04 Apr 2009, 9:15 am
04 Apr 2009, 12:08 pm
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
With intelligence of that magnitude, you could literally bring the world to your knees.
Eh? How would an IQ of 250 make me kneel before its shell?
A bullet doesn't care how smart you are.
A person with that intelligence could devise devastating nuclear weapons and have the ability to engineer pathogens that are not only contagious but extremely deadly with a short duration.
1. IQ does NOT ensure such an ability!
2. Such weapons COULD be engineered by someone not NEARLY as bright!
3. They HAVE been designed by dumber people.
4. The information is FREELY available.
BESIDES, nuclear weapons could hurt the designer! Pathogens may as well, and require some method to avoid it.
Have you seen the principle of an atomic bomb? It is downright SIMPLISTIC! They created 2 methods to do it, and hoped ONE would work. They BOTH did.
A lot of gas weapons and even bacterial are simplistic. As for virus, some claim that AIDS was such an attempt.
The principle is simple but there are other factors to consider. For example, how to mitigate the effects fallout (as this can effect the entire world) and at the same time create enough damage that would force the enemy nation to surrender. The problem with the HIV virus is that it's not easily communicable and death is not immediate. It wouldn't exactly be the best disease for the job unless the virus was manipulated in a laboratory and created to be more easily communicable.
Fsllout doesn't effect the world! It COULD be said to effect cancer! Sorry, I can't resist!
NOBODY has figured out how to mitigate fallout! GRANTED, there is the neutron bomb that tries to use more neutrons, to kill without destroying. As for HIV, nobody REALLY knows how easy it is to spread. And a slow death means MORE contagion! Do you think that HIV would be as big today if people died QUICKLY? THOUSANDS died before they found that a "flight attendent" spread it over a few DAYS! By the time they found that, people in several countries were pretty much DEAD!The bubonic plague was responsible for the deaths of 200 million people and reduced Europe's population by 1/3. Death from the bubonic plague was very quick. Without treatment, the mortality rate is half and death usually occurs 3-7 days after contracting it. A slow death wasn't needed for the black death to spread like wildfire. Of course it can be cured by using antibiotics now but that's getting off on a tangent. As of far, AIDS cannot be spread without the exchange of bodily fluids other than saliva. You cannot catch AIDS from being on a bus with the person infected or through coughing ect. If you don't have sexual relations with an HIV positive person, share drug needles, or receive a blood transfusion from one with HIV, you are highly unlikely to contract the disease. If all remained the same but those with AIDS had quick death, it wouldn't spread at a great rate due to the difficulty of contracting the disease. However, I was stating that if AIDS had a quick death rate AND was easily communicable, its effects would be more devastating to the world at large.
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04 Apr 2009, 12:27 pm
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04 Apr 2009, 12:55 pm
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What I want is telepathic ability, telekinesis, rapid reasoning deduction, vivid imagination, photographic memory, profound insight, prophetic powers, observative perseverence, a language all of my very own that others can learn, perfect pitch, one or two savant skills, perfect scores on every exam attempted, unlimited energy, confidence, a "can do" attitude, brainstorming, psychic powers, accute pattern detection skills, patience, unlimited attention span, focus, drive, money making skills, musical ability, problem solving profundity, attention to minutia, kiosks, mechanical aptitude, basic laws of physics, the history of psychology, psychometry, parapsychology, quantum reactive physics, theraputic intake, knowledge of small engines, how to install a ceiling fan alone, fuel injectors, radiators, starters and fan belts, sewing machines and how to assemble blue jeans, Bedazzlers, beading, fabric 101, a publishing empire all of my very own, a city block that belongs to me, a skyscraper that has my name, a hall at Havard, speed reading, hjouse construction, plumbing, synthesizers and samplers, flat screen tvs, rare plants and exotic animals, unlimited scope and charm.
Is that all Lol
Better start writing your Christmas list then...
Actually, I think that some of those things might come in jolly handy for me too...
