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12 May 2018, 5:37 pm

I don't know to say whether autism is through the genes or not. My parents don't seem to have it because if they did then it would have been harder for them to function in the outside world. My mom is able to read a person up and down, pick up vibes and everything. That's the same stuff she's telling me that I lack. Clearly my dad doesn't have it because if so it would have made his career very difficult. I do hear that its hereditary though, and that if you have it then more then likely if you have a kid then they will have some varying form of it as well.



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12 May 2018, 5:39 pm

These doctors should have their own websites...or are parts of websites where people rate them.

If they are US doctors, all one has to do is go into the “Office of the Professions” website, and type in the names to verify if they are actual MD doctors.



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12 May 2018, 6:08 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
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Here's the link: https://autismglobalsummit.com/[/b]


It is The Autism Treatment & Recovery Global Summit
Disclaimer from the website
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Disclaimer: This site offers health and wellness information and is designed for educational purposes only. You should not rely on this information as a substitute for, nor does it replace, professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have any concerns or questions about your health, or are making decisions about changing medication or using any product, you should always consult with a physician or other health-care professional. Do not disregard, avoid or delay obtaining medical or health related advice from your health-care professional because of something you may have seen on this site. The education and information presented herein is intended for a general audience and does not purport to be, nor should it be construed as, specific advice tailored to any individual.


When you click on the pictures of the speakers nothing happens. One is not linked to further information or a way to check credentials which is unusual.

“Recovery” is a essentially a synonym for a cure as used in relation to autism.



And? I just skimmed the link & posted it to point out the topics the some of those speakers were speaking about with regards to Autism Treatment and the fact that they are exactly what I have been trying to tell you guys about. I haven't clicked around and seen if the speeches are available and at what cost etc.


Lacking an easy way to contact them or check credentials raises "snake oil salesmen" red flags for me.


I’m sure each of them can be googled and contacted. The website appears to have been setup for the express purpose of live streaming their Autism Treatment Summit, not as a contact reference or credientials/background check page.

Nonetheless, it doesn’t change the fact that several of these people are Doctors and the topics they spoke of at an Autism Treatment Summit are the very same things I’ve been sharing here with WrongPlanet. That was my point. Nothing more, nothing less. You are free to google and contact them as you wish.


Without an easy way to contact them why should I assume they are credentialed doctors?. It is weird that that the doctors would not insist the webpage would not make it easy to contact them with one click.


I didn’t make the website and had zero to do with the summit or it’s topics. Like I said, it appears the page was setup to promote the live stream of the summit and then the sale of the videos afterwards. From a business perspective, it is not weird to omit external links as the idea is to keep people on your website, not direct them to others. Also, like I said, you are free to google and contact any of these people to your heart’s content.


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12 May 2018, 6:12 pm

GF,

I know you mean well, but please be careful giving out your personal information.

You're a valued member here, and no one wants to see you get hurt.


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12 May 2018, 6:14 pm

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I don't know to say whether autism is through the genes or not. My parents don't seem to have it because if they did then it would have been harder for them to function in the outside world. My mom is able to read a person up and down, pick up vibes and everything. That's the same stuff she's telling me that I lack. Clearly my dad doesn't have it because if so it would have made his career very difficult. I do hear that its hereditary though, and that if you have it then more then likely if you have a kid then they will have some varying form of it as well.


Mmhmm. It may be partially genetic, but another thing we inherit is our gut flora. I believe that this is the root cause of many peoples’ ASD symptoms. Our gut flora can also be altered dramatically early on in life via antibiotics given to infants to treat infections. This is why there is probable evidence that ear infections are very common in ASD babies - it’s the life saving antibiotics we’re administered over and over shortly after birth that “gut,” our guts & destroy the intestinal fortitude we would otherwise possess.

I am curious if you were given a lot of antibiotics as a baby for ear or other infections? I believe this is a part of the explanation of how some people end up on the spectrum despite their parents not displaying signs or symptoms of ASD.


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12 May 2018, 6:18 pm

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GF,

I know you mean well, but please be careful giving out your personal information.

You're a valued member here, and no one wants to see you get hurt.


