why are self-diagnosed aspies considered "posers?"

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It is sometimes possible in very specific situations to get a diagnosis for free in the US. It is not the norm, and from what I understand, you don't get nearly as good of evaluations. It requires knowing how to go through specific pathways, knowing that its available, requiring those pathways, and so on (for example, the one way I know of being able to get a diagnosis covered is via vocational rehab, but you need to be considered a top priority vocational rehab case, and they need to consider getting you diagnosed beneficial to getting you in the workplace.) Getting diagnosed for free in the US isn't easy, but it is sometimes possible.

Diagnosis is usually expensive. Especially if you're going to the people who are known to be good at it. I went to one of the people who were recommended. It cost $1600 because my insurance refused to pay because they thought it was unnecessary to get me assessed. Not everyone has that money. I was lucky my parents thought it was worth it and had the money.

In my early 20s I've had some of those arguments with NTs.


In my diagnosis, my parents were asked some questions, only with me in the room, and I knew the answers to every one of the questions. I was just too shy to answer them if I didn't have to.

This process of forgetting early childhood is called "Childhood Amnesia". A part of it contains, that the left hemisphere of the brain becomes more dominant. There are also responsible parts for executive function and language and understanding of language. My theory is, that in many autistic people, as they lack executive functioning and have a different perception of language or stay visually thinking this process of left-brain-dominance does not taking place or in a much lesser amount than in non-autistic people which could make autistic people having "another" process of or a much lesser childhood amnesia and therefore remember more or earlier events, as the perception was more tactile and picture-based in early childhood.

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Someone is trolling for sure, but I don't think it's Who_Am_I.

That's not very nice, and in fact the behaviour of " Who am i " is tantamount to trolling.She was very offensive to me. Strange how many females always stick together and get very "in your face".

Okay then, what about this? What if your psychiatrist says that you probably have mild AS and mild OCD but they're just labels and you should just concentrate on your anxiety instead and most of your problems will go away from there? My psychiatrist said that I "probably" have them but they're just labels so don't worry about them.

Since it is a lifelong condition, it should be equally correct to diagnose without knowing any childhood details, and knowing those seems to be unnecessary, unless the diagnoser is heavy on the "no language delay" issue, which seems to be an abandoned approach.

It would be pleasant (for me) to read more about autism for semi-functional adults, and not have this talk of parents and children every time. It was a long time since I was a child, and even though I recognise myself (as a child) in some of these descriptions of the autistic child, they are not relevant for my life now.

AND he offered you drugs, and made a future appointment to see how things are going?

Well yeah, she did the same thing she always does. She asked how things were going, I read off my list of problematic symptoms. She then said what I just previously posted. She asked how I was feeling mood wise on a scale from 1-10 like she always does. She recommends the same anxiety groups as always. Then she refills my prescription and tells me to come back in one month like every other appointment I've been to.

Judging by what happened with me (though I don't seem to have OCD, and am not "mild"), you go along identifying with having "probably having AS and having professional conformation of that" for a while, and then later on, because your situation has changed, you go and you get the diagnosis.

Can you get the help you need currently, without the diagnosis?




The reason the childhood details are used is to make sure it is a lifelong condition in the person being looked at. Other conditions can cause similar symptoms that develop label in life. If someone has the symptoms as an adult, but didn't as a child, it isn't a developmental disorder; it isn't autism.

Yes, I guess I could. I just wanted an official diagnosis just as a kind of relief thing. Like finally, this is what I had that makes me so unique. Then from that point on I could go to support groups and communities and say I have the diagnosis that I knew I had all along. It would probably be easier to get help for certain things as well. I guess it isn't such a big deal though, we don't really have any AS groups where I live anyway.

Remember, while its not as strong of a statement, a professional did tell you that they said you probably had mild AS. That does mean something.

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here in canada it is very difficult to get a diagnosis. i had to pay cash to get an assessment, and it cost me $1000. not everyone has that kind of money.

That's a shame, here in England, my diagnosis was completely free.

I suspect that is one reason why the PDD-NOS label appears so much in adults. If the childhood symptons cannot be reliably identified then you can't apply the Asperger's label, but PDD-NOS can..

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