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15 May 2018, 1:52 pm
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A Science Daily Report for discussion perhaps?
Treating autism by targeting the gut
Date: June 19, 2017
Source: Frontiers
Summary: Therapies to change the bacteria in the gut, through
diet, pro-and prebiotic supplements, fecal matter transplants or
antibiotics, could treat autism. A review of six decades of
research linking the gut to brain development could pave the
way for cheap and effective treatment.
With pertinent bit seemingly being:
What causes infants to develop an imbalance in the gut micro-
biota?
"ASD is likely to be a result of both genetic and environmental
factors" explains Dr Li. "The environmental factors include the
overuse of antibiotics in babies, maternal obesity and diabetes
during pregnancy, how a baby is delivered and how long it is
breastfed. All of these can affect the balance of bacteria in an
infant's gut, so are risk factors for ASD."
However, the researchers found a significant body of evidence
that reverting the gut microbiota to a healthy state can reduce
ASD symptoms.
"Efforts to restore the gut microbiota to that of a healthy person
has been shown to be really effective" continues Dr Li. "Our
review looked at taking probiotics, prebiotics, changing the diet --
for example, to gluten- and casein-free diets, and faecal matter
transplants. All had a positive impact on symptoms ."
These include such things as increased sociability, a reduction in
repetitive behaviour, and improved social communication: all
hugely beneficial to the life of an ASD sufferer.
The message of this review is one of positivity. This could well be
a breakthrough in the treatment of this disorder. However, the
researchers believe that the studies are too few and too small, and
that new clinical trials are needed to take this research to the next
level.
"We are encouraged by our findings, but there is no doubt that
further work needs to be carried out in this field" says Dr Li. "We
need more well-designed and larger-scale studies to support our
theory. For now, behavioural therapies remain the best way to treat
ASD. We would hope that our review leads to research on the link
between the gut microbiota and ASD, and eventually a cheap and
effective treatment."
One of the simplest methodologies for repopulating the gut microbiota is something called Sauerkraut, as is used in parts of Europe as a basic staple, and is thought to have originated from China, on account of Mongolian migration. I gave it a therapeutic trial involving some really expensive organic gut-fantasia stuff, which was thoroughly gorgeous, this time last year.
I normally give myself a little go on something, and then some time later, if my body likes it ~ it won't let me forget about it.
So I am in the process now of working out how to fit getting Sauerkraut into my shopping routine, without stressing myself out too much.
I got given the last pot as part of a trial one of my Aspergian friends suggested I take part in also, but I did not go to the therapy centre myself personally ~ so new environment and first meet of people stress-session a bit there. Well worth it though methinks.
As a back up ~ the much more local Polish supermarket was also suggested by my friend, which he uses as alternative.
Treating autism by targeting the gut
Date: June 19, 2017
Source: Frontiers
Summary: Therapies to change the bacteria in the gut, through
diet, pro-and prebiotic supplements, fecal matter transplants or
antibiotics, could treat autism. A review of six decades of
research linking the gut to brain development could pave the
way for cheap and effective treatment.
With pertinent bit seemingly being:
What causes infants to develop an imbalance in the gut micro-
biota?
"ASD is likely to be a result of both genetic and environmental
factors" explains Dr Li. "The environmental factors include the
overuse of antibiotics in babies, maternal obesity and diabetes
during pregnancy, how a baby is delivered and how long it is
breastfed. All of these can affect the balance of bacteria in an
infant's gut, so are risk factors for ASD."
However, the researchers found a significant body of evidence
that reverting the gut microbiota to a healthy state can reduce
ASD symptoms.
"Efforts to restore the gut microbiota to that of a healthy person
has been shown to be really effective" continues Dr Li. "Our
review looked at taking probiotics, prebiotics, changing the diet --
for example, to gluten- and casein-free diets, and faecal matter
transplants. All had a positive impact on symptoms ."
These include such things as increased sociability, a reduction in
repetitive behaviour, and improved social communication: all
hugely beneficial to the life of an ASD sufferer.
The message of this review is one of positivity. This could well be
a breakthrough in the treatment of this disorder. However, the
researchers believe that the studies are too few and too small, and
that new clinical trials are needed to take this research to the next
level.
