What things/lies did you use to believe due to AS?

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03 Feb 2009, 2:07 am

gawd, we all believe in social fairy tales don't we?



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03 Feb 2009, 3:04 am

It is very comforting to know that everyone on here was as clueless as me. :oops: I wonder how many times I made a complete fool of myself and didn't even realize it :lol:

besides believing many of the things that have already been mentioned, I use to believe that people (adults) were reasonable, or had reasoning abilities and were also doing their best as opposed to just pretending to do their best and taking credit for things they didn't actually do. I didn't think that people lied unless they had a logical reason to.. I thought that people were capable of being logical unless they appeared outright irrational, I thought that people were capable of considering the consequences of their actions and therefor could be trusted.

I didn't know that people believed that they were who they were pretending to be when playing a 'role'

I use to believe that nobody would intentionally hurt anyone.

I thought that my manipulative NT sister was the unusual one (and I thought her manipulation only involved getting my mom to buy her things, I thought I got blamed for everything because my mom wanted to believe my sister was perfect)

I thought that bad people were obviously bad (murderers etc) and that the rest of the bad people (sinners according to the prominent religion) did was smoke cigarettes, do drugs and drink alcohol, because I grew up in an area where people pretended to be kindhearted, giving, concerned about the welfare of others, happy and reasonable in other words people pulled off PERFECT really well, being a "good" person was considered the top of the pecking order, so except for the few people that were genuinely altruistic , people developed passive aggressive personalities and learned to get what they wanted through seemingly positive means.. Nice people still scare me :D :) :twisted: 8O :? :x :( :(

I use to believe that people were smarter and had a more functional intelligence than they actually do, I thought Doctors actually knew what they were doing and understood on a deep level the benefits and risks of what they were prescribing and/ or suggesting.

I thought that the powers that be had more respect and understanding of natural laws and nature in general.

I didn't know that people preferred to be manipulated or put together as opposed to direct conversation and freedom of choice to do as they wanted without being guilted into things, I thought that my Mother appreciated (and noticed) the fact that I didn't try to get anything from her that she didn't freely offer... guess that's why my normal sister is the only one she helps out and on holidays and birthdays she buys her 10 times as much as me and my brother.

I didn't know that people liked drama and arguing, I didn't know that when people complained or whined about things that they wanted to be pitied or praised, I thought pity was considered a bad thing, not a good thing and I didn't know that people considered praise a motivation.

I didn't know that people thought that I was cold and didn't have feeling just because I couldn't express them, I thought that people knew what I was doing for them without me having to tell them.

I thought the FDA, USDA, ADA etc actually cared about people instead of money, power and control



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03 Feb 2009, 3:18 am

That people didn't exist. I'm still trying to figure this one out, i.e., people are actually thinking and feeling animate creatures that scare me, rather than automatons [that scared me].

Nah, you all don't exist, 'cause you don't feel it to me. Feelings trump thought.



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03 Feb 2009, 5:53 am

I used to belive that people exchanged contact details because they actualy wanted to have contact with you again.



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03 Feb 2009, 6:17 am

I never realised that adults had parents. I thought I was only kids that had parents hahaha

More recently, when I was working (i quit a month or so ago) but a collegue joked and said we weren't going to get paid. I had sleepless nights thinking I wasn't going to get paid and what to do, who to speak to etc... and someone at college laughed at me and said I was the worlds biggest pushover.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:14 am

i never believed anything anyone said until i reasoned it for myself.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:16 am

I used to believe that logic could be used to persuade anyone.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:37 am

OK, want to hear something REALLY stupid? Keep in mind that I didn't watch the news, was young, etc.....

I believed that, when I was 18, the laws would be enforced!! !! !! !

Here I am at over 40, and know the laws are enforced almost ONLY when they are against the innocent! They actually have laws to HELP the guilty! I could name HUNDREDS of times when laws, to protect me, were NOT enforced, and DOZENS of times when laws, to help the guilty, WERE, just in MY life. Of course, when they hurt me, they often hurt others also, but you see my point.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:52 am

I could sit here and type out things I used to believe and became disillusioned about for a week...

