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30 Jul 2010, 7:25 am

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weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.

Actually just 18 days, from first visit to doctor until yesterday's surgery, not even three weeks.

Is that possible, even in the USA?
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Why would it not be possible? If time is of the essence they try to get surgery going quickly. Patients go into the ER all the time complaining about chest pain and have tests done that day, and surgery scheduled the next day, spend a week or so in ICU, and then are released.

Now granted cancer can be harder to pin down than a heart problem, but 18 days is more than enough time to run tests and get surgery scheduled.


Chest pain is the number priority in ER.

A tip for everyone, if you call an ambulence and want it to arrive IMMEDIATELY, just say you're having severe chest pain and you think you're having a heart attack or say that you have a history of heart attack.

Things are only done fast if you have severe chest pain, because it can be heart attack, and heart attack kills you much sooner than any other conditions.

Oh, the other thing that will be done fast is high fever.


Yes, I'm aware chest pain is a priority, I was just using it as an example. The point was that 18 days is more than enough time to find the cancer and surgically remove it if they're actually trying to be quick about it.
also the blood in the excrement seems to me like it would be something that's usually cause for concern also, aside from chest pains :?


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30 Jul 2010, 7:27 am

Anyways, i'm going to get some rest now. Hoping i don't oversleep though.

it's about 5:30AM here and my eyes are starting to hurt from looking at this screen too long and being awake.

so g'night WP, going to go take a few-hour nap.


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30 Jul 2010, 9:35 am

Seanmw wrote:
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weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.

Actually just 18 days, from first visit to doctor until yesterday's surgery, not even three weeks.

Is that possible, even in the USA?
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Why would it not be possible? If time is of the essence they try to get surgery going quickly. Patients go into the ER all the time complaining about chest pain and have tests done that day, and surgery scheduled the next day, spend a week or so in ICU, and then are released.

Now granted cancer can be harder to pin down than a heart problem, but 18 days is more than enough time to run tests and get surgery scheduled.


Chest pain is the number priority in ER.

A tip for everyone, if you call an ambulence and want it to arrive IMMEDIATELY, just say you're having severe chest pain and you think you're having a heart attack or say that you have a history of heart attack.

Things are only done fast if you have severe chest pain, because it can be heart attack, and heart attack kills you much sooner than any other conditions.

Oh, the other thing that will be done fast is high fever.


Yes, I'm aware chest pain is a priority, I was just using it as an example. The point was that 18 days is more than enough time to find the cancer and surgically remove it if they're actually trying to be quick about it.
also the blood in the excrement seems to me like it would be something that's usually cause for concern also, aside from chest pains :?


Unusual to have visible blood from a stomach bleed. I thought most blood loss from the stomach is either not visible macroscopically or if it has passed through in sufficient quantities, it is altered by the enzymes present in the intestines so that the resulting stools appear tarry black (melena), not 'bloody'. Just saying.

Ouinon, like you, I am pretty much just rubber necking at this stage. I've a few theories going on here, but I'm tending towards agreeing with you that Sean's girlfriend may not be quite as enthusiastic for him to visit as he is.

[edit here; realised my original phrasing came off a bit harsh] Her 'cancer' seems quite vague and not very well researched. Because of this, I no longer suspect so much it to be a scam for monetary reasons. One quick google search would be all one would need to find a far more plausible/less vague set of symptoms and investigations, and surely a professional con would do that much. Her lack of effort in elaborating the story or even trying to answer any questions (conveniently falling asleep and passing her phone on to a 'friend') also lends weight to the theory that she may be trying to bail out at this point.

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I've had to use a hit-n-miss method of calling, putting in as many as 40-60 calls per day at different times until one caught her both awake and within range of her phone.


Sean, you phone her how many times a day?! 8O

(btw, Melbi, another one is "we have a bleeder" :) That gets them running!)



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30 Jul 2010, 3:34 pm

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I've had to use a hit-n-miss method of calling, putting in as many as 40-60 calls per day at different times until one caught her both awake and within range of her phone.


Sean, you phone her how many times a day?! 8O


Yes, it's something a worried aspie in Sean's situation could do if they are not able to get hold of the person. I think Sean keeps wanting to talk to her because he's constantly concerned and upset over the fact that she has cancer and might die. I also think he phones that often because she's usually not able to answer the telephone.



