How do Aspergeans get misdiagnosed with Schizophrenia?

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As for your many diagnoses, a few of which sound like they should not be a separate diagnosis, but a symptom or effect of a base diagnosis.

Correct me if I am wrong but I see conflictions with APD and ASD

APD:
"They are so preoccupied with monitoring themselves and others that producing fluent speech is difficult."

That just sounds like someone with aspergers and their problems with small talk for example,
an NT will make a comment about the snowy weather, the aspergers person doesn't know how to respond they think "well nice observation, I can see its snowing" but thats not a socially acceptable response, so they might not know how to respond right away hence "fluent speech is difficult" and they begin wondering why people talk like that and how come they don't think the same way so they constantly pick apart peoples thought process including their own trying to find an answer "preoccupied with monitoring themselves and others "
So... "They are so preoccupied with monitoring themselves and others that producing fluent speech is difficult." sounds like it could be a common aspergers trait and not a seperate disorder. Perhaps I am wrong though. I guess maybe the ASD is the cause, and the APD could be the effect it has?

That happened to me. Think that may have been one of the reasons I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Have never heard voices that noone else could hear. "Do you hear voices?" is a stupid question. If I didn't hear a voice I wouldn't have given an answer at all since there would have been no question asked. Unless the doctor asked me in writing, which he didn't.

Come on, but if you tell the psychologist that you are planning WWIII, and don't bother to explain the nature of your job with the Air Force, you are begging her to take you for a lunatic.

Actually I don't agree with the APD dx either. Matter of fact my main psychologist doesn't either. It's kinda like that old saying "having too many cooks in the kitchen" well I have diagnosis from a neuropsyh and a psych both phD's and they don't agree with one another. I'm more prone to agree with my main psych who I have seen on a weekly basis she said the APD dx was absurd because avoidance is just a manifestation of both Aspergers and PTSD. Now the PTSD is an accurate dx and not part of my Aspieness though it might be for some folks. I have PTSD as a combination of surviving 3 accidents, from being abused and neglected as a child and also being raped 11 yrs ago.

The mathematics disorder I just chuckled at which pissed of the neuropsych when she read off her diagnoses. I mean its stupid that if you suck at math they have a diagnosis for that now. They don't have a diagnosis for people that suck at history or home economics class.

I'm pretty sure I would have understood that question and answered the way they wanted me to anyway... but my neurologist was pretty good in that regard anyway, he asked "do you ever hear things (not voices) that others can't hear". The question was very well phrased, very specifically designed to produce a particular response. And in spite of my difficulty reading people, I noticed that when he asked that question, his demeanor changed significantly to give the question some emphasis. It made me chuckle a bit actually.

Its not so much that they suck at the subject, its more that their brain some how does incorrect calculations that they think to be true, like 1-1= 1 cause you took one from one so you still have one left (thats not actually an example...but)

Anyways I am not so sure I agree with most psychologist's whose job is to preform diagnoses, typically I am more likely to agree with a psychologist who thinks because they like to (for writing books maybe) but not for a job.

If you are true to your self, look at everything, don't expect to gain advantage (but rather personal knowledge about your self) and are not afraid of diagnosing your self with something "bad" then I think the best person to diagnose you is you.

I don't think he asked a very good question. There are plenty of people with keen hearing that "hear things others can't hear". It doesn't mean they have schizophrenia though.

When I was younger they tested my hearing and were astounded I could hear high pitched sounds that no one else could here. The doctor said I was in the "cat hearing range" though I seriously doubt that. Though years later I end up needing hearing aids so go figure. But anyway I think that's a bad way he phrased that question.

