What is on the other end of the Spectrum?
If there is a personality type that seems the polar opposite of ASC... and I don't believe there is one because I don't see ASC as being the "end" of anything... I see it as being outside a central core of neurotypicality rather than being at the opposite end of it.
But still it's fun to think what the opposite would be, if there was one. Given my experiences going through life as an Aspie, and who might be polar opposites to me, I would say someone who is narcissistic, someone with NPD.
Narcissists seem to particularly have the intuitiveness that ASC have a relative lack of - the relative lack of intuitiveness explains a lot of ASC. They have a pathological desire to manipulate that relative lack of intuitiveness, and the manipulation is in turn particularly difficult for the ASC person to interact with.
Career wise, the car salesperson and realtor careers that Aufgehen suggested seem closest to the mark for me. They are classically narcissistic careers especially the salesperson. Narcissism and manipulative intuitiveness are particularly useful for a salesperson, and being money-hungry is an advantage.
But still it's fun to think what the opposite would be, if there was one. Given my experiences going through life as an Aspie, and who might be polar opposites to me, I would say someone who is narcissistic, someone with NPD.
Narcissists seem to particularly have the intuitiveness that ASC have a relative lack of - the relative lack of intuitiveness explains a lot of ASC. They have a pathological desire to manipulate that relative lack of intuitiveness, and the manipulation is in turn particularly difficult for the ASC person to interact with.
Career wise, the car salesperson and realtor careers that Aufgehen suggested seem closest to the mark for me. They are classically narcissistic careers especially the salesperson. Narcissism and manipulative intuitiveness are particularly useful for a salesperson, and being money-hungry is an advantage.
Well, I guess I am narcissistic too then. I can make anyone do anything, I have proven it on several occasions, but where I differ from those that you mentioned, is that I prefer not to manipulate people into doing things. Free will is called that for a reason.
For example, the stereotypical career for an Aspie is "Computer Programmer." What would be a stereotypical career for the other end?
It would be a mistake to say that everyone is on the spectrum as if there were only one single line to be on.
Rather, I suspect that there are a whole big bunch of spectrum lines jutting out in all different directions and that we each could be placed somewhere on each of those lines.
Say for example a set of lines for the "social spectrum". One line would be for how much interaction your personality "requires", ranging from absolutely social and having to be with someone every single minute one end of that spectrum to sitting alone in a cabin for years on end with no social interaction for years at the other end. Another could be "ability to work alone" and measure how self-motivated the person is.
Then there would be a line for how well you systematize and categorize. Another for how well you read facial expressions. Another for how much you are able to differentiate between colors of the spectrum. Another for math skills, another for verbal skills, another for spiritual sensitivity, another for pattern recognition, etc, etc etc.
There is no one "perfect" personality type out there that is at the far end of the spectrum. There are skill sets that each person can bring and collectively we become more powerful as a whole because we fill in the other person's gaps.
For example, the stereotypical career for an Aspie is "Computer Programmer." What would be a stereotypical career for the other end?
It would be a mistake to say that everyone is on the spectrum as if there were only one single line to be on.
Rather, I suspect that there are a whole big bunch of spectrum lines jutting out in all different directions and that we each could be placed somewhere on each of those lines.
Say for example a set of lines for the "social spectrum". One line would be for how much interaction your personality "requires", ranging from absolutely social and having to be with someone every single minute one end of that spectrum to sitting alone in a cabin for years on end with no social interaction for years at the other end. Another could be "ability to work alone" and measure how self-motivated the person is.
Then there would be a line for how well you systematize and categorize. Another for how well you read facial expressions. Another for how much you are able to differentiate between colors of the spectrum. Another for math skills, another for verbal skills, another for spiritual sensitivity, another for pattern recognition, etc, etc etc.
There is no one "perfect" personality type out there that is at the far end of the spectrum. There are skill sets that each person can bring and collectively we become more powerful as a whole because we fill in the other person's gaps.
I believe in more of an 8d version of a sphere where poeple are somewhere in that 8d space.
i can understand if you mean that aspergers are not generally better programmers, but you infer that having AS is somehow deleterious to prgramming capability.
i can think of no reason that that would be the case and i disagree. there is no cognitive impairment.
as long as i can understand the requirements, then i can design the code with ease in solitude.
i do agree that a lot of people pretend to have AS and they boast about their superiority, and ascribe it to their apparrent "AS" .
it seems like there is a growing club of people who want to adopt an image of the asperger stereotype because they think it is either cute or impressive, and they want to appear that way.
No i mean that people who are on the spectrum are no better than regular people with respect to being programmers and I have employed a lot of programmers over the years both on the spectrum, off, and beyond it. People do need to realize that there are others out there way beyond where we are.
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I should calrify that in that I meant that aspies and autistics in general are not any more talented than Nt's with respect to programming skills beased upon my own experience of having to retain programmers for specific technical projects in the past.
All programmers in my opinion are valued people in society.
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It depends: If an Aspie is still able to get the overall idea and is not to preoccupied with his particular style and has a good abstract thinking he can be a very good programmer, because he has more stamina in working nights through or keeping focused on details which other often oversee.
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it seems like there is a growing club of people who want to adopt an image of the asperger stereotype because they think it is either cute or impressive, and they want to appear that way.
Ouch.
This is a little disturbing.
What about those of us who were labeled in childhood and have genuine social difficulties and struggled for years? It wasn't cute when I was little, people were frightened of the label.
I'm not a stereotype, this is my personality.
Any apparent "cuteness" or "impressiveness" is completely involuntary.
Where does the "cut off" point really lie?
Is it cultural?
it seems like there is a growing club of people who want to adopt an image of the asperger stereotype because they think it is either cute or impressive, and they want to appear that way.
Ouch.
This is a little disturbing.
What about those of us who were labeled in childhood and have genuine social difficulties and struggled for years? It wasn't cute when I was little, people were frightened of the label.
I'm not a stereotype, this is my personality.
Any apparent "cuteness" or "impressiveness" is completely involuntary.
Where does the "cut off" point really lie?
Is it cultural?
I don't want to be cute, I want to be me... I don't like everything that AS does to me, but I live with it, there is no point in fighting it, and noone should want to have AS, they should be happier not having something that makes life more difficult. I accept that I have it, because I have no choice in the matter.

