anyone else find IQ test-score threads funny?

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Do you think your IQ score is important?
Yes 22%  22%  [ 10 ]
No 78%  78%  [ 35 ]
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16 Mar 2009, 5:20 pm

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It is interesting to contemplate the possiblities of intellectual diversity but keep in mind that to cannibals the human brain is just a food source.
Yeah, and they're welcome to their prion diseases. I think the human brain is frankly amazing, and it doesn't have to have a high IQ to be that way.


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16 Mar 2009, 5:50 pm

I proudly flaunt my 91 IQ. I think it is hilarious. I think I got 100 once too. I find the test really tedious, why would I want a high score in something that bores me?



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16 Mar 2009, 6:13 pm

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It's as if IQ scores were the Asperger's equivalent to penis (or breast) size. :roll:


Well, I don't dwell on ANY of the above. Heck, for breast size I like B, which I have heard is the average for the US, (a size smaller or larger is about as good). Someone asked if a penis size of 2" or 2' is better. I said 2"! 2'(12 times as large!), would be too big for anyone. For the record, I said no to the IQ question above.

I would LOVE to have a 200IQ, or higher, but the world is ALREADY way too boring. I certainly don't like talking with many people that are below 100. But the idea of bragging is crazy. zen_mistress made a good point. A LOT of things can affect your score.

I WAS going to respond to garywww, but Callista beat me to it. :cry:



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16 Mar 2009, 6:52 pm

Personally, I don't think that intelligence is something that can be measured by a simple number, and I see people who brag about their high IQ scores to be very elitist.

I don't know my own IQ, nor do I ever want to know.



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16 Mar 2009, 6:55 pm

I agree that high IQ is not all that interesting and in fact it seems to be the people with a lower IQ are far more interesting to talkw with. AS to prion, well thats up to the brain eaters to address.


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17 Mar 2009, 3:13 am

IQ tests predict how well a person would do in a French school in 1890.

That brings up a much broader and recent study done across a mass of people, who were beyond the original classifications of , under 80, stays on the farm and feeds pigs, 90-100, picks grapes, and 100 110 may learn to read.

We call it World War Two. The broad classes now include, marches with pack, can operate machines, and may learn to read. The results of this study showed that almost all grouped around a functional level of "Half way through the Eighth Grade with a C-." Later studies, Viet Nam, show the scores are consistant over time.

So by this, an IQ of 150=Twelth Grade, with a C-.

Most people did not persue higher education, in fact, most fled it, they quickly learned that other places will pay you to keep showing up and doing useless things.

Some who were not capable of making this mental leap had to attend a remedial University, and besides show up, pay for the training. Most were still unable to enter the workforce without accomidation.

In four years they learned advanced playground, the mathematics of sports, but mostly started a lifelong drinking problem.

Their income potential was about 20% of a UAW blue collar worker who could run an air powered screw driver. $32,000 vs $165,000. And they had Student Loans. They accepted it because they were told they had a high IQ. When laidoff, University types are evicted within a month and go live with their parents, UAW keeps getting the same paycheck for three years.

IQ testing has also shown a creep over time, moving up 1% per decade. These 12 points are attributed to mental inflation, needed to keep the mean at 100. This is done by dropping the hard questions.



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17 Mar 2009, 3:23 am

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When I get asked my IQ, I preface my response with "IQ holds no means to success."

I have an IQ of 189, and though I graduated two years early, I haven't done anything meaningful by society's standards.

I know plenty of people who would be considered below average who have been quite successful.

IQ scores aren't very important, unless maybe you're a child trying to skip a grade or two.


It's also important to show off when you lack self esteem. (Not reffering to you, don't worry:p)



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17 Mar 2009, 4:03 am

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I don't care about IQs. You can have an IQ of 137 and still be a ignorant f**k while someone can have an IQ of 93 and accept anyone for them and not judge based on someone's disability.