"We are encouraged by our findings, but there is no doubt that
further work needs to be carried out in this field" says Dr Li. "We
need more well-designed and larger-scale studies to support our
theory. For now, behavioural therapies remain the best way to treat
ASD. We would hope that our review leads to research on the link
between the gut microbiota and ASD, and eventually a cheap and
effective treatment."
One of the simplest methodologies for repopulating the gut microbiota is something called Sauerkraut, as is used in parts of Europe as a basic staple, and is thought to have originated from China, on account of Mongolian migration. I gave it a therapeutic trial involving some really expensive organic gut-fantasia stuff, which was thoroughly gorgeous, this time last year.
I normally give myself a little go on something, and then some time later, if my body likes it ~ it won't let me forget about it.
So I am in the process now of working out how to fit getting Sauerkraut into my shopping routine, without stressing myself out too much.
I got given the last pot as part of a trial one of my Aspergian friends suggested I take part in also, but I did not go to the therapy centre myself personally ~ so new environment and first meet of people stress-session a bit there. Well worth it though methinks.
As a back up ~ the much more local Polish supermarket was also suggested by my friend, which he uses as alternative.
THIS is EXACTLY what I have been telling this forum for the last ~5 years since I figured it out and how to alter my own gut flora in order to achieve, what I referred to back then & stand by now, "MIRACULOUS RESULTS," because there are no two better words to describe what I experienced with this medicine, these organs/tissues, the process I described, and the results I've achieved.
Do you have any contact information for the Dr. Li mentioned in this article? I'd like to share what I've learned and done as it may accelerate his/her learning curve & result in better treatments for patients.
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15 May 2018, 1:58 pm
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btw just as a reminder, I deleted the two PM you sent me and cleared my browser history so I have no way to access your FB page or anything else you keep trying to get me to do. If you send me any other PM I will just delete them unopened. soz.
Now I know you're trolling. You tell me to change my approach and provide evidence. I do exactly that, offer full transparency, whatever medical records/appointments/documents you want, and you say you won't even review it. You no longer have any valid arguments against me whatsoever. You are intellectually precocious, but incredibly immature considering your refusal to even look at the evidence you've asked for. But I still don't hate you & you and your family are still welcome at my dinner table whenever it's mutually convenient, as I am still telling the exact same 100% complete and whole truth that I have been for the last 5 years and have no qualms about a live in person discussion. Hell, stay home & send your mom if she's the family ASD expert. It's a bit of a long drive; we have a guest room.
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15 May 2018, 2:07 pm
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I believe things that promote good health helps autism.
RainbowUnion wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
There are over 100 million brain cells in your gut, as many as there are in the head of a cat.
Yes. Its viewed by some scientists as a second brain.
Raleigh wrote:
So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.
Am I in The Twilight Zone?
This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.
Its not a brain that thinks. Thinking is not the only thing the nervous system does, nor is it the main reason it evolved in the first place. Its main purpose in most species is coordination of the body organs and or simple stimulus response. The parts of the brain that are different in autism are all in the brain inside your skull.
My experience says otherwise. It's intricately linked to the enteric nervous system that extends from mouth to anus, and it's functions, which are directly influenced via gut flora.
However, as a man of science, I am open to reviewing the evidence of your claims. Please, by all means, cite the sources of your claim and I'll be glad to read them.
Even if everything you say is true, it still wouldn't matter to me. Like I said before, I'm not ashamed of what I am, and I don't aspire to be NT. In fact, I view NTs by and large to be detestible lying snakes without any honesty who have accomplished nothing unless you count Naziism. Why should I want to be like them? As I see it, they are sick and need to change.
100% of everything I say is true, and that's fine if it doesn't matter to you. I just don't quite get your anti-treatment campaign in the sense that you think treatment options should not exist for others who want them. Am I NT? No. But I am no longer constrained from working/living/playing in the social world by ASD. I'm still not a liar. I'm still almost always "honest to a fault," like so many Aspies. (To the extent that it's cost me a LOT of money. :/ But such is life.)
