Treatment of High Functioning Vs Lower Functioning on W.P
Teach51
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Unrelated to any particular poster, as it is my thread, I come with a plea from the heart to the moderators to help
silence the voices of trolls, references to trolls, quotations from trolls posts from other platforms, citing graphic, negative detailed posts
about attacks on comorbidities and mental conditions that members suffer from. Without realising it, however well intentioned, summarizing troll's posts is just as triggering as if it were directed at you real time. Discussing trolls and detailing their venomous posts (trolls who are actually the most damaging mental condition in cyberspace), perpetuates the negativity and expands their exposure and gives them validation. I request that no graphically detailed trolling posts from other platforms related to mental conditions be posted here ( for obvious reasons) and would like to suggest that the mods consider restricting such detailed troll quotations and posts on the Forum in general unless of course someone has been hurt by trolls personally and wishes to discuss it and seek support. Doing so has no different effect to the actual trolls original post, feels the same, hurts the same, triggers the same, the effect is exactly the same. I did ask for for the emphasis to be on positive suggestions. Repeating disgusting posts from trolls can and maybe even has triggered members with such conditions to feel attacked. Let's not celebrate trolls, relate to trolls and their disgusting ways by reposting and perpetuating their socipathic content repeatedly. This is also advice to anyone who is afraid of trolls or been hurt by trolls those who see trolls as significant or powerful, they really are not, they are sick, distorted souls who aim only to create pain and distress resulting from their own hollowness. They really are to be pitied not feared. If a troll targets and attacks you always remember they are the weaker ones and brush them off as such. In fact pity them and wish them recovery. Just my opinion and again no-one here is trolling but trolls and their posts and methods have been referred to on this thread, which is highly unsuitable IMO and trolls are so negative why even relate to them. That being said I am certain that there has been no malicious intent. Even if one person has been triggered by these detailed posts from trolls is reason enough to exclude them. I can only suggest. We all want everyone to feel better in some way by coming here don't we?
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I can't comment because Teach wants to get back to business.
Errr,
D'oh!


Teach51
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I can't comment because Teach wants to get back to business.
Errr,
D'oh!


It's relevant. Say it.
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I can't comment because Teach wants to get back to business.
Errr,
D'oh!


It's relevant. Say it.
I could be wrong, since I didn't read the entire thread comprehensively,
But,

I seem to be getting mixed messages from Fnord.

Is it "Spitts" or "Swallows", Mr Fnord?
I don't expect a reply, from him, btw.

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I actually think I understand. Pepe you said in a previous post that you once thought everyone thought the same way that you did, me too, for many years. I was born an optimist and really resilient. I always used to be impatient with and intolerant of friends who couldn't regroup and fix their problems and would plead with me to help them. I never realised then that my ability to survive and thrive against all odds and reinvent myself after major crises and trauma is actually the exception rather than the norm. I think Fnord has this unusual ability also. A refusal to allow life to defeat our spirit. Nursing and teaching have taught me that each person deals with adversity differently and they are set at a certain, constant default. Accepting that fact gave me more empathy and the ability to offer assistance without judgement.
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I had no idea other people don't go through the nearly-impossible intellectual analysis, planning and careful acting I did all the time to appear normal.
I learned it in my early thirties
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It enabled your achievement, but paradoxically caused you to pay the price in other ways.
Definitely. My story is rather known on WP - I had some significant success in various fields and struggled with depression-like mental health issues since about 10yo. When it all collapsed at 30, I narrowly escaped being swept into psychiatric mistreatment for the rest of my life.
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We are working on how to understand and respect that other people have different capabilities and are analyzing how we can implement our discernments on WP to make it a supportive, accepting, non-judgemental and pleasant platform for everyone.
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Everyone except for the bad guys

But who are the trolls to silence, who are the blunt autists not getting subtleties of human interactions, who are the malicious manipulants, who are the ones in need of help and support...?
It takes time to determine and you can always end up wrong.
I've seen a lot of miscommunications here, especially when someone blunt meets someone easily triggered - no villain in the story but a lot of suffering can stem from it.
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Further, one can be blunt on some topics and more aware of the nuances involve in discussing other topics, meaning one poster can fulfil both of those roles in different interactions.
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Further, one can be blunt on some topics and more aware of the nuances involve in discussing other topics, meaning one poster can fulfil both of those roles in different interactions.
Definitely, there are people simultanously easily triggered and blunt on WP.
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Everyone except for the bad guys

But who are the trolls to silence, who are the blunt autists not getting subtleties of human interactions, who are the malicious manipulants, who are the ones in need of help and support...?
It takes time to determine and you can always end up wrong.
I've seen a lot of miscommunications here, especially when someone blunt meets someone easily triggered - no villain in the story but a lot of suffering can stem from it.
I have a feeling everyone is trying to understand.
Now, regarding trolls, restricting the areas of access and giving clear guidelines monitoring lengthy potentially distressing tales of horror from trolls, especially avoiding " a troll said anyone who blah blah blah is a blah blah blah."
Create a thread specifically for grievances relating to trolls and tales of horror?
Or articles that have negative, vindictive and harmful content relating to debilitating mental issues. Put a virtual fence around such posts so everyone has the choice whether to be exposed to such negativity or not. Trolls will always pollute our lives, they are endemic pathogens like viruses.
Protect everyone simply by saying that any discussions or elaboration of content or malicious articles (who would want to read them?) should be separated in an isolated section.
There can be advice on how to deal with trolls, spot trolls, ignore trolls, examples of troll deviousness, troll awareness. Members will get used to discussing trolls in a specific section and it will be sparing the majority who avoid negativity of having to be involuntarily exposed to it.
I am not talking about the interaction of two members having an argument. I don't think that is trolling, it is a spontanious triggered response. If we see one person continously and persistently attacking the same person then that can be assumed to be trolling with malicious intent.
If I would be severely obese (I am not) and someone wrote in a thread about improving diversity tolerance "I read this troll who said obese people are the scum of the earth, and they are narcissists and rubbish and disgusting, isn't that terrible?"
That is actually as harmful as trolling, it may be trolling carefully camouflaged, it's difficult to know, trolls are always inventing insidious ways to filter through the rules. So....whether innocent or deliberate, keep such second hand tales of horror separate then we won't have forced exposure to them. Why should anyone on a thread such as this, for example, be suddenly exposed to a descriptive article specifically regarding her own mental struggles, comparing her condition to narcissists or abusive people or any other negative comparison? If such things are carefully compartmentalized then everyone will have the privilege and protection of being able to choose exposure to explosive content or not. Just like PPR and News & Current events. I find it disturbing, it is clearly defined and segregated, I avoid it like the plague.
I even have a name for the thread.
The Trolling Tales Of Horror Thread. Not For The Faint Hearted.
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