I appreciate and respect your concern. I am an intelligent man and also physically capable of defending myself and others. I pm’d personal information in terms of contact info/Facebook/phone numbers vs posted on the forum and I trust EzraS not to share them publicly. I’m internet savvy and have met many “dates,” via the internet and definitely know how to follow common sense internet safety protocols.

I’m not going to be hurt by EzraS knowing who and where I am. I’ve extended an open invitation for him and his family to come and visit me at my home.

Hell, if you’re nearby, feel free to swing by.


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12 May 2018, 6:50 pm

@EzraS: Feel free to add me on Facebook. You'll see a brand new Sunset photo from Wreck Beach at approximately 20:45. I won't likely be online much tonight if a "friend," comes over, then I will likely have a very early morning as I'm in the middle of making plans with my high school best friend Mark Malone of malonetuning.com to zip over to North Vancouver and do the Grouse Grind tmw morning for Tough Mudder traininng - possibly with both his 10yo daughter (who I messaged you about) and his 6yo son (who I posted about).. and then it'll either be a long hike back down the mountain (like the 6 times I've done it before) Or a tram ride down if we're pressed for time considering Mother's Day dinner plans tmw evening.


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12 May 2018, 7:22 pm

I'm not taking things any further than looking at the cover of a FB page link. Which has a different name and a pic of what looks like a father and child. Or any further than looking a google street view of what looks like a house that belongs to a family with 2 suv's in the driveway. And you already posted the phone number doesn't have your name attached to it, so no need to google it.

Convincing info shouldn't require all kinds of convoluted explanations and steps that have to be taken and so on. It should look legit at face value, which it doesn't to me.



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12 May 2018, 7:24 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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GF,

I know you mean well, but please be careful giving out your personal information.

You're a valued member here, and no one wants to see you get hurt.


I appreciate and respect your concern. I am an intelligent man and also physically capable of defending myself and others. I pm’d personal information in terms of contact info/Facebook/phone numbers vs posted on the forum and I trust EzraS not to share them publicly. I’m internet savvy and have met many “dates,” via the internet and definitely know how to follow common sense internet safety protocols.

I’m not going to be hurt by EzraS knowing who and where I am. I’ve extended an open invitation for him and his family to come and visit me at my home.

Hell, if you’re nearby, feel free to swing by.


I know you're a smart, capable guy. I just don't want you to get hurt.

And I'd love to visit Canada. I was there once when the C-5 I was flying on needed a refuel. It was in the middle of nowhere, but Canadians seem to have less of the "head-up-ass" syndrome that Americans have.

Just do you and shine on. Hopefully, Alex will take you up on your offer.


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12 May 2018, 7:42 pm

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GF,

I know you mean well, but please be careful giving out your personal information.

You're a valued member here, and no one wants to see you get hurt.


I too am deeply worried when members give out identifying information. There are ratbags who can take advantage of this, and if you want it removed, I will be happy to assist though I won't be around until about 6 hours after posting this. Please think it over in terms of the dangers (like identity theft).



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12 May 2018, 7:46 pm

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I'm not taking things any further than looking at the cover of a FB page link. Which has a different name and a pic of what looks like a father and child. Or any further than looking a google street view of what looks like a house that belongs to a family with 2 suv's in the driveway. And you already posted the phone number doesn't have your name attached to it, so no need to google it.

Convincing info shouldn't require all kinds of convoluted explanations and steps that have to be taken and so on. It should look legit at face value, which it doesn't to me.


I told you who I am, why my name is different on my FB, and that the baby in my arms is my youngest God daughter who is now 10 years old. The vehicles in that google street view pic are a 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan (rip) and a 2010 Ford Ranger. The landline is not in my name because it isn’t mine; I rent here. I’ve never had a landline in my name in my life, and like most in my generation and younger, never will.

It’s not convoluted in the least bit. I explained in very simple terms how you can confirm my identity on Facebook and that that is in fact my home address.

Feel free to phone me at the cell number I provided any time you like.


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12 May 2018, 7:50 pm

14.) I remembered on my drive to he beach that there is a WP member on my FB who also uses enemas as a form of self treatment, and has done so on their own accord prior to e-meeting me. I don’t recall their WP name, but I could ask them to post and confirm if you like.