I totally agree. On here most people do IQ tests for the fun of it (well I do and it always comes out at 100 exactly!) but some people take it waaaay too seriously. My stepdad is in Mensa and thinks that this gives him the right to complain about everyone and everything. Really p****s me off. I think that he is an ignorant b*****d despite his 'high IQ'. Besides they only really measure your ability to do math and write. So are all dyslexics/dyscalculics ret*d? That's what the Mensans seem to think. I'm dyscalculic and I'm always being told how intelligent I am despite my apparently average IQ score and inability to multiply numbers... Grr... rant over...


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17 Mar 2009, 4:30 am

^ are you sure your stepdad hasn't been cloned and then sent to populate WP?
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17 Mar 2009, 5:33 am

Actually, from the looks of it, it seems the people who think IQ is extremely important are in the minority here.

I read somewhere that the higher your IQ was, the less likely you thought you should tell people. Maybe that's because the higher your IQ, the better equipped you are to understand that IQ is a lot less than people make it out to be; and it's no wonder you don't want people measuring you by a number and making assumptions about you just because you are supposed to be smart. I don't care how high the number is; you're still an individual; but popular culture has a stereotype of "smart" that just goes one way. People want to be taken at face value, not seen as some standardized set of traits. (I didn't see that applied to unusually low IQs though. Just average and high ones.)

There'll always be narcissists, of course, and some of them will score high on IQ tests and naturally brag about it; and there'll be people who just want a reason to tell themselves they're worth something, and don't realize they don't actually need a reason at all; but all in all I don't think most "intelligent" people brag all that much. It's just the most visible ones who do. I'm enrolled in the engineering department at my college now, and I bet some of my classmates can blow the top off most IQ tests; but I've yet to encounter a conversation about IQs, and only one about ACT scores. Maybe that's just an effect of being with people who are all pretty good at the math/science geekery... still, they don't seem to talk much about it. I hear them talking about grades all the time, though.


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17 Mar 2009, 6:25 am

Callista wrote:
Actually, from the looks of it, it seems the people who think IQ is extremely important are in the minority here.

I read somewhere that the higher your IQ was, the less likely you thought you should tell people. Maybe that's because the higher your IQ, the better equipped you are to understand that IQ is a lot less than people make it out to be; and it's no wonder you don't want people measuring you by a number and making assumptions about you just because you are supposed to be smart. I don't care how high the number is; you're still an individual; but popular culture has a stereotype of "smart" that just goes one way. People want to be taken at face value, not seen as some standardized set of traits. (I didn't see that applied to unusually low IQs though. Just average and high ones.).


Well, it was more the way this poll was constructed. "Do you think your IQ SCORE is IMPORTANT?". Frankly, I would love it if the world was smarter. Half the world wars were probably started by pure stupidity, etc... But does the SCORE mean that much? NOPE! Heck, they found that several scores make more sense. It is said that, in the US, one university wanted to make sure students could do well, etc... Did they use the IQ? Did they give an IQ test? NOPE! They created a test that became the Scholastic Aptitude Test(SAT for short). IT, unlike the IQ test, covered just a cross section of those things that colleges require.

So, CLEARLY, the score doesn't tell you THAT much. What one test could?

It isn't anything to brag about, and I question those that do. Most just don't seem too bright.

Still, it IS good to determine level and approximate capability, up to a point.

Even many of the people that state their IQ in those threads, that you hate, state this SAME sentiment!



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17 Mar 2009, 7:29 am

I have no idea what my IQ is. That's how important it is to me :P
I'm more conscious of my emotional and social intelligence (which are both low)



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17 Mar 2009, 7:39 am

Callista wrote:
Actually, from the looks of it, it seems the people who think IQ is extremely important are in the minority here.

I read somewhere that the higher your IQ was, the less likely you thought you should tell people. Maybe that's because the higher your IQ, the better equipped you are to understand that IQ is a lot less than people make it out to be; and it's no wonder you don't want people measuring you by a number and making assumptions about you just because you are supposed to be smart. I don't care how high the number is; you're still an individual; but popular culture has a stereotype of "smart" that just goes one way. People want to be taken at face value, not seen as some standardized set of traits. (I didn't see that applied to unusually low IQs though. Just average and high ones.)

