For those that believe ASD is Only hard wired/genetic

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So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.

You think I was BSing in some sort of forum debate showdown. My invitation to come for dinner was, and remains, genuine. I accept your mother's self research as being an expert-of-sorts but also welcome any other you'd like to bring. (dad, doc, whomever. DadS would be a good person to bring - I think I told you a couple of years ago that from the few stories you've shared about him, he's the kind of guy I'd like to buy a beer.) While I am very HF, I cannot fake the prosody of my voice, vocabulary, lack of eye contact at times (minimal compared to other times in my life, but I still catch myself doing it so I know it happens) or the gait to my step when I walk & a bunch of other subtle things. I've been extremely transparent on WP with what I have learned and done save for some minor tweaks to things, but to hear them from my voice live in person will be to hear that they are in fact true - not a lie, not a fraud, not snake oil, not a hoax.

There are phony FB accounts, yes. But I didn't invent a time machine and go back a ~decade and make this one just to create a ~10 year long timeline to support everything I've shared here over the last 6 years. Everything is there. Rants/raves/frustrations 6 years ago, various jobs I've shared about, people in my life, kiteboarding (which I had a several year hiatus from due to my health - note the time gap) Tough Mudder, parties, beaches etc all the things I've done each of the last few years of having ASD under control - everything. Some of the photos I've shared there I've shared here - kiteboarding, Sunsets at Wreck Beach, the first tattoo I got started last November that isn't finished yet. I, and everything I've shared about, am/is 100% verifiable with very little digging.

The "Not sure if serious or trolling," bit is in reference to your request that I film videos of myself. Ummm, you're concnerned about your ability to remain anonymous behind a blank FB account (as I suggested) and you're asking me to film myself and put it on the internet for you? Not sure if serious.. or just trying to make me look foolish. Yes, I did offer for alex to come and turn is camera on - he's a filmmaker, it's what he does. I am not a filmmaker, nor an actor or model in the least bit. You'll note from my FB account that I think my face is in about 3 or 4 pictures from last year and that's a L O T for me - and 2 of those pics were selfies I snapped only because of the input from a social medial gay boy who was all like "you should have more current pictures etc," so I snapped one shortly after shaving off my long beard, and another after a kiteboarding session that I posted with the caption "This is my just got blown for a couple hours face! " or something to that effect. I'm not a photogenic person. That's not my role. I'm an autistic man who snaps pictures of the Sunset almost every dry night & tries not to have any humans in them at all. I have never once filmed myself and posted it to youtube for anything. I do have a youtube account, though, and iirc it's "dickewing," or something like that, further proof that my name is what I say it is. You want video evidence that I am who belongs to that FB account? When I glance down from my screen to my keyboard I see the tattoo of waves/sun on my left wrist - I could film that with my iphone in my right hand while my left hand hunts and pecks to make a post here & post a Facebook status in another tab from the account that I told you is mine. Cross reference it to the tattoo photo I shared in cube's thread here: viewtopic.php?t=357974 (however, it seems Facebook kills the link after so long for hotlinking outside of Facebook - but the url should match. Same here, not sure why the image is dead and others aren't? http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic ... 6&start=15 You can also see the pic I shared of the rainbow mohawk I had a couple years ago in this thread here: (not sure why it still works?) http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic ... 6&start=15 and confirm it to the Facebook account by searching "Does this haircut make me look gay?" where you'll find when I posted it there first.

You want me to try filming my left hand making a post here & a FB status update in the next tab from the account I've told you is mine? That I can try. (I say try because I have never filmed anything nor uploaded it to youtube - brand new territory for me, but I'm okay with learning and doing new things.)

Am I in The Twilight Zone?

This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.

Yes, 100% for sure.

Its not a brain that thinks. Thinking is not the only thing the nervous system does, nor is it the main reason it evolved in the first place. Its main purpose in most species is coordination of the body organs and or simple stimulus response. The parts of the brain that are different in autism are all in the brain inside your skull.

My experience says otherwise. It's intricately linked to the enteric nervous system that extends from mouth to anus, and it's functions, which are directly influenced via gut flora.

However, as a man of science, I am open to reviewing the evidence of your claims. Please, by all means, cite the sources of your claim and I'll be glad to read them.

Even if everything you say is true, it still wouldn't matter to me. Like I said before, I'm not ashamed of what I am, and I don't aspire to be NT. In fact, I view NTs by and large to be detestible lying snakes without any honesty. Why should I want to be like them? As I see it, they are sick and need to change.

I know that when I get a stomachache, my "functioning" becomes of less quality.

There is also the third brain ~ 'What's really fascinating is that the heart contains a little brain in its own right. ... In fact, the heart's complex intrinsic nervous system, the heart brain, is an intricate network of several types of neurons, neurotransmitters, proteins and support cells, like those found in the brain proper' ~ Let Your Heart Talk to Your Brain | HuffPost.

One of the things for most people is that they are using predominantly their intestinal or gut brain, and the cerebral or head brain is essentially in latent support mode ~ hence scientists have been trying to work out why. There was an article in the New Scientist some years back now, where one specialist found that 0.4 % of the brain was actively being used, and that the percentile he used had been rounded up, alot.

