I should have been born male.
SteelMaiden wrote:
Shastania wrote:
Everything that SteelMaden has just said, I agree with 100% for I feel exactly the same way.
Why, only earlier today, I told my mother that were it not for the fact I'd like to start a family sometime in the not-too-distent future, I'd get a full hysterectomy as I hated the anaemia, mood swings and general suckiness of getting periods.
That aside, I too have expressed apprehension over expectations of being "feminine".
When I wear a dress or make-up or when I have to shave my legs in order to wear said dress, I feel as though I am perpetuating a lie- "This is not who I am" in other words. I feel like a child playing dress up in their mother's clothing box and it makes me very uncomfortable to wear stereotypical "woman" clothing.
Granted, in the last number of years, I've been trying to make an effort to embrace the gender I was born into but it hasn't been easy.
When I first cut my hair short (going from shoulder lenght to a pixie crop), my brother called me a "dyke" and told me I looked like a man.
My mother sometimes expresses passive-aggressive annoyance and disappointment over the fact that I'm not GIRLY but she's come to terms with the fact that I am a "tomboy".
I once told her I was bisexual when I was 15 and she staunchly said: "No, you're not bisexual. It's just a phase." and left it like that. Nowadays, I realise I am androynous and bi-curious though I sometimes lean towards my own gender.
Yet despite this, I also like men. Talk about confusion!
Even so, there is nothing wrong in being androynous. The important factor is that you are happy, healthy and full of life. People object because maybe they can't understand or they are under the pretense of working on outdated gender-specific stereotypes but that is their opinion and it is not neccessarily the right one.
Live your life how YOU and YOU ALONE want to live it. After all, it's YOUR life.
Why, only earlier today, I told my mother that were it not for the fact I'd like to start a family sometime in the not-too-distent future, I'd get a full hysterectomy as I hated the anaemia, mood swings and general suckiness of getting periods.
That aside, I too have expressed apprehension over expectations of being "feminine".
When I wear a dress or make-up or when I have to shave my legs in order to wear said dress, I feel as though I am perpetuating a lie- "This is not who I am" in other words. I feel like a child playing dress up in their mother's clothing box and it makes me very uncomfortable to wear stereotypical "woman" clothing.
Granted, in the last number of years, I've been trying to make an effort to embrace the gender I was born into but it hasn't been easy.
When I first cut my hair short (going from shoulder lenght to a pixie crop), my brother called me a "dyke" and told me I looked like a man.
My mother sometimes expresses passive-aggressive annoyance and disappointment over the fact that I'm not GIRLY but she's come to terms with the fact that I am a "tomboy".
I once told her I was bisexual when I was 15 and she staunchly said: "No, you're not bisexual. It's just a phase." and left it like that. Nowadays, I realise I am androynous and bi-curious though I sometimes lean towards my own gender.
Yet despite this, I also like men. Talk about confusion!
Even so, there is nothing wrong in being androynous. The important factor is that you are happy, healthy and full of life. People object because maybe they can't understand or they are under the pretense of working on outdated gender-specific stereotypes but that is their opinion and it is not neccessarily the right one.
Live your life how YOU and YOU ALONE want to live it. After all, it's YOUR life.
I am going to university soon, so I will be away from the wrath of my Mother trying to make me a "woman" as she puts it.
I don't want to have children, ever, I hate children, so I am strongly considering to go to my GP and beg for a full hysterectomy. Only problem is that she will say "no" as she will think its my mental illness talking. So I would have to go private and I can't afford that. I hate periods, so damn uncomfortable. I once stopped having periods for a year because of some medication I was taking, and I loved it. Now I wish my current medication would raise my prolactin levels and cause me to stop having periods again.
DON'T get a full hysterectomy! You WILL hate it. They DO make drugs that can give you the benefits without the problems.
SteelMaiden wrote:
I actually like my hair long, but then I think boys with long hair look better for some reason.
My Mother may never come to terms with the fact that I am a tomboy, but I don't care as I'm leaving home for 8 weeks!
My Mother tells me that "muscles are not feminine" and that "skinny legs are feminine". I have very muscular legs (if you cut my thigh, you would see a layer of skin and a miniscule amount of fat, and then a thick layer of pure muscle surrounding the bone) and when I go to uni and get access to the gym, I will start lifting heavy weights. I can do 60 press-ups on one leg.
My Mother may never come to terms with the fact that I am a tomboy, but I don't care as I'm leaving home for 8 weeks!
My Mother tells me that "muscles are not feminine" and that "skinny legs are feminine". I have very muscular legs (if you cut my thigh, you would see a layer of skin and a miniscule amount of fat, and then a thick layer of pure muscle surrounding the bone) and when I go to uni and get access to the gym, I will start lifting heavy weights. I can do 60 press-ups on one leg.
Just out of curiousity, how much weight?