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30 Jul 2010, 3:42 pm

just talked to her on the phone, told her about the fruit thing, now she's napping again.

Awwwhz, poor Cuddlebugggg :( :heart:


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30 Jul 2010, 3:43 pm

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I've had to use a hit-n-miss method of calling, putting in as many as 40-60 calls per day at different times until one caught her both awake and within range of her phone.


Sean, you phone her how many times a day?! 8O


Yes, it's something a worried aspie in Sean's situation could do if they are not able to get hold of the person. I think Sean keeps wanting to talk to her because he's constantly concerned and upset over the fact that she has cancer and might die. I also think he phones that often because she's usually not able to answer the telephone.


still seems a bit much. But ok. Why wouldn't she call him/call him back though? Even a miss-call to say she was awake?



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30 Jul 2010, 3:47 pm

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I've had to use a hit-n-miss method of calling, putting in as many as 40-60 calls per day at different times until one caught her both awake and within range of her phone.


Sean, you phone her how many times a day?! 8O


Yes, it's something a worried aspie in Sean's situation could do if they are not able to get hold of the person. I think Sean keeps wanting to talk to her because he's constantly concerned and upset over the fact that she has cancer and might die. I also think he phones that often because she's usually not able to answer the telephone.


still seems a bit much. But ok. Why wouldn't she call him/call him back though? Even a miss-call to say she was awake?
i actually did have one missed call from her a couple days ago when she tried to call me back. But then i called back when i saw it a half hour later and she was asleep again already. That was the time her mom texted me with her phone telling me she was running a high fever...


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30 Jul 2010, 4:03 pm

ok. I'll sit back. Enough people have pointed out the flaws, but at the end of the day, it's your decision and others' decision to donate. Whatever happens, please look after your own health and be careful :)



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30 Jul 2010, 4:51 pm

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ok. I'll sit back. Enough people have pointed out the flaws, but at the end of the day, it's your decision and others' decision to donate. Whatever happens, please look after your own health and be careful :)
Alrighty, will do


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30 Jul 2010, 6:09 pm

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Prolly going to rent Shutter Island this weekend though. I saw it at the grocery store today & was thinking about it, but instead rented The Wolfman


shouldnt you be saving all your money for erm...something else

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30 Jul 2010, 6:52 pm

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That's just the thing though, i don't know how long i have left should things turn bad. ...

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Edit. PS. Of course if the surgery didn't work, and the prognosis was poor, ( eg. only a few weeks or months to live, ... which is the only way to even begin to explain the lightning speed at which she supposedly got the necessary referrals, had an MRI, underwent a biopsy, and had yesterday's surgery scheduled ... all in under three weeks! :lol :? ... ), then sooner would obviously be better ... ( though so far we have no proof that she has had any surgery at all, or even has cancer ), but I'm getting the impression, ( despite the ostensible gravity of the situation ), that there is actually no rush, probably because the girlfriend keeps falling asleep on seanmw when he tries to get the facts straight, so a round-trip in early September, for $260, would probably be ok.
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Actually it is this, ( the way that the girlfriend doesn't seem to be absolutely desperate for seanmw, supposedly the love of her life, marriage material, etc, to get over there, be by her side in all this, "before the end", and how little she or her mom seem to have done/be doing to enable him to do so, as if it really is a matter of indifference to them, despite their relationship being apparently so important ), that currently feels most weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.
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well, things often aren't so simple. For all i know, she is desperate, but the fact is that when you're 2000 miles away, and the only person you really know in the area has been stricken with cancer, the distance itself already makes such communication hard, but when they're drugged up on new antidepressants and weak from anemia because she's bleeding into her digestive tract, the line of connection becomes even more erratic because she sleeps most of the time, and when i have made contact these past few days, she hasn't exactly sounded as lucid, like talking to someone on a weak phone connection, i've had to repeat things a couple times. The few times she's been able to answer the phone lately have been mostly by chance & at times when she was awake to eat or use the restroom. I've had to use a hit-n-miss method of calling, putting in as many as 40-60 calls per day at different times until one caught her both awake and within range of her phone. It's not that nobody's not desperate to do anything, it's mostly that this is an imperfect world and the levels of communication since these things have happened has been sh***y because the situation is sh***y. Prolly have an even worse time contacting her directly now 'cause she's out of surgery earlier today and prolly taking some kind of pain medicine and laying around somewhere dozing again. I've had a grandma with pancreatic cancer before and most of the time i saw her in the hospital she was either emotionally unstable because of the situation or drugged up, with some times of calmness.
In a perfect world i could just call a number, her mom would pick up right away, and i could explain everything perfectly, and i'd be having alot less issues right now.
But Adrienne passed off her phone to her best friend Megan so i'm going to have to work through her first before i can get through to her mom. Most likely have to wait til Megan goes to visit herself to get any kind of solid message through.