Here's a story just for you that I've never shared here, but I think you'll understand me better for hearing it:
I know a couple of other gay Aspies IRL. One of them is an acquaintance - he's a biologist at some sort of biological sample testing laboratory. The other is a friend of mine - one of my closest friends. Years ago I brought his diagnosis to his attention in a letter I wrote to him and explained how so much of our friendship was based on some of our mutual interests and how our conversations could not have possibly been more stereotypical of two Aspies discussing a special interest. He's well aware of what I do to treat myself and how it's changed me for the better. His mentality is that "some people are just different," and that he doesn't need a label for it, nor to research it at all, nor to treat it. Years ago I tried to talk to him more about it, but he made it clear he didn't want to talk about it at all, ever. So, I never bring it up - I haven't for years. He's content doing his thing & self medicating with marijuana and just being himself. His symptoms have never been life crippling like mine, so I understand that he's never hit such a low rock bottom that would make him want to do the anything I'm willing to do to treat myself. But he doesn't tell me I shouldn't want to treat myself or share the info with others. We have a mutual understanding that this is my thing, and that's his, and our friendship remains incredibly strong even though we don't see each other often.
I persist and share here, not for you, but for those who've suffered like myself and want to change that.
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15 May 2018, 2:09 pm
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I know that when I get a stomachache, my "functioning" becomes of less quality.
Other members here have disclosed the same - one in particular comes to mind w/ a few posts he's made. If I can dig them up I'll quote them here.
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15 May 2018, 2:10 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I believe things that promote good health helps autism.
RainbowUnion wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
There are over 100 million brain cells in your gut, as many as there are in the head of a cat.
Yes. Its viewed by some scientists as a second brain.
Raleigh wrote:
So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.
Am I in The Twilight Zone?
This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.
It's the way you have shared it and the way that you have presented yourself that's always been the problem - like so many have been telling you to no avail for years and years.
In plain English as the 100% complete and whole transparent truth of what I've learned, done, and experienced?
Would you have preferred I lied, instead?
I'm not sure when telling the truth went out of fashion.. so call me old fashioned, I guess. *shrug*
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15 May 2018, 2:14 pm
15 May 2018, 3:35 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I believe things that promote good health helps autism.
RainbowUnion wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
There are over 100 million brain cells in your gut, as many as there are in the head of a cat.
Yes. Its viewed by some scientists as a second brain.
Raleigh wrote:
So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.
Am I in The Twilight Zone?
This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.
Its not a brain that thinks. Thinking is not the only thing the nervous system does, nor is it the main reason it evolved in the first place. Its main purpose in most species is coordination of the body organs and or simple stimulus response. The parts of the brain that are different in autism are all in the brain inside your skull.
My experience says otherwise. It's intricately linked to the enteric nervous system that extends from mouth to anus, and it's functions, which are directly influenced via gut flora.
However, as a man of science, I am open to reviewing the evidence of your claims. Please, by all means, cite the sources of your claim and I'll be glad to read them.
Even if everything you say is true, it still wouldn't matter to me. Like I said before, I'm not ashamed of what I am, and I don't aspire to be NT. In fact, I view NTs by and large to be detestible lying snakes without any honesty who have accomplished nothing unless you count Naziism. Why should I want to be like them? As I see it, they are sick and need to change.
100% of everything I say is true, and that's fine if it doesn't matter to you. I just don't quite get your anti-treatment campaign in the sense that you think treatment options should not exist for others who want them. Am I NT? No. But I am no longer constrained from working/living/playing in the social world by ASD. I'm still not a liar. I'm still almost always "honest to a fault," like so many Aspies. (To the extent that it's cost me a LOT of money. :/ But such is life.)
Here's a story just for you that I've never shared here, but I think you'll understand me better for hearing it:
I know a couple of other gay Aspies IRL. One of them is an acquaintance - he's a biologist at some sort of biological sample testing laboratory. The other is a friend of mine - one of my closest friends. Years ago I brought his diagnosis to his attention in a letter I wrote to him and explained how so much of our friendship was based on some of our mutual interests and how our conversations could not have possibly been more stereotypical of two Aspies discussing a special interest. He's well aware of what I do to treat myself and how it's changed me for the better. His mentality is that "some people are just different," and that he doesn't need a label for it, nor to research it at all, nor to treat it. Years ago I tried to talk to him more about it, but he made it clear he didn't want to talk about it at all, ever. So, I never bring it up - I haven't for years. He's content doing his thing & self medicating with marijuana and just being himself. His symptoms have never been life crippling like mine, so I understand that he's never hit such a low rock bottom that would make him want to do the anything I'm willing to do to treat myself. But he doesn't tell me I shouldn't want to treat myself or share the info with others. We have a mutual understanding that this is my thing, and that's his, and our friendship remains incredibly strong even though we don't see each other often.
