, 3:00 pm

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If you're comorbid with a personality disorder, you're not autistic.

I think different practitioners might have different views on this one. Theoretically it might be plausible to have both, but I think a great deal of caution would have to exercised in order to be certain 'symptoms' being attributed to a personality disorder were not really misinterpreted symptoms of AS.

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I just looked. It isn't listed under those things comorbid to autism.

Neither is the common cold, although a cold is obviously not a contra-indicator to ASDs.



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21 Aug 2008, 3:47 pm

Aspiartist - in trying to spell you name, I realise it stands for aspie artist.

I would like to see some of your art work.

Having feelings of being hurt too many times, creates psychological wounds, deep ones.
I'm sorry, I hope you can find a way to achieve a feeling of recovery.
I notice in another thread you spoke about a feeling of building anger??? have I remember correctly? I wonder if you are experiencing feelings related to of previous traumatic stressers, this may be coming to a head and surfacing at the moment.
I may be well off the mark, but .... just my thoughts.

warm regards.



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21 Aug 2008, 6:07 pm

aspiartist

Your completely out of control and out of line.

Check your hostility at the door thanks.

Any kind of neurological/cognitive disorger diagnosis from any doctor is only a vague description of an affliction that a minority of people suffer.

The diagnoses isn't an absolute complete answer to what Aspergers, or for that matter any variation of neurological or cognitive disorder actually is, fully and in it's totality. The diagnoses is an aid not an answer and getting worked up and insulting people and projecting hostility into a forum that is meant to heal the tortured mind isn't helping anyone.

If your not actually just blatently trolling then your hostility is unbecoming of anyone of sound mind and reason.

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