There'll always be narcissists, of course, and some of them will score high on IQ tests and naturally brag about it; and there'll be people who just want a reason to tell themselves they're worth something, and don't realize they don't actually need a reason at all; but all in all I don't think most "intelligent" people brag all that much. It's just the most visible ones who do. I'm enrolled in the engineering department at my college now, and I bet some of my classmates can blow the top off most IQ tests; but I've yet to encounter a conversation about IQs, and only one about ACT scores. Maybe that's just an effect of being with people who are all pretty good at the math/science geekery... still, they don't seem to talk much about it. I hear them talking about grades all the time, though.


Then why do I see more people brag about their high IQ than say people who are average?

I try not taking IQs as serious but I do get sick of people using them as means of ALL or NOTHING. I had one person online who knew what mine was and in every arguement all they could do was justify that their IQ was higher than mine and that unlike me, they didn't suffer a learning disablity. That's why I don't bring up my damn IQ scores onto these threads anymore. Mainly because I get outed by smart jerks who have nothing better to do then to hurt me where it hurts most. I really get sensative when I open up about these things and then have someone bring me down after seeing it. You'd think someone with a high IQ would know better than to be that arrogant.


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17 Mar 2009, 8:35 am

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anyone else find IQ test-score threads funny?

no i do not find them funny. this site attracts many young people who are in search of an identity. some of these young people adopt the persona of a "professor" as their role models.
they become obsessed with presenting themselves as undiscovered diamonds.
undiscovered they will remain.

wit feeds it's own appetite, and needs not to display itself to others to reinforce confidence in it's reality gleaned from their approval.

so you who trumpet your IQ,
are not like me but just like you.
(that is a rhyme if no one got it)


people can not prove they are smart anymore. they can google for their replies, and reword everything they read and respond easily in a quasi intellectual way if they desire to be seen as "thought wizards".

there is an elitist pimply lean and hungry set of non alpha lions on the periphery that are just waiting for a chance to display their 120 IQ's in a guise of 150.
they can google the extra 30 points they need to have the discussion with people who may challenge them about being 150. a 120 person can, with disciplined google trawling, present themselves as a genius.



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17 Mar 2009, 2:48 pm

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Whether your IQ score matters or not depends on what it is. Same as how whether your AQ or AspieQuiz score matters or not depends on what it is. Same as height, weight, shoe size, income . . . The more average you are, the less relevant it is.


:lmao:

gee...and i'll bet Cezanne would have subsribed to the above perspective.


He might have. His daddy was rich, so he already went to the best school in town, where he hung out in a gifted enclave with Emile Zola and some guy who became an engineer (and made a pile of money off some patents, if I recall correctly). He was pretty lucky to have some brainy friends as a kid, and some gifted mentors as an adult, but even so, with his isolation, he may well have fit in with the folks at Triple Nine Society, some of whom are all too familiar with the isolation people with the highest scores often face.

Of course, we'll never know, since he isn't around to ask. But lots of gifted people identify with The Outsiders, unfortunately.
http://www.prometheussociety.org/articles/Outsiders.html

And, while it's nice you find all this so amusing, how would you (do you?) feel if/when people laugh at how autistic people talk about autism? People who are different need to figure out how to deal with it when it causes them problems. When you're category five gifted, or 58DDDD, or 8 feet tall, it gets in the way.

I'm used to being flamed. Are all exceptionally gifted people used to being flamed when they don't dumb themselves down or keep their mouths shut?



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17 Mar 2009, 4:03 pm

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IQ testing has also shown a creep over time, moving up 1% per decade. These 12 points are attributed to mental inflation, needed to keep the mean at 100. This is done by dropping the hard questions.

What the hell are you talking about? IQ tests have to be renormed every few years because IQ shows a tendency to increase known as the Flynn Effect, which is exhibit A of the environmental plasticity of IQ. People in the past would have had a much lower IQ using modern standards; one article estimated that 1930s era people would have had an average IQ in the neighborhood of 80 by the standards of the mid 1990s.

-twoshots, who, of course, has no idea what his IQ is but gestimates it to be within 3 standard deviations of 100*(Σ(1/2)^j + (lim (1+1/n)^n [as n->∞])^(i*π))


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