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29 Aug 2008, 8:58 am

okay, this could get long winded.

The first and most important coping skill is personal space. Social situations are run by it, but NTs sublimate it completely.
There are different ranges of personal space and each range implies different kinds of social interactions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxemics

http://www.worsleyschool.net/socialarts ... space.html

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-personal-space.htm

This has some off topic stuff in it, but its easier than retyping the basics.
((edit, i just deleted the off topic stuff)

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Aural Fields
I personally have developed a reality model of the various levels of the human Aura. For healing purposes, it isn’t really useful information, and so I understand how that information didn’t make it into the very medicinal mysticisms that talk about chakras and flowpaths. Where an understanding is pragmatic is in interpersonal relationships.
There are several layers to the aura, moving outward from the body to hundreds or even thousands of feet away. I have color coded this system, yet this is taking a visual reality model to a non visual reality. Color is a way of making easy associations, at the same time, different people associate different things with different colors. This is why I am very skeptical when people tell me my aura is one color or another, especially if they claim to be able to see it visually, which can happen, but only under phenomenological circumstances. Also, there is so much aural activity that labeling the whole as one color is to me ludicrous.
We start at the outermost level, which I call Red. This is Predatory, survival consciousness. It takes stock of the creatures around it, and assesses threat and nutritional value. In cities, it keeps us conscious of people just as they first come around the corner. The Red field is important to understand and learn to perceive. It can be used by you to keep you on your toes, to push people out of your space, and to help you see opportunities. You can observe it in others to see if they are open to being approached by you, or are wary of you.
People subliminally bounce off of each others Red fields all the time without ever realizing it. It is fun to stand on a crowded street corner, or walk around in a mall, and watch people react to each other on this level.
The next level in is what I call Orange, and it is about social appraisal. “Is this person someone That I can feel comfortable holding space with?” This is activated at bus stops and so forth. It is the comfortable place that strangers hang out in together without talking or communicating. It is herd space, in that it is the loosest possible level of cohesion, yet, it does psychologically bind people together.
The next level is what I call Brown. It is about taste and preference, about what you really want to let into your world. It is the boundary of your sense of reality. Keeping people outside of this space means that one is not aligned ideologically or emotionally with someone else. Be it a business man or a punk rocker, or a pair of gang members from different but non rival gangs, brown space is a place they will bump into each other, and then, they will bounce back out.
The Next level is the natural shielding from energy, and the permeable membrane that defines the “egg” of the aural field. Up till now, we can consider these fields to be amorphous and fluid, going where ever the individual puts that kind of attention. Now we cross into the Aural levels that have a constant form, are architecturally solid. The name for it is “black.” Black is a permeable membrane, usually about one or two feet away from the body, which encapsulates the physical body like an egg. An egg which is dented on top and on the bottom, as universal force flows down and into the 7th chakra, and elemental force flows up and through root chakra.
Next we have blue space. This is conversational space, the comfortable place two friends inhabit across a small table from each other, chatting to themselves. It is the space people walk in together, down the street. It is the space of communication and friendship.
Next we have Green space. Green space is close enough to be sensual or sexual, but not actually touching. This is the space people occupy together when hanging out while first falling in love, and the space that men go to titty bars in order to have someone of the opposite gender enter. It is the space where those who do not have intention of being intimate with each other eventually become uneasy because it is “too close”. Or, “space invasive.”
Finally, just underneath the surface of the skin, we have yellow space, the Space of the life-force field. (In very young or very healthy people, it might be larger.)

The Conduits and the flowpaths usually come off as white in this model. Another aural Field, what I call purple space, should be mentioned. Emitting from the occipital chakras and the temple chakras, the purple field is even more elastic than anything else. It is sometimes completely dormant and inactive, and other times goes out beyond the red field. It is the subtle sensory organ of the Aural body.

All of these Fields can be perceived, and once perceived, you can learn to intentionally manipulate your own fields. This can give you a decided advantage in counseling and crisis management situations. (As well as every other level of human interaction…Remember your Ethics.)


