ADHD is 100% psychiatric fraud

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It's about severity and one's ability to adapt to society. A personality doesn't affect much, as personality doesn't interfere with one's school, work, and/or social interaction in a qualitative and severe manner compared to one's peers, which means that people that have a disorder in these things will fail most times without help. People who're shy can still form relationships in the same way as the next person with or without help, whereas the person with AS will most likely fail time after time (even when they do have help).

Asthma affects one's ability to run, for example; ADHD affects one's ability to concentrate.

IMO ADHD can/is somewhat over diagnosed. I have meet kids that were diagnosed ADHD and were really just normal kids who were a little move hyper then the rest. That being said, I've also meet kids who really where ADHD. As in when marked "on "or "off " task every minute on the minute for so minutes, these kids would consistently score 3-5, min "on" where their classmates would routinely get 15-18 min "on',. These kids obviously had issues stemming from it. Saying ADHD doesn't exist really just shows a lack of experience with diverse children.

Is it over diagnosed? Yea, probably. Before you go making your outrageous claims, go spend tine with a kid like the aforementioned one and then tell me ADHD doesn't exist.

For someone who has ADD, caffeine would calm them down, while it might keep someone else up all night. Ritalin and other ADD drugs are the same thing, stimulants for those who don't have the disorder, yet it can calm down those with ADD long enough so they can concentrate in school or on the job. That's why people get high on Ritalin, they don't have ADD or ADHD, so it causes that reaction.

You don't have to watch the whole video to know it's worthless. The guy presenting it (Fred Baughmann, MD, paed. neurologist) is a complete a-hole. He's an old-school neurologist who is completely biased against the concept of psychiatric illnesses. Not all illnesses have lab tests available as a part of the diagnostic process. This does not mean that the illness does not exist. He's quoting stuff from an article from Time - a news magazine, not a medical journal, and that too from 1994. That was 14 years ago, making it hopelessly outdated.

However, the point he raises about the suitability of using Ritalin to treat ADHD is valid.

Have you even watched the videos or some parts of it before talking?

I am not one who's claiming that, neurologists did , yes it was on 1998 ....but till now there's no convincing counter-argument from psychologists could beat it. Those neurologists have offered many physical and scientific evidences that there's no organic or neurological abnormality, what the psychologists offered in return? MRI scans done on patients on stimulants?? ha! The ways of diagnosing haven't been changed that much since then.

Each child is different, I met kids who are not hyperactive , other who are hyperactive ...others who are very hyperactive.
There were kids in my school who could barely sit on a chair for 3 to 5 min yet they did well, they took no stimulant drug.

Maybe those kids are just naturally too hyperactive above the 'social' norm? Maybe they are eating too much sugar?






Bad comparison , Asthma is caused by a real organic abnormality , usually infection in the airways. While nothing organic abnormality has yet been proven for ADHD.

And even if ADHD does exist.... let's suppose that it does exist yet the current science couldn't determine its organic cause yet then on what basis those stimulant drugs are being prescribed by the psychiatrists? On successive rat lab experiences?

LePetitPrince, I'm wondering why you choose the subject heading you did. The arguments in this thread supporting the position that ADHD is bogus refute rather than agree with the idea that ADHD is a fraud. Yes, I realize that's the heading on the video at the website, but that doesn't mean you have to use it rather than coming up with a subject heading that reflects legitimate criticisms against the ADHD diagnosis.

I don't believe it is a fraud, but Ritalin is and its producers are

No, it's a good comparison as both are science, and both are physical disorders that manifest as physical symptoms. Psychology looks for patterns, and tries to reproduce them; other fields do the same thing. It's just that what psychology looks for manifests as behaviour (as does the other sciences), and the underlying patterns [in the brain] are far harder to quanitfy compared to other fields [as the brain is far more complex]; neuopsychology looks for these underlying patterns, and they're getting there.

If drugs are shown to help how the behaviour manifests, just as drugs do for asthma, and the positives of the medication outweigh the negatives (you'll note that the symbol of medicine is a snake wrapped around a sword), it makes sense to prescribe it if it'll help; this is the whole point of medication. The same thing for immunizations.

Say it is a fraud. Now what? You still have a lot of kids who aren't doing good in school, and who will lead difficult lives growing up, which will make adulthood fun. If there is a drug that can help a child focus, gain social abilities, and organize themselves, regardless of the "fraud" ADHD/ADD might be, should the good this drug does be ignored? There's a choice to be made, and regardless of how "terrible" the drugs might be, people have the right to weigh the benefit against the harm.

And I ain't watching that video. A person who starts a position with an opinion as forceful and blatant as that obviously has a hard time believing their own theory. Why not present the facts and let the opinions form instead of trying to force them?

aspies should no tbe guinea pigs for a greedy pharmaco industry...miilions of kids get hooked on a drug which is not safe enough, not too mention that kids have not had a proper conclusive diagnosis. That's USA, England does not do that

LePetitPrince:

Before writing that post, I had not looked at the video. Now that I have, my opinion remains the same.

Have you personally meet anyone with ADHD, particularly a kid? It seems as though you seem to take the opinions of a article over the opinions of those with first hand experience.

In the end the point is moot. Judging from your posts I you are extremely emotionally invested in the topic. As such, there is nothing I can do to change your opinion.