Especially the unlimited scope and charm
And the perfect exam scores
And the profound problem solving thingy
Wait...
I'll take the lot actually.
How much are they charging?
Oh
And giant American style Old Time Carousel
Oh and a Pony...
Wait...
Don't all of these things (including extreme talents) require high maintenance?
Leave out the synthesisers though (I already have some).
04 Apr 2009, 7:19 pm
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04 Apr 2009, 8:39 pm
timeisdead wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
With intelligence of that magnitude, you could literally bring the world to your knees.
Eh? How would an IQ of 250 make me kneel before its shell?
A bullet doesn't care how smart you are.
A person with that intelligence could devise devastating nuclear weapons and have the ability to engineer pathogens that are not only contagious but extremely deadly with a short duration.
1. IQ does NOT ensure such an ability!
2. Such weapons COULD be engineered by someone not NEARLY as bright!
3. They HAVE been designed by dumber people.
4. The information is FREELY available.
BESIDES, nuclear weapons could hurt the designer! Pathogens may as well, and require some method to avoid it.
Have you seen the principle of an atomic bomb? It is downright SIMPLISTIC! They created 2 methods to do it, and hoped ONE would work. They BOTH did.
A lot of gas weapons and even bacterial are simplistic. As for virus, some claim that AIDS was such an attempt.
The principle is simple but there are other factors to consider. For example, how to mitigate the effects fallout (as this can effect the entire world) and at the same time create enough damage that would force the enemy nation to surrender. The problem with the HIV virus is that it's not easily communicable and death is not immediate. It wouldn't exactly be the best disease for the job unless the virus was manipulated in a laboratory and created to be more easily communicable.
Fsllout doesn't effect the world! It COULD be said to effect cancer! Sorry, I can't resist!
NOBODY has figured out how to mitigate fallout! GRANTED, there is the neutron bomb that tries to use more neutrons, to kill without destroying. As for HIV, nobody REALLY knows how easy it is to spread. And a slow death means MORE contagion! Do you think that HIV would be as big today if people died QUICKLY? THOUSANDS died before they found that a "flight attendent" spread it over a few DAYS! By the time they found that, people in several countries were pretty much DEAD!The bubonic plague was responsible for the deaths of 200 million people and reduced Europe's population by 1/3. Death from the bubonic plague was very quick. Without treatment, the mortality rate is half and death usually occurs 3-7 days after contracting it. A slow death wasn't needed for the black death to spread like wildfire. Of course it can be cured by using antibiotics now but that's getting off on a tangent. As of far, AIDS cannot be spread without the exchange of bodily fluids other than saliva. You cannot catch AIDS from being on a bus with the person infected or through coughing ect. If you don't have sexual relations with an HIV positive person, share drug needles, or receive a blood transfusion from one with HIV, you are highly unlikely to contract the disease. If all remained the same but those with AIDS had quick death, it wouldn't spread at a great rate due to the difficulty of contracting the disease. However, I was stating that if AIDS had a quick death rate AND was easily communicable, its effects would be more devastating to the world at large.
Well, do you REALLY know how well the bubonic plague ITSELF spreads? AIDS vector is HUMANS! If the humans die quickly, the vector is gone, and there is little spread. The bubonic plagues vector is normally NOT humans, but FLEAS! This means two things:
1. the contagion might even be EQUAL!
2. The vector does NOT die in days(as you claim), but could conceivably go on for YEARS, since they breed rapidly, and can quickly spread the disease to their young.
04 Apr 2009, 11:44 pm
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
With intelligence of that magnitude, you could literally bring the world to your knees.
Eh? How would an IQ of 250 make me kneel before its shell?
A bullet doesn't care how smart you are.
A person with that intelligence could devise devastating nuclear weapons and have the ability to engineer pathogens that are not only contagious but extremely deadly with a short duration.
1. IQ does NOT ensure such an ability!
2. Such weapons COULD be engineered by someone not NEARLY as bright!
3. They HAVE been designed by dumber people.
4. The information is FREELY available.
BESIDES, nuclear weapons could hurt the designer! Pathogens may as well, and require some method to avoid it.