And SOME muscle IS feminine. Women USUALLY have smoother muscle that is more feminine anyway. Of course, it can be more prominent on the legs.
2ukenkerl wrote:
DON'T get a full hysterectomy! You WILL hate it. They DO make drugs that can give you the benefits without the problems.
Just out of curiousity, how much weight?
And SOME muscle IS feminine. Women USUALLY have smoother muscle that is more feminine anyway. Of course, it can be more prominent on the legs.
Just out of curiousity, how much weight?
And SOME muscle IS feminine. Women USUALLY have smoother muscle that is more feminine anyway. Of course, it can be more prominent on the legs.
Ok I won't get a hysterectomy. I'll just hope that my antipsychotic meds will stop my periods again like they did last year.
How much weight? Well I can benchpress 50kg now, but I want to go up to 70kg.
I can't say much about my muscles, I've only been running on the streets. I haven't been to a gym since May, when I was at school. When I go to uni on October 4th, there will be a gym in my college, which I will use to exhaustion.
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SteelMaiden wrote:
I just hate the way femininity is defined. I am all against femininity, I want to have muscles, I want to run knee-deep in mud, I don't want to go bloody clothes/shoe shoppping (my absolute nightmare).
You know, this rings true with me EXACTLY but for me it's the opposite. I hate the way masculinity is defined. Do you really think that being a cocky, cold-blooded, aggressive slob is that much more appealing than being a dainty, weak, but beautiful princess? I mean look at how men are portrayed in commercials... men are almost always portrayed as the stereotypically barbaric, football-watching, beer-drinking fashion. Maybe it's just because I watch a lot of ESPN but I think your typical portrayal of men is just as offensive as the portrayal of women as dainty housewives.
I really don't think either of us is transgendered. I think we have the exact same problem which is that we both have a lot of characteristics of the opposite gender (for you, valuing strength and not being particularly into fashion, etc. and for me, sensitivity, enjoyment of long conversations and emotional connections with people) and thus we are rebelling against our natural (I realize some people will take issue with that term) inborn sexes. The pressure on you to be dainty and beautiful and all of that is just like the pressure on me to be aggressive and never to cry. The stereotypical value of a woman is in her beauty and elegance and the stereotypical value of a man is his strength, aggression, and intelligence. It's not that I don't value strength, assertiveness, and intelligence - in fact, quite the opposite - it's that I resent that there are those who, consciously or subconsciously, lead me to believe that if I don't strengthen those virtues and those virtues alone then I am somehow defying my gender.
I think both of us need to realize that we are moving into a more progressive time when it comes to gender. People are beginning to realize that we are not defined by our genders. I honestly think the VAST majority of gender stereotyping is societal. I mean, think about it... in Greek times, men were valued as truly beautiful creatures. Most statues of Greek men that I have seen portray them not as heathen beasts but as truly gorgeous aesthetic bodies. Imagine if men made more of an effort to shave and be elegant in that way, and yet women stopped shaving their legs and wore exclusively pants and sneakers. Right there, a HUGE percent of the visually obvious gender roles that bombard us all day every day would disappear.
People have hypothesized that Asperger's is a "hyper male" brain. Even if this isn't true, the fact that someone would hypothesize this is telling. People think of men as socially inept, passionate about technology, math and "objective" things like that while being hopeless when it comes to feelings. But what's hilarious is that there are female aspies who display all of these characteristics. Similarly, there are men who are value beauty in themselves and are very nurturing and in tune with their feelings and emotions. The point being, even if there are some TENDENCIES when it comes to men and women, there are PLENTY of people who fly right in the face of those stereotypes.
In conclusion, I have determined that, while there are some things I will probably never fully get over about being a man (the fact that I am not as beautiful as a woman and the fact that I can never have children being the biggest two), I'm sure that if I were a woman I would be really upset about the fact that I am not supposed to be strong or intelligent. I have concluded that for the most part I am rebelling against what I have not because it fits me so poorly but because there is always something to rebel against. I have tried over the last six months to become less obsessed with the gender roles that are determined in large part by society and will never perfectly define anyone, especially not someone as complex as I am. I would suggest you follow a similar train of thought to alleviate some of your worries.
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ButchCoolidge wrote:
Interestingly, I have had the opposite experience - that of wishing I had been born female at times. But, I'm sure if I were female I would have some of the same feelings in the opposite direction. Think about all of the wonderful things that come with being a woman... the biggest by far is that you get to bear children. This is something I will never be able to experience, and it is one of the greatest experiences, if not the greatest, possible for a sentient being.
WOW! I can understand, and agree with much of what you said, but you are overly optimistic about having kids. SOME women have said THEMSELVES that they easily just pop them out, but it appears that most DO have some amount of pain, and some make it sound like the worst thing ever.
And women DO have the final say whether a kid will be carried to term, and have the most direct impact on the health of the child.