I persist and share here, not for you, but for those who've suffered like myself and want to change that.
Well Sparky, I think you just don't get it that most folks here think you are NUTS and don't want to drink your Kool-Aid. That's what it boils down to, and I'm quite sure that Ezra isn't a troll either. Some of your behavior is troll like, but since you do mean what you say neither are you.
15 May 2018, 3:51 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I believe things that promote good health helps autism.
RainbowUnion wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
There are over 100 million brain cells in your gut, as many as there are in the head of a cat.
Yes. Its viewed by some scientists as a second brain.
Raleigh wrote:
So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.
Am I in The Twilight Zone?
This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.
It's the way you have shared it and the way that you have presented yourself that's always been the problem - like so many have been telling you to no avail for years and years.
In plain English as the 100% complete and whole transparent truth of what I've learned, done, and experienced?
Would you have preferred I lied, instead?
I'm not sure when telling the truth went out of fashion.. so call me old fashioned, I guess. *shrug*
The truth presented in an engaging way would be more appealing.
Like, 100% more appealing than what you are doing now.
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15 May 2018, 3:53 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I know that when I get a stomachache, my "functioning" becomes of less quality.
Other members here have disclosed the same - one in particular comes to mind w/ a few posts he's made. If I can dig them up I'll quote them here.
I spent more than an hour trying to find the precise quote I can recall from what I believe was a Haven thread. It was a post where sly279 said that he has both mental disabilities & digestive/stomach/gi issue and "both just keep getting worse
" and my point with that is that these things are happening Lock-Step with one another not only because it's a direct correlation, but because it is 100% cause & effect causation. If sly279 were to completely ignore his "mental," disabilities for a moment and focus solely on healing his digestive issues, the former would take care of itself. I would bet money on this. Hell, I would PAY money for this. I don't dislike sly279. I dislike that he suffers unnecessarily due to his own stubbornness - it's sad, really.Here are a few quotes from sly - as close as I could dig up - feel free to invite him to this conversation to confirm/deny/clarify if you wish.
sly279 wrote:
For the last two years and 5 months me and work have had a understanding of my hours that I can only work 6 hours with a lunch and two breaks or 5 and under and 15-20 hours a week. All my past managers have kept to this. Well they fired my last manager to downsize and the new one is pushing my hours so I went to her to try meet half way instead of 7 hours if I could do 6 1/2 well she said no , she’s having a hard time figuring out all the schedules(funny all the last ones didn’t have any issue) and that I’ll need a doctors note. So I went to talk to her and the hr lady’s going try to work it out with her but said making it an official ada accommodation would help. So now I gotta make a doctor appointment. I wish I’d just done it with the other accommodation but they just hand a understanding that with my disability. So sucks. Guess I can get my stomach checked again I’ve had this issue for almost a year now. I worry though as my doctor is conservative and so doesn’t think I should have ssdi if I working. So if he doesn’t do it I’ll have to try to find a therapist who understands disability. I get ssdi but if I make over 1,180 I’ll los it and my work is where one week they’d make me work 30 hours and another it’ll be 8 or some people have had a single shift of 5 hours for a week. I can’t lose ssdi as I won’t have enough to survive
But, unfortunately he also thinks this - damn it, foiled by the inferior search engine.. I SWEAR sly279 said nearly the identical thing to this post to me in another thread, but I can't find it. He can confirm if his memory recall allows.
drwho222 wrote:
Not a chance in hell. Hes a television personality FSS. Of course you think that autism comes from poop bacteria and that big pharma has some conspiracy to keep everyone sick so who cares what you think.
Yes, I do know this. And I maintain that Big Pharma is an industry designed to treat symptoms & maintain lifelong customers, not an industry created to heal people until they are healthy and cut off their source of revenues & profits. One does not even require the business school education I have to realize this.
Don't take my word for it. Listen to the words of an ex-pharmaceutical sales rep:
But sly279 also fully admits this as he's as transparent about himself as I am:
sly279 wrote:
Her generalizing incels is right?
I’ve never claimed to be intelligent, quite the opposite I accept I’m probably super low intelligent and thus most women won’t like that.