Have you seen the principle of an atomic bomb? It is downright SIMPLISTIC! They created 2 methods to do it, and hoped ONE would work. They BOTH did.
A lot of gas weapons and even bacterial are simplistic. As for virus, some claim that AIDS was such an attempt.
The principle is simple but there are other factors to consider. For example, how to mitigate the effects fallout (as this can effect the entire world) and at the same time create enough damage that would force the enemy nation to surrender. The problem with the HIV virus is that it's not easily communicable and death is not immediate. It wouldn't exactly be the best disease for the job unless the virus was manipulated in a laboratory and created to be more easily communicable.
Fsllout doesn't effect the world! It COULD be said to effect cancer! Sorry, I can't resist!
NOBODY has figured out how to mitigate fallout! GRANTED, there is the neutron bomb that tries to use more neutrons, to kill without destroying. As for HIV, nobody REALLY knows how easy it is to spread. And a slow death means MORE contagion! Do you think that HIV would be as big today if people died QUICKLY? THOUSANDS died before they found that a "flight attendent" spread it over a few DAYS! By the time they found that, people in several countries were pretty much DEAD!The bubonic plague was responsible for the deaths of 200 million people and reduced Europe's population by 1/3. Death from the bubonic plague was very quick. Without treatment, the mortality rate is half and death usually occurs 3-7 days after contracting it. A slow death wasn't needed for the black death to spread like wildfire. Of course it can be cured by using antibiotics now but that's getting off on a tangent. As of far, AIDS cannot be spread without the exchange of bodily fluids other than saliva. You cannot catch AIDS from being on a bus with the person infected or through coughing ect. If you don't have sexual relations with an HIV positive person, share drug needles, or receive a blood transfusion from one with HIV, you are highly unlikely to contract the disease. If all remained the same but those with AIDS had quick death, it wouldn't spread at a great rate due to the difficulty of contracting the disease. However, I was stating that if AIDS had a quick death rate AND was easily communicable, its effects would be more devastating to the world at large.
Well, do you REALLY know how well the bubonic plague ITSELF spreads? AIDS vector is HUMANS! If the humans die quickly, the vector is gone, and there is little spread. The bubonic plagues vector is normally NOT humans, but FLEAS! This means two things:
1. the contagion might even be EQUAL!
2. The vector does NOT die in days(as you claim), but could conceivably go on for YEARS, since they breed rapidly, and can quickly spread the disease to their young.
I understand that the plague was spread by fleas that carried the disease from rats but you fail to understand that the disease itself was contagious, especially when pneumonic plague developed as a secondary infection from advanced bubonic plague. Although this was the least common form of the plague, it was also extremely contagious in addition to having a mortality rate of 90 percent. I stated that the person that had caught the plague died within days, not the fleas or the rats from which the fleas carried the bacteria yersinia pestis. My exact point was that the person quickly perished from the disease.
05 Apr 2009, 12:20 am
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05 Apr 2009, 9:59 am
05 Apr 2009, 12:56 pm
Mw99, I can recall upon my dx of Aspergers that my IQ was scored at being from 82-89 honestly 
.However, though this in itself does not make me major stupid or something for, I've always learned that intelligence comes in various forms therefore, IQ tests are not always valid in some regards.. In fact, since that time I've been able to acquire a great amount of skills that others thought I'd not be able to do wherein; having a high IQ does not make your life in greater yes, there is no doubt it would open doors that had been previously closed but, there is always a vast number of variables that all persons sometimes may not be able to forsee therefore, my closing statement would be only to have acknowledgement of yourself as a person and all of your abilities as a whole and not to let what others or numerical references get you down as such..
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05 Apr 2009, 3:45 pm
kornchild wrote:
This woman has broken the world record for the highest IQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vo ... ient_score
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vo ... ient_score
One of the two I alluded to earlier in this thread!
05 Apr 2009, 7:14 pm
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