...but I am too mean to share the cynicism...

I could sit here and type out embarassing things I once believed too...

...but do you SERIOUSLY think I want that stuff up on the internet???

So I will share this:

I used to believe that people never changed...

I don't mean I used to believe that they never changed to suit me...of course they don't do THAT...I mean I honestly used to believe that they never changed at all...that they never got tired of their old preferences and found new ones...and never learned new things, approaches or outlooks...

Maybe admitting THAT is more embarassing than anything else I could admit put together? I don't know...

...but regardless, I did believe it...and I was wrong...and, while they really, never ever WILL change "to suit you"...sometimes the changes they make anyway suit you a lot better...and the relationship you have with them changes too...

(Of course, it CAN also get worse, but let's stick with the positive here :D )

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03 Feb 2009, 9:25 am

Aufgehen said: " I thought that people knew what I was doing for them without me having to tell them."....among many other very astute observations, I might add...


.....I wanted to comment, though, on that one in particular......that is a very good one.....and I noticed that, too......what I've learned is......people DON'T pay attention very much to the 'good things' you do for them, they pay more attention to.........'other things' and completely MISS some very significant things you do WHEN YOU DON'T BROADCAST it OUT LOUD......there is a tendency there whereby they CONCENTRATE on their 'control goals' rather than on fairness, justice, equity, and understanding. People are *competitively obsessed* and *grasping* and it ruins their mind because of this. It also has a detrimental effect on human-quality-of-life for everyone, since the bottom line is selfishness, not relationship. I think your observation is profound......because NOW I notice that people spend an inordinate amount of time broadcasting such things in order to enhance 'their image', even to the point of *spinning it* (lie, exaggeratgion) on behalf of their ego. It's all about the 'talking about it', it isn't about doing it for the sake of doing it....it's about doing it so I can brag about it.......OUTLOUD. It's called 'tooting your own horn'.



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03 Feb 2009, 9:54 am

Sola wrote:
there is a tendency there whereby they CONCENTRATE on their 'control goals' rather than on fairness, justice, equity, and understanding.


I think this pretty much sums up everything about *normal range* humanity that I cannot handle...and makes me feel a whole lot better.

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03 Feb 2009, 11:28 am

I used to believe that presents were always given out of love or gratefulness. When someone showed me an expensive present they got, I used to conclude they must be very loved. Then throughout the years I discovered that most presents are given out of convention, or as emotional manipulation, bribery, as returning a present that was given to you as in owing a present, as compensation for damages, and most of all - as payment. Furthermore, many children get expensive presents because somebody owes their parent a big (and often not-so-moral) favor.


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03 Feb 2009, 4:53 pm

Greentea wrote:

That getting married (young) and forming a close-knit family with a hard-working father and a devoted mother were natural, automatic and that except in very rare cases, it's what happened to everyone, without needing to devote to it any conscious action or thought.


I forgot that one, but yeah, that is exactly what I thought! Maybe that is why I never got married: I spent my youth obsessed with my job/special interest, and I just assumed that the other stuff would "just happen", as it was supposed to. (And people talk as if it really does work this way...)


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03 Feb 2009, 5:24 pm

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that not everybody thinks in English.



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03 Feb 2009, 5:44 pm

notbrianna wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that not everybody thinks in English.


HUH? What do you mean about THAT?

I CAN think in other languages and, of course, English. I only think in english, or in any other language when I have to communicate in it, sometimes if I have to understand what others say, and sometimes with things like math. Going around, shopping, buying stuff, etc... can be done with no language or even thought.



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03 Feb 2009, 6:07 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
notbrianna wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that not everybody thinks in English.


HUH? What do you mean about THAT?

I CAN think in other languages and, of course, English. I only think in english, or in any other language when I have to communicate in it, sometimes if I have to understand what others say, and sometimes with things like math. Going around, shopping, buying stuff, etc... can be done with no language or even thought.


How does one not think... I think my head would implode if I were to have a completely blank mind..