No I wasn't trolling or playing dance monkey dance or anything else of the sort. I was making a very practical suggestion to put an end to all of the "I'm real and I can prove it" nonsense.

It seems that my suggesting the simplest most basic and best straight forward irrefutable way for you to show that you're "100% transparent" and will "do whatever it takes to prove that" etc claims - that doesn't involve "if you do this and you do that" action taken by others - has caused you a great deal of panic.

It's the way you have shared it and the way that you have presented yourself that's always been the problem - like so many have been telling you to no avail for years and years.

A Science Daily Report for discussion perhaps?

Treating autism by targeting the gut

Date: June 19, 2017
Source: Frontiers
Summary: Therapies to change the bacteria in the gut, through
diet, pro-and prebiotic supplements, fecal matter transplants or
antibiotics, could treat autism. A review of six decades of
research linking the gut to brain development could pave the
way for cheap and effective treatment.

With pertinent bit seemingly being:

What causes infants to develop an imbalance in the gut micro-
biota?

"ASD is likely to be a result of both genetic and environmental
factors" explains Dr Li. "The environmental factors include the
overuse of antibiotics in babies, maternal obesity and diabetes
during pregnancy, how a baby is delivered and how long it is
breastfed. All of these can affect the balance of bacteria in an
infant's gut, so are risk factors for ASD."

However, the researchers found a significant body of evidence
that reverting the gut microbiota to a healthy state can reduce
ASD symptoms.

"Efforts to restore the gut microbiota to that of a healthy person
has been shown to be really effective" continues Dr Li. "Our
review looked at taking probiotics, prebiotics, changing the diet --
for example, to gluten- and casein-free diets, and faecal matter
transplants. All had a positive impact on symptoms ."

These include such things as increased sociability, a reduction in
repetitive behaviour, and improved social communication: all
hugely beneficial to the life of an ASD sufferer.

The message of this review is one of positivity. This could well be
a breakthrough in the treatment of this disorder. However, the
researchers believe that the studies are too few and too small, and
that new clinical trials are needed to take this research to the next
level.

"We are encouraged by our findings, but there is no doubt that
further work needs to be carried out in this field" says Dr Li. "We
need more well-designed and larger-scale studies to support our
theory. For now, behavioural therapies remain the best way to treat
ASD. We would hope that our review leads to research on the link
between the gut microbiota and ASD, and eventually a cheap and
effective treatment."

One of the simplest methodologies for repopulating the gut microbiota is something called Sauerkraut, as is used in parts of Europe as a basic staple, and is thought to have originated from China, on account of Mongolian migration. I gave it a therapeutic trial involving some really expensive organic gut-fantasia stuff, which was thoroughly gorgeous, this time last year.

I normally give myself a little go on something, and then some time later, if my body likes it ~ it won't let me forget about it.

So I am in the process now of working out how to fit getting Sauerkraut into my shopping routine, without stressing myself out too much.

I got given the last pot as part of a trial one of my Aspergian friends suggested I take part in also, but I did not go to the therapy centre myself personally ~ so new environment and first meet of people stress-session a bit there. Well worth it though methinks.

As a back up ~ the much more local Polish supermarket was also suggested by my friend, which he uses as alternative.

"Efforts to restore the gut microbiota to that of a healthy person
has been shown to be really effective" continues Dr Li. "Our
review looked at taking probiotics, prebiotics, changing the diet --
for example, to gluten- and casein-free diets, and faecal matter
transplants. All had a positive impact on symptoms ."

I must state here, what with the ~ 'once you have met one autistic person; you have met one autistic person' ~ thing; that with milk related probiotics ~ my body really does not get on with them well one bit at all. One particular nasty for me is something called Kefir ~ which agonises my taste-buds and nose-buds immensely, like blue cheeses such as Stilton etc.

On the mega heavenly vibe for me though is the fermented tea Kombucha, which Wikipedia describes in part as follows:

Kombucha (also tea mushroom, Manchurian mushroom, formal name: Medusomyces gisevii) is a variety of fermented, lightly effervescent sweetened black or green tea drinks commonly intended as functional beverages for their supposed health benefits. Kombucha is produced by fermenting tea using a "symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast" (SCOBY). Microbial populations in SCOBY cultures vary. The yeast component generally includes Saccharomyces and other species, and the bacterial component almost always includes Gluconacetobacter xylinus to oxidize yeast-produced alcohols to acetic and other acids.

They have had me on a certain diet of sorts which includes probiotics for years. Probably why I don't have any bowel issues other autistics do. I can't say it's made any kind of significant breakthrough for me but I believe it makes things better for me. I think I would be functioning more poorly if I was just consuming junk food and was not taking vitamins and supplements. But that's probably the case for everyone autistic or not.

btw just as a reminder, I deleted the two PM you sent me and cleared my browser history so I have no way to access your FB page or anything else you keep trying to get me to do. If you send me any other PM I will just delete them unopened. soz.