Incels don’t claim anything they don’t do any. Th incel movement or whatever they call themselves may claim stuff just as feminist organization may do stuff. Which is why I should say feminism not feminist. Though it’s quite different since feminist is something you chose but incel is a definition word for a class of men and ?women? Is there a different word for women who are single not by choice? So it’s like blacks vs black life matters. One is a class of people the other is an organization. I think it’s ok to generalize organizations by the actions of their representatives and actions, but it isn’t ok to generalize a class of people. So if she wants to talk about violent incel movements ok, but to talk about incels or talk about incels on this forum isnt ok or it shouldn’t be.
Or as my previous post it should be ok for everyone. But it seems men are only one talked to about it and women are defended when they do it
I’ve never claimed to be intelligent, quite the opposite I accept I’m probably super low intelligent and thus most women won’t like that.
Incels don’t claim anything they don’t do any. Th incel movement or whatever they call themselves may claim stuff just as feminist organization may do stuff. Which is why I should say feminism not feminist. Though it’s quite different since feminist is something you chose but incel is a definition word for a class of men and ?women? Is there a different word for women who are single not by choice? So it’s like blacks vs black life matters. One is a class of people the other is an organization. I think it’s ok to generalize organizations by the actions of their representatives and actions, but it isn’t ok to generalize a class of people. So if she wants to talk about violent incel movements ok, but to talk about incels or talk about incels on this forum isnt ok or it shouldn’t be.
Or as my previous post it should be ok for everyone. But it seems men are only one talked to about it and women are defended when they do it
And this is why it's sad to see him suffer the way that he does & shares about. There are people, besides myself - people who are already Doctors, who can help him & others like him, but he refuses to accept that his physical ailments (gastrointestinal) are causing his "mental," disabilities and that if he'd treat the very real physical digestive issues he'd be a happier, healthier, sly279 for it.
Doctors like the woman who wrote this book that's full of recipes with identical ingredients to the healing foods in the medicinal diet I followed very strictly a few short years ago:
And then there are others, like this post I truncated:
Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
I do wish gut problems weren't standard issue with this, however. I wonder what I might have accomplished, if I hadn't been dealing with the blasted IBS for my entire working life. Since the most effective Tx available to me back then was sedating, I'd work a standard workday, then come home and fall over, basically. My cats loved that, but nobody else did. And I know a lot of us have dealt or are dealing with similar GI issues.
Or other members like ASS-P & CockneyRebel who have been transparent about having incontinence issues.
And then entire threads devoted to an "anonymous," forum member's smelly gas issues: (which, btw, until 5 or so years ago I had lifelong issues with being excessively gassy - just as others described about themselves and their families in the 14 page discussion that ensued when I posted what I had done with diet/medicine 5 years ago.)
http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=358645
And searches for digestive, gi, intestinal, stomach etc etc on wrongplanet yield MANY results because these things are all interrelated & treating one treats the other. Prove me wrong & I will thank you for teaching me something new.. but my message remains: This is what I learned, this is what I did, these are the results, and all of this can help countless people live better lives. That's it, that's all.
Hmm, maybe I'll see if I can find this "Dr. Li," on the interwebs and make contact. Stranger things have happened.. like some ~30yo Canadian guy figuring out how to treat ASD, for example.
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15 May 2018, 3:56 pm
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Give it up, man. This is just sad. You have no cure for Autism. Nobody does.
Wrong word, my friend. I've been abundantly clear that I don't have a cure.. I don't believe that it can be cured. What I have is an effective treatment protocol that allows me to function extremely highly & to work/live/play in the social world. I feel intuitively socially connected to others and cannot recall the last time I expended any significant mental energy to intellectually process & respond to a social situation. Digestive health & probiotics literally turn on the "social circuitry," that connects people in non-verbal ways and I am living proof.
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15 May 2018, 3:57 pm
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I believe things that promote good health helps autism.
RainbowUnion wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
There are over 100 million brain cells in your gut, as many as there are in the head of a cat.
Yes. Its viewed by some scientists as a second brain.
Raleigh wrote:
So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.
Am I in The Twilight Zone?
This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.
Its not a brain that thinks. Thinking is not the only thing the nervous system does, nor is it the main reason it evolved in the first place. Its main purpose in most species is coordination of the body organs and or simple stimulus response. The parts of the brain that are different in autism are all in the brain inside your skull.
My experience says otherwise. It's intricately linked to the enteric nervous system that extends from mouth to anus, and it's functions, which are directly influenced via gut flora.
However, as a man of science, I am open to reviewing the evidence of your claims. Please, by all means, cite the sources of your claim and I'll be glad to read them.