Aural space and personal boundaries;
There is something which happens in society which is that we create artificial social boundaries which have no basis in any reality other than creating a social norm. Thus, we can call the aural boundaries “natural” boundaries, and other boundaries “artificial.”
All of these boundaries must be respected but only the natural boundaries can be anticipated outside of social context.
Artificial boundaries include but are not limited to incest taboo, age relevant sexuality, nudity taboo, public displays of affection\ sexuality, and so forth. They also include non violence taboo, and hierarchal order.
All of these artificial boundaries have reasons, some of them clearly more valid than others.
Non violence taboo is a necessary part of being human. Nudity taboo is just plain silly, and hierarchal order injures the individual in favor of society. Simply put, real ethics and real social functioning depend upon these boundaries on one level, but on another level, these boundaries inhibit the instinctual self and force us to repress our natural impulses. Thus, we end up with both Ego and Shadow, a schizophrenic form of consciousness.
In order to bring things back into normalacy, in order to function as a mage, we have to define the natural boundaries clearly, and learn to respect them without fail. In so doing, the artificial ones become mostly obsolete. The reason why we have to do this is because the only way to do real magick is to have access through the Tao into the innercosmic universe. It is only by changing ourselves within that we can effect change without. And the only way to get to the innercosm as our socialized consciousness currently exists is to enter into the realm of the shadow, and allow it to play as our inner child…. To give it the freedom and respect that it deserves as a part of ourselves, rather than diabolizing it. In this fashion, we tame the shadow, we incorporate it as part of ourselves, and eventually, if we are very competent, we gain access to the totality of ourselves….what psychologists call “integrating” when they talk about multiple personalities.
A mage of any true power or calibre is a person who has in fact integrated the ego with the shadow, and who is therefore conscious of the subconscious mind and its process. When this happens,
the mage ends up with a very powerful perspective about the nature of consciousness, as well as the subconscious mind and its psychology. There can be no better psychologist than one who has adapted themselves in this way.

The way that this happens, or the process that must be gone through is for people to spend time socially attempting to move into 2nd attention while operating from the perspective of intentional levels of heightened intimacy, while also operating with the mutual understanding of the erasure of artificial boundaries as much as is possible. The artificial boundaries outside of us are after all the causation of the boundary of the ego/unconscious self within. Its just a mirror…. As above, so below, as within, so without. Once the outer artificial boundaries collapse, so will the inner.


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29 Aug 2008, 9:04 am

It might be better to start threads to explore this.

Heres what I see as the Core reality models which made it possible for me to function.

1. personal space
2. Abraham maslow/ modern hierarchy of needs
3. Pavlov/ Social conditioning
4. Pack Psychology
5. Conversational Logic
6. Grounding and Centering
7. Breath work. Carlos casteneda once wrote "the difference between fear and courage is breathing."
8. Body language

All of these are worthy topics of their own threads. since you guys have been around longer than me, what forum on the board would be most appropriate to launch such an exploration?


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29 Aug 2008, 9:25 am

Politics, philosophy and religion appears of closest relevence, should however, include phychology.

Tricks with Mirrors

i

It's no coincidence
this is a used
furniture warehouse.

I enter with you
and become a mirror.

Mirrors
are the perfect lovers,

that's it, carry me up the stairs
by the edges, don't drop me,

that would be, back luck,
throw me on the bed

reflecting side up,
fall into me,

it will be your own
mouth you hit, firm and glassy,

your own eyes you find you
are up against, closed.


ii

There is more to a mirror
than you looking at

your full-length body
flawless but reversed,

there is more than this dead blue
oblong eye turned outwards to you.

Think about the frame.
The frame is carved, it is important,

it exists, it does not reflect you,
it does not recede and recede, it has limits

and reflections of its own.
There's a nail in the back

to hang it with; there are several nails,
think about the nails,

pay attention to the nail
marks in the wood,

they are important too.

iii

Don't assume it is passive
or easy, this clarity

with which I give you yourself.
Consider what restraint it

takes: breath withheld, no anger
or joy disturbing the surface

of the ice.
You are suspended in me

beautiful and frozen, I
preserve you, in me you are safe.

