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16 Oct 2008, 5:20 am

I almost got escorted to the police station to spend the night in the cells. But because I kept on repeating that I had Asperger's syndrome and that I didn't expect the police to understand but it made it really difficult to make friends, that was why I had been writing graffiti on walls such as "I need friends" accompanied by a sad face.

I got swore at and treated nastily for a while by the one police officer. Afterwards when they deciced not to take me to the station after threatening to do so and convincing me they were going to, the abusive police officer was smirking at me, and told me to go out there and make friends and influence people.



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16 Oct 2008, 6:56 am

I spent a few nights in jail.

I'm from chicago but had been living in tucson for a few years. When I moved down I registered my car and got a new license in Arizona but forgot one thing. In illinois you have to have your car's emissions tested every few years for pollutants, you get a reminder in the mail letting you know when. The system that checks your car for emissions is completely separate from the license system and I didnt know I was suppose to contact them to inform them that my car was no longer registered within the state after I changed it with the DMV.

Notice after notice came to my mom's house but she threw them all away thinking they were garbage as I hadnt lived in the state for a few years. I was actually in the middle of driving cross country when I got pulled over for speeding in Nebraska, and was arrested because my drivers license was suspended.

Surprisingly I didnt panic at all, I had no clue what so ever why my license was suspended. I knew there had to be something logical to it.

What made things so bad was I was a thousand miles away from the closest person I knew haha. After a few phone calls with my mom she figured it out as she had a recent reminder for her car's emissions and saw on the back there is a little tear off post card to send it that says "please send this in if your car is no longer registered to your name or no longer registered in this state."

Now what came into me having to spend a few days is a not so amusing story. It was a friday afternoon when I got arrested, of course they have no ATM machine at the police station and wont let you just write a check for the bail, which was just $250. But they were set up to take Western Union so I had my mom do that. She WU the money that night, they told me since it was done post 8pm they could not retrieve it so I would have to wait until the morning. That morning they told me it had never been done and I had to contact the person sending it to confirm it and redo it. It took them about 10 hours to get back to me with the answer that "oh, she sent it to your name, not the county police department like she was told." I called my mom back (luckily they had a pay phone in the cell, how convenient) and she told me she sent it to the write name and had the receipt of it. I informed the people in the station (and this was all done through a sophisticated system where you yell out the front of your cell loud enough so they can hear you, and they respond back through a speaker system in the cell similar to the ones they had in grade school classrooms) that it was sent to the write information and I was told I would have to wait again until the next morning because it was too late to retrieve it. I was told sunday morning everything was fine and I was released.

The car impound lot was not open on sundays so I could not get my car out. Mom came to rescue again as she is luckily a secretary who does travel plans all the time so she was able to book a room for me at a holiday inn just a few blocks from the jail. I went back to the impound lot (and luckily the jail, impound and holiday inn were all within about a half mile of each other) on monday and I was informed the police notified them that I was arrested on a suspended license so they could not release my car to someone without a valid license, and I was not even allowed to go get anything out of it like a freagin change of clothes because too many people will go take the important stuff and leave the car forever.

So my sister came to the rescue. Luckily she is like me and loves to drive cross country so took it as an opportunity to do so. She drove out tuesday, we went in, she drove it off and down the street a block where she parked, and off I went back home. My mom was yelling at me on the phone to just go to a local store and give someone $20 to drive the car off for me, i dont think she realized how utterly impossible that would be for me to do. Let alone that I was in a town of maybe a few thousand people where surely everyone knows everyone and would not be easily fooled by me coming in after being denied once with someone w/a local license. AND that I was very clearly in meth-center USA and not just going to hand my keys over to some random stranger at a 7/11.

I later informed a friend of mine of the situation and he laughed at me saying "dude, dont you know that they'll give you a speeding ticket for going 3mph over the limit in nebraska?"

And I simply told him "no, no one ever told me that"



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16 Oct 2008, 7:20 am

willa wrote:
I spent a few nights in jail.

I'm from chicago but had been living in tucson for a few years. When I moved down I registered my car and got a new license in Arizona but forgot one thing. In illinois you have to have your car's emissions tested every few years for pollutants, you get a reminder in the mail letting you know when. The system that checks your car for emissions is completely separate from the license system and I didnt know I was suppose to contact them to inform them that my car was no longer registered within the state after I changed it with the DMV.