Even if everything you say is true, it still wouldn't matter to me. Like I said before, I'm not ashamed of what I am, and I don't aspire to be NT. In fact, I view NTs by and large to be detestible lying snakes without any honesty who have accomplished nothing unless you count Naziism. Why should I want to be like them? As I see it, they are sick and need to change.
100% of everything I say is true, and that's fine if it doesn't matter to you. I just don't quite get your anti-treatment campaign in the sense that you think treatment options should not exist for others who want them. Am I NT? No. But I am no longer constrained from working/living/playing in the social world by ASD. I'm still not a liar. I'm still almost always "honest to a fault," like so many Aspies. (To the extent that it's cost me a LOT of money. :/ But such is life.)
Here's a story just for you that I've never shared here, but I think you'll understand me better for hearing it:
I know a couple of other gay Aspies IRL. One of them is an acquaintance - he's a biologist at some sort of biological sample testing laboratory. The other is a friend of mine - one of my closest friends. Years ago I brought his diagnosis to his attention in a letter I wrote to him and explained how so much of our friendship was based on some of our mutual interests and how our conversations could not have possibly been more stereotypical of two Aspies discussing a special interest. He's well aware of what I do to treat myself and how it's changed me for the better. His mentality is that "some people are just different," and that he doesn't need a label for it, nor to research it at all, nor to treat it. Years ago I tried to talk to him more about it, but he made it clear he didn't want to talk about it at all, ever. So, I never bring it up - I haven't for years. He's content doing his thing & self medicating with marijuana and just being himself. His symptoms have never been life crippling like mine, so I understand that he's never hit such a low rock bottom that would make him want to do the anything I'm willing to do to treat myself. But he doesn't tell me I shouldn't want to treat myself or share the info with others. We have a mutual understanding that this is my thing, and that's his, and our friendship remains incredibly strong even though we don't see each other often.
I persist and share here, not for you, but for those who've suffered like myself and want to change that.
Well Sparky, I think you just don't get it that most folks here think you are NUTS and don't want to drink your Kool-Aid. That's what it boils down to, and I'm quite sure that Ezra isn't a troll either. Some of your behavior is troll like, but since you do mean what you say neither are you.
And that is precisely why I've said that you people here make me feel like Ignaz Semmelweis for telling you all the facts I know to be true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis
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15 May 2018, 4:00 pm
Raleigh wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I believe things that promote good health helps autism.
RainbowUnion wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
There are over 100 million brain cells in your gut, as many as there are in the head of a cat.
Yes. Its viewed by some scientists as a second brain.
Raleigh wrote:
So it makes sense that the health of your gut can affect the brain.
Am I in The Twilight Zone?
This is what I've been sharing here for 5 years; only more specifically: Treat the gut root cause, control the ASD symptoms.
It's the way you have shared it and the way that you have presented yourself that's always been the problem - like so many have been telling you to no avail for years and years.
In plain English as the 100% complete and whole transparent truth of what I've learned, done, and experienced?
Would you have preferred I lied, instead?
I'm not sure when telling the truth went out of fashion.. so call me old fashioned, I guess. *shrug*
The truth presented in an engaging way would be more appealing.
Like, 100% more appealing than what you are doing now.
Please feel free to elaborate.
I have simply shared exactly what I've learned and done and shared my life & myself completely transparently like many others on this forum. I am not a fictional character playing some sort of acting role on a forum. I am myself. I do all the things I say I do. I've learned and done everything I've told you about, and the results have been exactly what I've shared. What better way to present anything than the God's honest truth?
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15 May 2018, 4:04 pm
Since EzraS isn't interested in reviewing the evidence he requested, here's an open invitation for anyone here to do it. Feel free to click & add me on FB and scroll through my decade long newsfeed to confirm 100% of the life events I've shared here over the last 6 years - starting with my rants/raves/frustrations 6 years ago when I lived in a construction site for a year and a half, right up to the last few years of beaches, parties, and kiteboarding. And you know it's me because I'm very anti-Trump on FB, too. I'm not hiding ANYTHING from anyone here. Hell, I share the gross science things I do for a treatment protocol FFS it's not going to bother me one iota if you read my FB status updates.
https://www.facebook.com/rsiecahnard
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15 May 2018, 5:32 pm
15 May 2018, 5:34 pm
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