It is not a trick either,
it is a craft:

mirrors are crafty.


iv

I wanted to stop this,
this life flattened against the wall,

mute and devoid of colour,
built of pure light,

this life of vision only, split
and remote, a lucid impasse.

I confess: this is not a mirror,
it is a door

I am trapped behind.
I wanted you to see me here,


say the releasing word, whatever
that may be, open the wall.

Instead you stand in front of me
combing your hair.


v

You don't like these metaphors.
All right:

Perhaps I am not a mirror.
Perhaps I am a pool.


Think about pools.

-- Margaret Atwood



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29 Aug 2008, 9:32 am

Tori Amos;

Quote:
"Silent All These Years"

Excuse me but can I be you for a while
My dog won't bite if you sit real still
I got the anti-Christ in the kitchen yellin' at me again
Yeah I can hear that
Been saved again by the garbage truck
I got something to say you know
But nothing comes
Yes I know what you think of me
You never shut-up
Yeah I can hear that

But what if I'm a mermaid
In these jeans of his
With her name still on it
Hey but I don't care
Cause sometimes
I said sometimes
I hear my voice
And it's been here
Silent All These Years

So you found a girl
Who thinks really deep thougts
What's so amazing about really deep thoughts
Boy you best praya that I bleed real soon
How's that thought for you
My scream got lost in a paper cup
You think there's a heaven
Where some screams have gone
I got 25 bucks and a cracker
Do you think it's enough
To get us there

Cause what if I'm a mermaid
In these jeans of his
With her name still on it
Hey but I don't care
Cause sometimes
I said sometimes
I hear my voice
And it's been here
Silent All These...

Years go by
Will I still be waiting
For somebody else to understand
Years go by
If I'm stripped of my beauty
And the orange clouds
Raining in head
Years go by
Will I choke on my tears
Till finally there is nothing left
One more casualty
You know we're too easy Easy Easy

Well I love the way we communicate
Your eyes focus on my funny lip shape
Let's hear what you think of me now
But baby don't look up
The sky is falling
Your mother shows up in a nasty dress
It's your turn now to stand where I stand
Everybody lookin' at you here
Take hold of my hand
Yeah I can hear them

But what if I'm a mermaid
In these jeans of his
With her name still on it
Hey but I don't care
Cause sometimes
I said sometimes
I hear my voice [x3]

And it's been here
Silent All These Years
I've been here
Silent All These Years


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29 Aug 2008, 9:47 am

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29 Aug 2008, 5:31 pm

Are you able to impartially analyze things as well as before you started taking the drugs?



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30 Aug 2008, 11:44 am

Coadunate wrote:
Are you able to impartially analyze things as well as before you started taking the drugs?


no



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30 Aug 2008, 12:04 pm

NTs actually feel this effect too. It's not turning you NT; it's clouding your thinking and sapping your emotion. Talk to your doctor immediately.


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30 Aug 2008, 12:07 pm

Aurore wrote:
NTs actually feel this effect too. It's not turning you NT; it's clouding your thinking and sapping your emotion. Talk to your doctor immediately.


well i have quit psyche meds for good, there is not much my md can do, and my naturopath has pretty much given me everything there is.



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30 Aug 2008, 12:18 pm

nightbender wrote:
Aurore wrote:
NTs actually feel this effect too. It's not turning you NT; it's clouding your thinking and sapping your emotion. Talk to your doctor immediately.


well i have quit psyche meds for good, there is not much my md can do, and my naturopath has pretty much given me everything there is.


Good - at least you're no longer taking the bad stuff. I know it can be necessary sometimes but it can really mess you up. Hopefully in a few months your brain chemistry will even out again in its Aspieness, that happens sometimes, it takes a long time for things to get out of your system all the way.


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