Notice after notice came to my mom's house but she threw them all away thinking they were garbage as I hadnt lived in the state for a few years. I was actually in the middle of driving cross country when I got pulled over for speeding in Nebraska, and was arrested because my drivers license was suspended.

Surprisingly I didnt panic at all, I had no clue what so ever why my license was suspended. I knew there had to be something logical to it.

What made things so bad was I was a thousand miles away from the closest person I knew haha. After a few phone calls with my mom she figured it out as she had a recent reminder for her car's emissions and saw on the back there is a little tear off post card to send it that says "please send this in if your car is no longer registered to your name or no longer registered in this state."

Now what came into me having to spend a few days is a not so amusing story. It was a friday afternoon when I got arrested, of course they have no ATM machine at the police station and wont let you just write a check for the bail, which was just $250. But they were set up to take Western Union so I had my mom do that. She WU the money that night, they told me since it was done post 8pm they could not retrieve it so I would have to wait until the morning. That morning they told me it had never been done and I had to contact the person sending it to confirm it and redo it. It took them about 10 hours to get back to me with the answer that "oh, she sent it to your name, not the county police department like she was told." I called my mom back (luckily they had a pay phone in the cell, how convenient) and she told me she sent it to the write name and had the receipt of it. I informed the people in the station (and this was all done through a sophisticated system where you yell out the front of your cell loud enough so they can hear you, and they respond back through a speaker system in the cell similar to the ones they had in grade school classrooms) that it was sent to the write information and I was told I would have to wait again until the next morning because it was too late to retrieve it. I was told sunday morning everything was fine and I was released.

The car impound lot was not open on sundays so I could not get my car out. Mom came to rescue again as she is luckily a secretary who does travel plans all the time so she was able to book a room for me at a holiday inn just a few blocks from the jail. I went back to the impound lot (and luckily the jail, impound and holiday inn were all within about a half mile of each other) on monday and I was informed the police notified them that I was arrested on a suspended license so they could not release my car to someone without a valid license, and I was not even allowed to go get anything out of it like a freagin change of clothes because too many people will go take the important stuff and leave the car forever.

So my sister came to the rescue. Luckily she is like me and loves to drive cross country so took it as an opportunity to do so. She drove out tuesday, we went in, she drove it off and down the street a block where she parked, and off I went back home. My mom was yelling at me on the phone to just go to a local store and give someone $20 to drive the car off for me, i dont think she realized how utterly impossible that would be for me to do. Let alone that I was in a town of maybe a few thousand people where surely everyone knows everyone and would not be easily fooled by me coming in after being denied once with someone w/a local license. AND that I was very clearly in meth-center USA and not just going to hand my keys over to some random stranger at a 7/11.

I later informed a friend of mine of the situation and he laughed at me saying "dude, dont you know that they'll give you a speeding ticket for going 3mph over the limit in nebraska?"

And I simply told him "no, no one ever told me that"


WOW after hearing that I feel really sorry for you >.<. I hate it when all the wrong stuff happens at the wrong time.



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16 Oct 2008, 1:28 pm

I've sometimes wondered how I would get along in prison, even though it's unlikely, me being a boringly law-abiding citizen.

In some ways I think I would do pretty well: I lived alone for a long time, so could stand solitary; I'm good at doing what I'm told and following orderts to the letter and not having to use any initiative.

But I know it wouldn't be that easy. Jails are all about power relationshops between inmates, and I wouldn't last 5 seconds - as soon as someone up the hierarchy clocked I was shy, introverted, different, 'easy', then they'd take full advantage and try and dominate or bully me. I'm usleless at standing up for myself.

Prison may be an occupational hazard for some people, but for most, and especially for aspies, I'd imagine it's hell, and perhaps that's how it's supposed to be.



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16 Oct 2008, 3:09 pm

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I'm extremely unlikely to get arrested. The mere thought of breaking the rules seriously makes my brain hurt.


8O Weird.

I'd probably get arrested for assaulting the therapists. :lol:



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16 Oct 2008, 6:30 pm

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Has anyone been held in custody, or arrested by cops? I know no one will probably want to admit, but I was wondereing of the consequences.