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12 May 2018, 7:52 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
GF,

I know you mean well, but please be careful giving out your personal information.

You're a valued member here, and no one wants to see you get hurt.


I appreciate and respect your concern. I am an intelligent man and also physically capable of defending myself and others. I pm’d personal information in terms of contact info/Facebook/phone numbers vs posted on the forum and I trust EzraS not to share them publicly. I’m internet savvy and have met many “dates,” via the internet and definitely know how to follow common sense internet safety protocols.

I’m not going to be hurt by EzraS knowing who and where I am. I’ve extended an open invitation for him and his family to come and visit me at my home.

Hell, if you’re nearby, feel free to swing by.


I know you're a smart, capable guy. I just don't want you to get hurt.

And I'd love to visit Canada. I was there once when the C-5 I was flying on needed a refuel. It was in the middle of nowhere, but Canadians seem to have less of the "head-up-ass" syndrome that Americans have.

Just do you and shine on. Hopefully, Alex will take you up on your offer.


Appreciate it. I cannot be hurt by this. EzraS wants me to prove my identity and my claims and I will do so transparently. I have no reason to hide behind an internet screen name.


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12 May 2018, 7:56 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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I'm not taking things any further than looking at the cover of a FB page link. Which has a different name and a pic of what looks like a father and child. Or any further than looking a google street view of what looks like a house that belongs to a family with 2 suv's in the driveway. And you already posted the phone number doesn't have your name attached to it, so no need to google it.

Convincing info shouldn't require all kinds of convoluted explanations and steps that have to be taken and so on. It should look legit at face value, which it doesn't to me.


I told you who I am, why my name is different on my FB, and that the baby in my arms is my youngest God daughter who is now 10 years old. The vehicles in that google street view pic are a 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan (rip) and a 2010 Ford Ranger. The landline is not in my name because it isn’t mine; I rent here. I’ve never had a landline in my name in my life, and like most in my generation and younger, never will.

It’s not convoluted in the least bit. I explained in very simple terms how you can confirm my identity on Facebook and that that is in fact my home address.

Feel free to phone me at the cell number I provided any time you like.


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12 May 2018, 7:57 pm

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XFilesGeek wrote:
GF,

I know you mean well, but please be careful giving out your personal information.

You're a valued member here, and no one wants to see you get hurt.


I too am deeply worried when members give out identifying information. There are ratbags who can take advantage of this, and if you want it removed, I will be happy to assist though I won't be around until about 6 hours after posting this. Please think it over in terms of the dangers (like identity theft).


I posted it of me own free will and it can stay into perpetuity.

If EzraS is unwilling or incapable of confirming who and where I am via the information I provided, I will gladly share it with kraftiekortia, Raleigh, auntblabby, alex, or either of you.

No Grouse Grind tmw morning - Mark's wife needs them all home by 10:30am to get ready to go to some lake for Mother’s Day. Maybe next weekend.


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12 May 2018, 8:00 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I'm not taking things any further than looking at the cover of a FB page link. Which has a different name and a pic of what looks like a father and child. Or any further than looking a google street view of what looks like a house that belongs to a family with 2 suv's in the driveway. And you already posted the phone number doesn't have your name attached to it, so no need to google it.

Convincing info shouldn't require all kinds of convoluted explanations and steps that have to be taken and so on. It should look legit at face value, which it doesn't to me.


I told you who I am, why my name is different on my FB, and that the baby in my arms is my youngest God daughter who is now 10 years old. The vehicles in that google street view pic are a 2003 Dodge Grand Caravan (rip) and a 2010 Ford Ranger. The landline is not in my name because it isn’t mine; I rent here. I’ve never had a landline in my name in my life, and like most in my generation and younger, never will.

It’s not convoluted in the least bit. I explained in very simple terms how you can confirm my identity on Facebook and that that is in fact my home address.

Feel free to phone me at the cell number I provided any time you like.


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*shrug* You asked for evidence, I provided it. If you’re too lazy to make a few clicks and scrolls to confirm that’s on you, not me for not providing it.


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