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12 Dec 2017, 12:39 pm

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IF I was convinced there was a point in making a phone call to the lawyers office to ask for some basic info that they might divulge (If any one of us on here could get them to give any info, it's me. I'm a better salesman than most NT's & have a good professional phone manner whenever required.) I'd make the damn phone call myself from up here in Canada. However, at this point, there's no good reason for me to do it as you've been unable to clarify exactly what info you want or need from the lawyer and more importantly you have no idea what you'd do with the info because you have nowhere to store the stuff. You need to make some decisions about what you're going to do with the stuff before anyone can truly be of any help to you.


Yeah I guess a teenager wouldn't get very far with the lawyer.


Why not? Age isn't a requirement to have a proper phone conversation. Your communications are fine on the forums so I'm sure you'd do just fine with it. The only advantage I may have over you is another couple decades of experience that might allow me to quickly think of what to say to persuade them to give up a little info they may otherwise be reluctant to provide. But in terms of requesting info, you wouldn't have a problem if you had the details and knew what you needed to ask for. My post was more in response to kraftie's saying he's Not the guy to make a phone call than it was to yours.


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12 Dec 2017, 12:45 pm

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IF I was convinced there was a point in making a phone call to the lawyers office to ask for some basic info that they might divulge (If any one of us on here could get them to give any info, it's me. I'm a better salesman than most NT's & have a good professional phone manner whenever required.) I'd make the damn phone call myself from up here in Canada. However, at this point, there's no good reason for me to do it as you've been unable to clarify exactly what info you want or need from the lawyer and more importantly you have no idea what you'd do with the info because you have nowhere to store the stuff. You need to make some decisions about what you're going to do with the stuff before anyone can truly be of any help to you.


Yeah I guess a teenager wouldn't get very far with the lawyer.


Why not? Age isn't a requirement to have a proper phone conversation. Your communications are fine on the forums so I'm sure you'd do just fine with it. The only advantage I may have over you is another couple decades of experience that might allow me to quickly think of what to say to persuade them to give up a little info they may otherwise be reluctant to provide. But in terms of requesting info, you wouldn't have a problem if you had the details and knew what you needed to ask for. My post was more in response to kraftie's saying he's Not the guy to make a phone call than it was to yours.


Well I'm nonverbal so I'd be fielding it through my cousin. And with Liam it might go something like this:



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12 Dec 2017, 12:49 pm

It depends on the lawyer, really.

When you call, you deal with the secretary. The lawyer hardly ever answers the phone.

No lawyer would divulge the actual contents of the property to a complete stranger—teenager, or senior citizen. Especially over the phone. The information, if given at all, would be general, very general, no matter how “professional” the caller sounds. Any conman can sound “professional.”



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12 Dec 2017, 12:49 pm

...Goldfish, you greatly dislike me. Check.
Why don't you just bugger off?
You claim to know what I do - when you know nothing :( .


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12 Dec 2017, 12:50 pm

Oh, yeah. :oops: I knew that.. forgot momentarily I guess. I've only had one cup of coffee today.


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12 Dec 2017, 12:51 pm

Yeah, Ezra...that’ll get the lawyer talking....



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12 Dec 2017, 12:56 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yeah, Ezra...that’ll get the lawyer talking....


It probably only works on school principals.



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12 Dec 2017, 1:01 pm

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...Goldfish, you greatly dislike me. Check.
Why don't you just bugger off?
You claim to know what I do - when you know nothing :( .


I don't even know you to dislike you. I do dislike your terrible attitude, constant complaining, refusal to acknowledge and accept help given and so on.. but you? I've never met you.

Check is right. Someone has to keep your nonsense in check. I'm doing volunteer work to do it so no one here finds themselves being taken advantage of by an internet panhandler trying to get them to pay their hard earned money (whether dollars out of their account or space from their home) to store his stuff that he's never going to go and even see once wherever it ends up.

I'll be offline for much of today - I have work to go do.

I've never claimed to know anything about what you do besides what you post here for all to see.

But what I do know for sure is that whether you recognize it or not you're being an internet panhandler & it's highly inappropriate. No one should be swindled into paying to store your stuff if you can't afford to pay for it yourself. If you can't afford it, then sell or dispose of the stuff. It's that simple.

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12 Dec 2017, 1:14 pm

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That’s an excellent idea.


He should ask the lawyer if the guy can either send the pictures in the regular mail or email them. Even if it's not plausible, like the non-cyber hip lawyer says "what the hell is scanning?", he should at least ask instead of giving up on the idea without asking.



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12 Dec 2017, 1:16 pm

I can almost guarantee you that any lawyer, or the lawyers' secretary, will know about scanning in 2017.

Only an extremely cheap lawyer would not have a scanner these days. This lawyer would probably also have dial phones on his desk, and no answering machine. Scanners are almost always built into printers nowadays.

Of course, should the lawyer not be able to scan, "snail-mail" is the way to go.