Is there any guidance or social workers in the police corps or in the jails who would pick it up and treat Autistic people with care, or has there been any training whatsoever for police or wardens???

I think this is important to find out and if it doesn't exist we had better start getting the message out.

am autie and not aspie [the title says jail and aspies,and post says autistic-couldnt work out if only wanted aspies to answer] and have had a lot of experience with greater manchester police [not for crime reasons].
am have been found and took home by them twice before,for running away from [a residential] home.
because am a care home resident and classed as a vulnerable adult,the police will treat it as an emergency,though the first time am was found,it was a neighbour on the street was on who found am first,he knew am was autistic,knew the home am was from and wanted to stay with am but had to go inside to phone police.
had had meltdowns and ran away from home due to night staff changes,when the police got to am [was sat on dark no way out type road,rocking behind a transit and lining up rocks/stones] they could have assumed was some drunk hoodie wearing teenager [am always assumed to be a child from looks] waiting to rob something from a house,but they treated am with respect,didnt react to any behaviors or rocking,and they then got a call in from one of the service managers giving them all the details so they persuaded am to come home with them.
they seemed to understand,and care-am think they may have training in autism but have no idea,am know they do have disability awareness training.
other times,they will help staff when am have meltdowns,self injure or seizures in the street-they treat am with respect in those situations also,and will do anything to help-they havent roughly treated am,have been restrained by one before but only arm restraint to make sure did not hurt self,whilst he was taking am back.


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16 Oct 2008, 9:34 pm

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Wow your story sounds very interesting glad you survived it ok and it wasnt too bad. Jail for DUI is tough the US justice system is tough here unless you do it repeatedly, have a very high DUI reading (legal BAC is .05 here) or hurt someone you wont go to jail just lose your licence and get a fine. As a probationary driver (got my license in August) I have to have .00 BAC until August 29th 2011. I dont drink so it is ok. A lot of aspies end up in trouble partially due to their condition but it seems you handled it pretty well


Here in the US, the legal BAC for individuals over 21 years of age is 0.080. For minors, (those persons who have not reached 21 years of age), the legal BAC is 0.020. The night I got arrested for DUI, I blew a 0.227 and a 0.224, (three times the legal limit). License was suspended for 90 days, and I had to get an alcohol evaluation, (passed it with ease), complete the A/DIS class, and am required to have an ignition interlock device installed in my vehicle for 1 calendar year. Even under court-ordered probation, (2 years, [1 year supervised, 1 year unsupervised]), the legal BAC for me, (as an alcohol offender), is 0.025. For the first year of probation, I am prohibited from consuming alcohol. After that, I can get as intoxicated as I like, I am just prohibited from driving with a BAC of 0.025 or above, (for my body weight, that essentially means no driving w/i 24 hours of drinking). So when I can legally drink again, I'll only be able to on Friday nights, and Saturdays, (all day).


Yeah for us it is kinda the same but slightly different because our drinking age is 18 and driving age 17 or 18 depending on the state. In my state Victoria it is 18 but most wait to get their licence until 20s. We have .00 BAC for all new drivers because you are still inexperienced weather you are 18 or 28 as I am. I have only had my probationary licence since August 29th (seven weeks) so that is not long. As I have said on other posts we also have other restrictions for new drivers as well including only driving automatics cars, no high powered cars and displaying P plates.



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16 Oct 2008, 10:41 pm

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cops are pretty nice to ppl with autism now a days u just tell em u got autism an ull get special treatment tey might just send u to ur own cell or something


I think it's really sh***y that some people will use their disability to get special treatment when they don't need it. When people deliberately use thier AS, autism, or whatever they have as a crutch, it really makes the rest of us look like weak slackers. If they didn't crack you with the nightstick a couple times as Drakilor suspected, they should have.


Incarceration is an exception to being treated equally because inmates who are seen as weak will be singled out for abuse. Not only is jail/prison inherently dangerous simply because of what it is but also there is nowhere to run if you are abused. And definitely autism/aspergers will show up as a weakness when you are in that type of environment.


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17 Oct 2008, 4:51 pm

i think cops (aussie cops) are really getting smarter, they are much better trained and i have caught on to their phsycology, i think i would get too guilty if i was forced to do a "major" crime, so hopefully i won't get framed lol