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To Kill or Not to Kill
Kill! Kill! Kill! 44%  44%  [ 24 ]
Spend a few months engineering the perfect no-kill mousetrap 45%  45%  [ 25 ]
Let them live, share your house, and buy them food. 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 55

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15 Mar 2009, 9:24 pm

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..I use a standard spring powered mouse trap baited with penut butter. Nine time out of ten the whacker breaks the neck of the mouse producing instantaneous death. Mice are pests and vermin and I will not share my house with them. They chew through food cartons and wrappers and leave fewmets all about. Snap! Crack! That is the solution!

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This is what my husband wants to do, and since I've let the problem go on too long, I have low credibility right now, between the two of us.

I've decided that I will go to some stores tomorrow and see what kind of traps I can find. If there are some no-kill ones I will pick those up. If not... I'll have to set out some conventional traps.

And looking at the poll, it's not looking good for the mice... I don't think public opinion is behind them.



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15 Mar 2009, 9:38 pm

Hire a professional to do your dirty work. When they wink, pausing for emphasis, and say, "The, ahem, 'mouse' :wink: has taken the 'cheese,'" you won't know whether to feel relieved or panicked all over again.

Edit: Your experience with non-Sicilian professionals may be different.



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15 Mar 2009, 9:44 pm

Kill the mice and plug the holes before the snakes figure out that the food lives in your house. Unless you want to share with snakes too.


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15 Mar 2009, 9:50 pm

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I have mice in the house. They are indescribably adorable, but obviously it's unhealthy to have these uninvited guests.

Let's assume I'm not going to discover or be able to afford some nifty mouse traps that work without killing them.

I'm one of those AS who hate to hurt things. I won't even kill flies in the house, but catch them and put them out.

I suppose I have to kill these mice but I'm finding it very upsetting. I have been putting this off for a while now and I think they have had a litter because there seem to be more.

I think I'm falling into that AS thing where I can't do something, so I'm putting it off. And yet each time I know I need to do something, I can't do it.

So how do I overcome my reluctance and start killing? Have a few drinks and go on a killing spree?

Should I be plotting their capture and release? How realistic is that?

Are there other can't-hurt-anything AS here? What would you do?

Wait outside while I bring my cat over.
Or imagine that they are actually evil mice that plan to bring the species of man down.
I've never had to kill mice. I've killed plenty of spiders and cockroaches, but they are ugly buggers.



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15 Mar 2009, 11:04 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Hire a professional to do your dirty work. When they wink, pausing for emphasis, and say, "The, ahem, 'mouse' :wink: has taken the 'cheese,'" you won't know whether to feel relieved or panicked all over again....


They are actually here in the kitchen as I sit in it. They are thumbing their noses at fate :skull: by being so bold...

I'm going to have to act before the population explodes, like tomorrow. Poor little adorable field mice.



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16 Mar 2009, 12:01 am

I would move and let the mice have the house. I am absolutely serious. I would continue making the mortgage payments for them.


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16 Mar 2009, 12:52 am

i have 8 mice that live in the roof of my shed. they come out every afternoon at dusk and wait for me to feed them. they run up to my porch and watch me as i get some meusli for them. they are quite tame.
in my case, they have not grown in population. only if there is an unlimited supply of food will mice populations explode. i am careful not to feed them too much, as they would multiply.
they seem to know that there is just enough food for them all, so they do not breed wildly.

they are clean animals by nature. they always sit on their haunches and lick their front paws and wash their faces and preen themselves while they wait to be fed.
i guess if you live in a neighborhood where there are open garbage bins and stuff, they may be not as clean.

i like my mice just as much as the possums and kookaburras etc that i feed.

anyway, if i had to catch them, i would use a tube where one end is on a table, and the other end is overhanging a plastic bin they can not jump out of.
if you oplace the bait at the end of the tube over hanging the bin like:

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sorry the pic is crude but it shows the concept.



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16 Mar 2009, 1:03 am

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1. Mousetraps kill them quickly.
Not necessarily. Sometimes the trap snags a foot or traps the head but the mouse doesn't die.

That's what the shoe is for. Ahhhh, Crunch! Oh god, I'm enjoying this thread way too much!


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16 Mar 2009, 10:46 am

get a non-lethal mousetrap.


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16 Mar 2009, 11:24 am

We had a mouse once. He was so cute but he was eating things in our cabinets and pooping everywere and it just wasn't sanitary. We tried humane traps but he was too smart. He would steal the food out without getting trapped. We ended up having to get a very extra sensitive snap-trap because he was just too clever. We tried to save him :(



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16 Mar 2009, 11:36 am

ephemerella wrote:


And looking at the poll, it's not looking good for the mice... I don't think public opinion is behind them.


Notwithstanding Walt Disney, mice are vermin.

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16 Mar 2009, 12:07 pm

As some others have stated cats would be a great solution. I have 2 and have never seen a mouse in my apartment. I think the mice can smell/sense the cats and avoid my place like the plague. I just don't have the heart to kill them myself.

One of my fellow workers had a koi pond in his backyard. Musk rats chewed through the liner of his pond killing many of his fish. He bought a havaheart trap to catch them. They would climb into the trap, he would catch them and then throw them into the river beside his house drowning them.

http://www.havahart.com/store/live-animal-traps



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16 Mar 2009, 2:03 pm

Dad would kill vermin on sight, no hesitation. A farm girl in the family did the same thing, though she was even more nonchalant about it, and would hold a conversation with you about a totally unrelated topic at the same time. I guess if you couldn't kill easily, you wouldn't last long on an old-style animal farm.

At one time in his life he actually used man-traps (deep pits containing spikes, and a booby trap of large rocks). Luckily he never caught anything - then I fell down one myself (luckily without spikes, so I was more shocked than hurt), and I think that's when he realised how lethal they could be, and not long afterwards he filled them in. He coud never understand my desire to keep animals alive, though I had no problem with his man-traps, apart from thinking he might get jailed.



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16 Mar 2009, 2:11 pm

51% of people who have voted in this poll are evil.



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16 Mar 2009, 2:59 pm

hey i voted for non lethal =/ We have 3 cats though <.<



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16 Mar 2009, 3:16 pm

The early bird catches the worm, but it's the second mouse that takes the cheese!


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