Schizophrenia spectrum disorders
Schizophrenia (DSM–IV)

Schizophrenia is a disorder in which psychotic symptoms (delusions or hallucinations), thought disorder and so called ‘negative symptoms' cause social and/or occupational dysfunction over time. Because individuals with Asperger syndrome have normal cognitive ability, restrictive behaviours and impairments in social interaction and communication can be misinterpreted as evidence of schizophrenia. People with Asperger syndrome have difficulty understanding the subtleties of social behaviour, but this should not be confused with evidence of psychotic disorder. In a clinical setting, asking individuals with Asperger syndrome whether they hear voices may induce a positive response, and they might concur that they hear voices "when people aren't there", but they may be refering to the voices of people in an adjacent room. Deficiencies in concrete thinking and in understanding how other minds think may cause patients with Asperger syndrome to misinterpret what is said to them, and they might as a result be labelled paranoid. Misinterpreting social contacts can also lead to inappropriate emotional responses, contributing to this impression. Persons with Asperger syndrome sometimes speak their thoughts out loud, which again can be misinterpreted by a psychiatrist.

Language abnormalities associated with autistic spectrum disorders include substitutions, literalness, problems with prosody, staccato speech and monotonous speech that is excessively pedantic and focused on details or obsessive questions. A tendency to direct the conversation towards obsessions could easily be mistaken for evidence of associative loosening. A comparison of thought disorder and affective flattening in patients with autism and with schizophrenia found that they did not differ in terms of affective flattening, and that adult patients with autism showed poverty of speech, poverty of content and perseveration (Ramsey et al, 1986). The autism group showed significantly less derailment and illogicality, suggesting that they would be unlikely to meet DSM or ICD criteria for thought disorder in schizophrenia.

Social and communication deficits can be interpreted as evidence of negative symptomatology, so it is important when assessing functioning to establish premorbid ability. These conditions obviously differ in age at onset, developmental history and mental state examination. In DSM–IV, pervasive developmental disorder is an exclusion condition for schizophrenia and it should be suspected in atypical or non-responsive cases. Schizophrenia can co-occur in autistic spectrum disorders, but the additional diagnosis is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are present for at least 1 month (less with treatment). Despite an absence of epidemiological studies of psychiatric comorbidity in autistic spectrum disorders, it has been suggested that delusions or auditory hallucinations may be more common than in the general population, but the prevalence of schizophrenia (at 0.6 %) is comparable to general population levels.

Bleuler (1911), founder of the modern concept of schizophrenia, described four primary symptoms necessary for the disorder (the four As): ambivalence, loosening of associations, disturbance of affect and autism, which he defined as dependence on an internal unrealistic world. Both he and Kraepelin (1919) defined subgroups with social withdrawal and affective flattening, ‘oddness' and ‘eccentricity', being timid with a narrow circle of interests and cold relations to companions, and lacking sympathy or attachment. From these descriptions the concept of simple schizophrenia, considered by some to be a diagnostic waste-basket, entered the lexicon. The symptoms described are equally applicable to autistic spectrum disorders, and the subtype ‘simple schizophrenia' has been removed from DSM–IV. Its retention in ICD–10 is a likely source of diagnostic confusion.

But flat effect is not exclusive to Aspergers and Schizophrenia. Its also considered a symptom of Severe Depression and Frontal Lobe Brain Damage.

Perhaps there is an overlap with some as I recently saw a study that claimed there is a connection to having autistic children and the parent having a mental disorder. So if the parent was schizo the child might be influenced into thinking there are voices that exist no one else can hear but not actually hear them.

I've often noticed psychs tend to be disappointed if you say no you don't hear voices because I think they find people with Schizo and Multiple Personality more intriquing to work with.

They found it frustrating, because you can't really do too much directly to treat schizophrenia (beyond medication, which psychologists don't prescribe).

But flat effect is not exclusive to Aspergers and Schizophrenia. Its also considered a symptom of Severe Depression and Frontal Lobe Brain Damage.

Perhaps there is an overlap with some as I recently saw a study that claimed there is a connection to having autistic children and the parent having a mental disorder. So if the parent was schizo the child might be influenced into thinking there are voices that exist no one else can hear but not actually hear them.