hallucinogenics

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I'm assuming that the effects that hallucinogens have on obsessive/repetitive/egocentric thoughts, is what leads to this "clarity" and connectedness to others that many may experience, especially after the acute phase of hallucinating is over (the trials with OCD involve a lack of hallucinations, so I'm assuming they involve small doses or a lack of parts that induce such).

If it takes away your repetitive thoughts [and also perhaps changes one's sensory perception, so the environment doesn't affect you so much via overstimulation], I can definitely see it making someone more "NT".

Ah, I see this from eMedicine on LSD:

If it affects one's sensory sensitivity, and especially in a positive way, it'd definitely make someone with an ASD feel better in a social environment if they don't experience a negative reaction to the drug.

(Just FYI and all, I haven't "done" any illicit drugs [except those prescribed, which can be illicit without said prescription--the irony], but I find any and all drugs/poisons fascinating.)

The only thing that seems to make me more NTish as far as social interaction goes is cocaine. It makes the crash all the more depressing, like you're being dragged back into your shell kicking and screaming. I've only done it once in earnest, but it was quite an experience.

As far as hallucinogens, I adore them because they make my internal world come out which fills me with joy.

I would say that I became more NT because it was so much more than just losing my inhibitions. I was very distincly aware that I was viewing the world from a different vantage point than before. The way I was BEFORE mushrooms, I would be in a social situation, say a group discussion where the topic turned to some taboo subject - and I would be really scared to say anything or ask anything because out of fear of losing some potential friends. Either that or I would get too serious about the topic and start debating something that was supposed to be for "s**ts and giggles".

But on mushrooms it was a qualitatively different experience! It was about sitting with people that I liked and cared about and *communing* with them. It was a burning desire to genuinely get to know each one as a feeling entity. There was no fear involved because making sure that our opinions were the same was not the point! The topic of discussion was not even the point! Validation and caring at all what the other person thinks was the point of it. Even if we disagreed it was okay, because I wanted them to know more than anything that they were worth every second of my time and every ounce of my attention.

It's like when you have a problem and you confide in two different people, they both have good intentions BUT: one of them analyzes what you say, shows you where you messed up, and tells you what you should do about it (my normal aspie reaction) and the other one will console you and hear you out and ask what they can do to help you (how I FELT on mushrooms)

As for my normally limited interests as an aspie, I felt so different on mushrooms. I wasn't fishing for things that were interesting to me, but rather I was interested in EVERYTHING. Normally only certain topics "matter" to me whereas on mushrooms it felt the other way around - EVERYTHING matters! EVERYTHING was interesting! And i felt "bigger". Like my mind and heart were big enough to appreciate the totality and grasp the complexity of the universe and of the human experience.

Before mushrooms I had wonderful moments in my life like during holidays surrounded by just my family, or wonderful moments of achievement, or wonderful moments of time spent delving into my passions/interests. But on mushrooms It was just WONDERFUL TO BE ALIVE . I was living with a passion for life Trust me, it was so much more than just "not feeling nervous anymore" at least for me

I would say that the feeling of connectedness coincides with the most acute phase of the hallucinations, but certainly most people seem to get the warm fuzzy affectionate 'connected' feelings on "just a body buzz" doses that I would have deemed sub-effective. I've actually very little experince with even, uh, normal recreational amounts, because when I was into the stuff, I had pints of it around and took eyedroppers full, an act generally regarded to be inadvisable.

It seems odd that it would reduce ones tendancy towards overstimulation, since to me it seemed to heighten sensory perception.

It would be interesting to see video of those who claim it makes them 'more NT' and speculate as to wether or not they seem so from an external viewpoint. LSD has always seemed to me to make people pretty obviously weird. I remember an occassion where I was was largely engaged in staring at some overwhelmingly wonderful visual effects coming off a large painting, while telling a guy that he could not permanently rent one of my house bedrooms which he had occupied for the last few days, and further, he needed to move out before the end of the week, and still further, until that day he needed to reduce his talking by at least 95% and stop drinking the alcohol that made him talk even more than usual. Normally this sort of conversation would be profoundly difficult for me. At the time I, seriously influenced by LSD, was entirely relaxed and felt that it went perfectly smoothly and even pleasantly. In truth my odd demeanor had frightened him very badly and he left immediately, leaving a number of his heavier possessions behind. Given how much I heard about it in the following month, I speculate that if I'd behaved that way in a more ordinary situation (rather than a scenario that was wonky in itself -- Acid-Head kicks Drunk out of Acid-House) I'd have gotten into all sorts of trouble.

Me too buddy, 100% me too.

I've done LSA (extracted from morning glory seeds), a relative of LSD. I behaved nothing like you would expect a "NT" to behave. I had the normal effects from it most people have, so I guess you could say I acted the same as a "NT" would on LSA when I was on LSA, but I didnt act like anybody not on drugs would.

My "nt" friend acted pretty weird on it too though. He went silent (wouldnt and couldnt speak) for an hour or so, very strange XD.

I recall an NT friend cite one singular time that by her standards I seemed lucid and actually "connecting" with her..I volluntarilly looked her right in the eye and everything!!...I was on LSD at the time....

i find that when i ingest LSA containing seeds such as Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, after the obvious primary euphoria passes, i have increased social interactions and im in a generally more outward and pleasant mood. this lasts for up to 2 hours after initial effects.