It's really easy to scan, by the way. I'm not "cyber-savvy" at all. And I've been scanning for ten years. All I can do on computers, really, is surf the Internet and send Emails. I can do some basic stuff on things like Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel.



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12 Dec 2017, 1:21 pm

EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
That’s an excellent idea.


He should ask the lawyer if the guy can either send the pictures in the regular mail or email them. Even if it's not plausible, like the non-cyber hip lawyer says "what the hell is scanning?", he should at least ask instead of giving up on the idea without asking.


There's a whole lot of good advice ASS-P should at least try before shooting down or giving up on, but then he might have less to complain about & from the looks of things that might cause a disturbance in the force and he might cease to exist at all.


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12 Dec 2017, 1:25 pm

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...I do have regular via-e-mail contact with the lawyer, I gave written him in the last week. I'll write again now.


You should ask the lawyer if he can either send the pictures in the regular mail or email them to you.

Even if seems not plausible, like the non-cyber hip lawyer says "what the hell does emailing photos mean?", you should at least ask, instead of giving up on the idea without asking.

And photographs don't require a storage unit or someone's garage. They're just sheets of paper. The facility you are at might just agree to toss an envelope of photos in a drawer or cabinet for you. Again I think this should be asked for rather than you giving up on the idea without asking.

Just imagine if you got them emailed to you. Then you could look at then to your heart's content on your phone right away. And they'll never get lost or stolen.



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12 Dec 2017, 1:32 pm

Better yet....ASS-P should keep them in his knapsack. He should buy some ziplock bags to protect the documents from the elements. What do you think about that, Ezra?

Travelers to distant lands often buy ziplock bags to keep their important documents (e.g., passports, visas) in as excellent protection.

Really, as I think of it, Emailing is much better than making phone calls these days.



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12 Dec 2017, 1:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I can almost guarantee you that any lawyer, or the lawyers' secretary, will know about scanning in 2017.

Only an extremely cheap lawyer would not have a scanner these days. This lawyer would probably also have dial phones on his desk, and no answering machine. Scanners are almost always built into printers nowadays.

Of course, should the lawyer not be able to scan, "snail-mail" is the way to go.

It's really easy to scan, by the way. I'm not "cyber-savvy" at all. And I've been scanning for ten years. All I can do on computers, really, is surf the Internet and send Emails. I can do some basic stuff on things like Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel.




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12 Dec 2017, 1:39 pm

...I get the impression that the pictures/memoribilia Are alll tightly packed together, that the lawyer/his secretary would not be inclined to take them all out and scan them. I want the physical copies themselves - You know, Goldfish's endless hating against me is really something! He thinks I'm no good, and he decided long ago he was against me.
He doesn't want to have just a few memories, etc, of my younger years & family. :cry: (when life was at least in front of me instead behind me :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: )
I'd like both the paper of the p/m. and on-line versions as well (+ The other stuff) - but I don't see how the latter can be accomplished :( .






kortie"]I can almost guarantee you that any lawyer, or the lawyers' secretary, will know about scanning in 2017.

Only an extremely cheap lawyer would not have a scanner these days. This lawyer would probably also have dial phones on his desk, and no answering machine. Scanners are almost always built into printers nowadays.

Of course, should the lawyer not be able to scan, "snail-mail" is the way to go.

It's really easy to scan, by the way. I'm not "cyber-savvy" at all. And I've been scanning for ten years. All I can do on computers, really, is surf the Internet and send Emails. I can do some basic stuff on things like Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel.[/quote]


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12 Dec 2017, 1:40 pm

EzraS wrote:
ASS-P wrote:
...I do have regular via-e-mail contact with the lawyer, I gave written him in the last week. I'll write again now.


You should ask the lawyer if he can either send the pictures in the regular mail or email them to you.

Even if seems not plausible, like the non-cyber hip lawyer says "what the hell does emailing photos mean?", you should at least ask, instead of giving up on the idea without asking.

And photographs don't require a storage unit or someone's garage. They're just sheets of paper. The facility you are at might just agree to toss an envelope of photos in a drawer or cabinet for you. Again I think this should be asked for rather than you giving up on the idea without asking.

Just imagine if you got them emailed to you. Then you could look at then to your heart's content on your phone right away. And they'll never get lost or stolen.


Definitely worth asking the lawyer, probably not so much the shelter/rehab place.

The lawyers will have a scanner as well as an envelope and a stamp.

Shelters/rehab places tend to have pretty strict no storage policies for good reason. They see a very high volume of clients come through their doors and many of them are (clinically speaking) hoarders. They don't have space to waste storying stuff for clients. Every square foot is used to provide the essentials of shelter/food etc. Usually the only storage space might be a very temporary locker while you're showering or something like that - small space, rapid turnover - not for the indefinite storage of stuff that past clients are unlikely to ever come and retrieve.

Still, he could ask. But for those reasons I'd expect a very firm No.


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