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this is legal in Australia?

Well, does it really matter why he is cruel to the cat??? Ok, he might want to get more attention. Almost all children want to get more attention, but very few of them acheive it by torchering animals.
Yes, I think by the age of three a kid MUST know that ears are ears and not fur. I think parents can show to a kid that separating an ear from your head - is a painful procedure, if they yet do not know that. I do not call for violence, but there are some things that children should know. I am against violence, when violence is just a burst of anger. But I think children must receive phisical punishment if parents can use it as a consistent tool.
I was surprised by the words "inappropriate" used in the OP. You know, spitting at table may be inappropriate. But cutting animals ears is a horrifying thing to do. And I do not understand why a mother should stay perfectly calm when she sees what a horrible thing is going on.
no, may be you should not loose your self control , but you ought to show to a child how very AWFUL you feel about what he is doing. Well, at least you should not pretend to be calm and absolutely untouched by that.
Yes, it is not quite clear why the kid puts the cat into cabinets and locks him now and then. Obviously not because he finds it makes sence to isolate it... I do not see what would be any other purpose then the pleasure of seeing the pet's suffering. Frankly, what else can it give to him?
I think the kid is spoiled. I do not think that there is domestic violence going on. On the contrary - the kid would not have done that if he feared phisical punishment. I think what he knows, this kid - is that he can do ANYTHING. And he has no fears. He enjoys torturing anymals - that is a fact and given he has not fear of punishment - he might very well cut that cat's ears and tail one day.

How can you even figure something like that? It's not probable at all.

I think it's a good idea to call around and try to seek help...but you can also try to talk to him yourself (I bet you tried that though, eh?). Hope everything works out

Actually this reminds me of a story about myself that I'm still ashamed of to this day. My mom would sometimes hit me when I got into trouble or whatever. No biggie. One day though, I raised my hand as if I was going to strike my grandmother's dog. The dog, Jetta, lowered her head in fear (I found out later she was abused by her previous owner). I was curious about this behavior, because it seemed like something I would do. She lifted her head, I raised my hand once more, and she did the same thing. When I finally understood, I pat her on the head and never did anything like that again.

Didn't make me a serial killer Perhaps your son is just as curious as I was. Ask him if he feels bad for nippin' the cat a bit.

Maybe not, but it sounds like it could yield positive results. But this kind of negative reinforcement should never cause lasting or significant physical harm. Spareth the rod ....

Well, yes it does matter. It can indicate a dangerous situation that must be acknowledged and not allowed to continue. Often, it is a symptom.
Three year old children imitate what is going on around them. Often, adults will abuse animals in domestic violence situations to intimidate other family members, to control them thru fear. It does happen. It's a serious problem. It has been noted that children who abuse animals are mimmicking what they have seen others doing.

I liked to take apart insects when I was little. I didn't see much difference between them and objects.

it's really quite sickening that people here call this kid a serial-killer in the making. shame on you guys.

They are not so evil, those serial killers. They are just curious, you know... they just love to watch the victim's convultions, interiour organs.. and so on.

I meant "does it really matter what he is trying to achieve by torchering the cat?"

Pffft, I don't think this kid is a serial killer in the making and it baffles me why some people would post that he is. I think it's an overreaction.

We all know what's right and it's our responsibility to teach kids to respect animals and if they are going to have a pet they have to take care of it and treat it well, but I do recall when I was a kid lots of boys were mean to cats. Not all, but many of them thought that part of being a boy included disliking cats. There was a double standard, dogs were cool, cats were not and it was okay to be mean to your sister's pet cat. I saw this many times when I visited friends and their families.
Are all these boys that were mean to cats now serial killers? You know, there isn't one that I knew then that's a serial killer now, nor murderer, for that matter. I don't know of anyone I grew up with turning into a serial killer. Actually, not ONE person from my school, from this town, is a serial killer, that I know of, that is. This is a good sized town, too.
The odds of someone you grew up with becoming a serial killer are pretty remote, right?

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To the OP: I know this thread got out of hand and I meant no harm in what I said, I just thought that you might see the alarmist tone of my original post and understand that something like this could be potentially harmful. Having studied up on serial killers and knowing that some did start out by harming animals, I only intended to be helpful to you. Add to that the fact that my best friend growing up is in prison for a mass murder and he was extremely cruel to his animals growing up, I just do not want you to have to worry about your son's future. Counseling may not be in order, but the least you could do would be to consult a professional and bring the topic up. I highly doubt there is a single person on this board - myself heavily included - who is truly trained to be giving advice. If you are on this board then you are likely no stranger to counseling and you do know how good it can be, if only to give your entire family peace of mind.

So, sorry if I offended you; I promise you that was never my intention.

ReallY? "Most"?
Sorry- not buying it.



As the OP hasn't even aluded to multiple events, this statement is WAY out of line. I think ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo has it right: He's only 3 for f u c k sake. However, suggesting family counseling is also way outta line.
What? Suddenly everyone is a frickin' psychologist?



Don't quit your day job.



This statement just sickens me beyond anything I have read onthis forum in the last 4 months. You should be deeply ashamed.

FrogGirl, I am so sorry how you've been treated through this thread. I think what we have all learned is that this forum is like any other on the web: NEVER post anything too personal, too revealing or too intimate. The f u c k-tards (see list above) will never pass up an opportunity to pass judgement on another person so long as they can walk away feeling better about themselves.

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Serial killers are evil. They're sick, but also evil.

I'd like you to read up on a man called Ed Gein. He was the real-life ghoul upon whom the fictitious ghoul Hannibal Lecter was based.

Believe me, I can almost understand the mind of a serial killer. But honestly, I think with a killer's curiosity comes fascination and enjoyment. I can understand your attack on me, but don't attack a 3 year old kid

Kids can be curious about the darndest thing. At least a serial killer understands that what he is doing is sick.

Some do, some don't.

This is just pathetic.

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well your responses here haven't been very substantial and I'd call them slightly rude too...