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24 Mar 2009, 7:42 pm

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Actually there aren't that many people on here compared to comparable sites with this number of members but we have no way of knowing what kind of bandwidth is being allocated for this forum. I was told at one time that we are on a dedicated server and a dedicated uplink which I found at the time wasn't true and now I'm even more doubtful. I imagine that we're on a 'forum' type server along with dozens of other forums as all of them grow the pipe gets congested.


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Ok! but then the site must not look like or ask everybody to come along.
I was a webmaster for a couple of years, so I know what's all about. These forum sites, is no big deal. I seriously doubt if this is getting to alex at all, he don't care all that much, he just started it. Now it's just living its own life.


That's it, there is no guarantee of how much longer it will be around.


Of cause not. But anybody can start a site like this. This site just got a reputation, fine.
You mean we all should crawl in the dust for that?


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24 Mar 2009, 7:43 pm

I had a similar problem with a forum I owned so I upgraded to a newer software and a faster server. it seemed like the logical thing to do and I think it cost something like $250 which I admit is a lot of money but not much in comparison to the traffic this site gets. Come to think of it this site has more advertising than most socalled 'sucker' sites so I'm not to sure the owners are going into the red on this operation as it now stands.
Check out Alex's home page. Looks pretty unconcerned to me.
http://www.alexplank.com/


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24 Mar 2009, 7:51 pm

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Of cause not. But anybody can start a site like this. This site just got a reputation, fine.
You mean we all should crawl in the dust for that?


Yes, you're right, anybody can start a site like this. There are many autism related forums but this is the granddaddy of them all. Since my first visit I've felt as if I belong. I've never had that feeling on any other forum.

It's the people who make this forum what it is, no one else, so I know this site could be replicated.

edit: I appreciate the time and money Alex has invested over the years to keep this site up.



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24 Mar 2009, 8:16 pm

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mosez wrote:
Of cause not. But anybody can start a site like this. This site just got a reputation, fine.
You mean we all should crawl in the dust for that?


Yes, you're right, anybody can start a site like this. There are many autism related forums but this is the granddaddy of them all. Since my first visit I've felt as if I belong. I've never had that feeling on any other forum.

It's the people who make this forum what it is, no one else, so I know this site could be replicated.

edit: I appreciate the time and money Alex has invested over the years to keep this site up.


I do too. Didn't mean to sound harsh or something, but sounds like you say that if we pay, the site will work much better?
Off cause, we aprecciate all work done in our behalf, but I'm not sure Alex see it this way?


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24 Mar 2009, 8:21 pm

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I'm not sure how that works but there are 555 online now. 173 members and 382 visitors.


It was not long ago when 100 members and 200 visitors were the normal load.

I joined at 7000, it crashed every night at 11.

At 10,000 there was an upgrade that carried through to now.



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24 Mar 2009, 8:28 pm

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I'm not sure how that works but there are 555 online now. 173 members and 382 visitors.


It was not long ago when 100 members and 200 visitors were the normal load.

I joined at 7000, it crashed every night at 11.

At 10,000 there was an upgrade that carried through to now.



Yeah! We should listen to people with experience, natural causes :D


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24 Mar 2009, 8:40 pm

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I do too. Didn't mean to sound harsh or something, but sounds like you say that if we pay, the site will work much better?
Off cause, we aprecciate all work done in our behalf, but I'm not sure Alex see it this way?


I'm not sure how Alex sees it and I hope no one thinks I'm trying speak for him.

This site was started almost 5 years ago when he was 17.

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Alex Plank is the 22 year old guy behind WrongPlanet.net, the incredibly popular site for individuals with Asperger's Syndrome and Autism. Both Alex and Wrong Planet have been featured by The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, and Good Morning America. Wrong Planet has more than 22,000 registered members and its discussion forums contain more than one million messages.

Alex is a student at George Mason University majoring in Film and Video Studies. His hobbies and interests include the Internet, writing, acting, and video production. For Alex hobbies aren't just something to pass the time; he believes in aggressively pursuing his interests in a way that will better the world.


His interests have probably shifted away from the site to school and its activities. That is all I am saying.



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24 Mar 2009, 9:11 pm

Maybe you should be listening to those with degrees and actual real knowledge in computers. The servers are going down because there is not enough bandwidth. There are too darn many people on here and at any given time there is usually more guests than actual members hence we have developed such a infamy that we have more eavesdroppers than real Aspies. That said there are still way more posters online at any one time than any other message board I have ever visited. So the only solution is to kill membership a little and eliminate eavesdropping by charging membership which in turn would also create money to buy more bandwidth.



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24 Mar 2009, 9:11 pm

I think a good solution is to encourage members to communicate via e-mail or IM.



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24 Mar 2009, 9:15 pm

Ticker wrote:
Maybe you should be listening to those with degrees and actual real knowledge in computers. The servers are going down because there is not enough bandwidth. There are too darn many people on here and at any given time there is usually more guests than actual members hence we have developed such a infamy that we have more eavesdroppers than real Aspies. That said there are still way more posters online at any one time than any other message board I have ever visited. So the only solution is to kill membership a little and eliminate eavesdropping by charging membership which in turn would also create money to buy more bandwidth.


Isn't bandwidth issues why TV stations are switching to digital?



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24 Mar 2009, 9:17 pm

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If this is followed by a WP pledge drive then I'll know we have been set up. :?


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24 Mar 2009, 9:42 pm

Graph of the number of new users joining WP per day.


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Image <- New users and posts per day Image <- Posts per user Image <- Posts per user per day

http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts62307-start15.html


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24 Mar 2009, 10:46 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Isn't bandwidth issues why TV stations are switching to digital?


Yes its the main reason. Actually analog and digital programs take up the same bandwidth. But digital can be compressed. All the modern day technology is the problem. HDTV, radio, cell phones and cordless phones, emergency transmitters are all filling up the bandwidth and there's little room left. Actually HDTV should be banned it takes up way too much bandwidth is honestly is just not necessary. The radio frequency spectrum is not infinite.



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25 Mar 2009, 12:36 pm

Its slower than a car powered by snails being driven by my dad.



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25 Mar 2009, 1:13 pm

Thanks for the graphs Merle but depending on how you chew on them you can come to some conflicting conclusions. One being that the post per day per user is actually dropping historically speaking amd the post per new user is only slightly higher than it qwas a year ago. New memebrs is way up but are they sucking up bandwidth just by page views? Somebody with a 'real' degree will have to say.
In general I agree with DeLoreanDude's asessement.


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25 Mar 2009, 1:30 pm

Because the moon wanes, does that mean it does not wax luminous in its cycle? There has been much growth here; in less than a year, the site has added some 6000 members... while not all are active, what cause do you have to want to think the site lessened or needing to be shuttered? ...and I don't see a chart showing posts per new user - which one are you referring to? The only one I see is post per user per day (not new user), and the change can be explained by the fact that the number of users does not accurately reflect the number of active users - as older members cease to be active and people sign up briefly before moving on, the difference between total and active increases while the relatively constant number of active members do not produce more posts to artificially inflate the statistics... therefore, the posts per user -=will=- go down. One does not need to be a member to use the site's resources and view pages, Gary... another thing to consider. The slowdown may be due to server issues, ISP issues, traffic issues - but I don't think it is due to poor reflection on the quality of WP.


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