Times like this that i hate living 2000 miles away :(
it makes doing some of the simplest of things so frustratingly tedious :x


her hospital room has a personal phone. and above the phone in the room there will be a number listed. ask her family for that number and it will put you straight through to her hospital room. that is how it was done when my mom was in the hospital.

if she changes rooms the number will be different. so ask them to keep you updated.



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30 Jul 2010, 7:22 pm

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Prolly going to rent Shutter Island this weekend though. I saw it at the grocery store today & was thinking about it, but instead rented The Wolfman


shouldnt you be saving all your money for erm...something else

*zips mouth*
I am, it's my mom that's paying to rent the movies. It's only 99 cents to rent a movie for a night at our local Red Apple Market, so we like to rent one occasionally. It's not like we're shelling out big bucks at Blockbuster or anything :?


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30 Jul 2010, 7:23 pm

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That's just the thing though, i don't know how long i have left should things turn bad. ...

ouinon wrote:
Edit. PS. Of course if the surgery didn't work, and the prognosis was poor, ( eg. only a few weeks or months to live, ... which is the only way to even begin to explain the lightning speed at which she supposedly got the necessary referrals, had an MRI, underwent a biopsy, and had yesterday's surgery scheduled ... all in under three weeks! :lol :? ... ), then sooner would obviously be better ... ( though so far we have no proof that she has had any surgery at all, or even has cancer ), but I'm getting the impression, ( despite the ostensible gravity of the situation ), that there is actually no rush, probably because the girlfriend keeps falling asleep on seanmw when he tries to get the facts straight, so a round-trip in early September, for $260, would probably be ok.
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Actually it is this, ( the way that the girlfriend doesn't seem to be absolutely desperate for seanmw, supposedly the love of her life, marriage material, etc, to get over there, be by her side in all this, "before the end", and how little she or her mom seem to have done/be doing to enable him to do so, as if it really is a matter of indifference to them, despite their relationship being apparently so important ), that currently feels most weird and unconvincing to me, more so even than the way she has crammed first doctor's visit, referrals, an MRI, a biopsy, and more surgery into a mere three weeks.
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well, things often aren't so simple. For all i know, she is desperate, but the fact is that when you're 2000 miles away, and the only person you really know in the area has been stricken with cancer, the distance itself already makes such communication hard, but when they're drugged up on new antidepressants and weak from anemia because she's bleeding into her digestive tract, the line of connection becomes even more erratic because she sleeps most of the time, and when i have made contact these past few days, she hasn't exactly sounded as lucid, like talking to someone on a weak phone connection, i've had to repeat things a couple times. The few times she's been able to answer the phone lately have been mostly by chance & at times when she was awake to eat or use the restroom. I've had to use a hit-n-miss method of calling, putting in as many as 40-60 calls per day at different times until one caught her both awake and within range of her phone. It's not that nobody's not desperate to do anything, it's mostly that this is an imperfect world and the levels of communication since these things have happened has been sh***y because the situation is sh***y. Prolly have an even worse time contacting her directly now 'cause she's out of surgery earlier today and prolly taking some kind of pain medicine and laying around somewhere dozing again. I've had a grandma with pancreatic cancer before and most of the time i saw her in the hospital she was either emotionally unstable because of the situation or drugged up, with some times of calmness.
In a perfect world i could just call a number, her mom would pick up right away, and i could explain everything perfectly, and i'd be having alot less issues right now.
But Adrienne passed off her phone to her best friend Megan so i'm going to have to work through her first before i can get through to her mom. Most likely have to wait til Megan goes to visit herself to get any kind of solid message through.

Times like this that i hate living 2000 miles away :(
it makes doing some of the simplest of things so frustratingly tedious :x


her hospital room has a personal phone. and above the phone in the room there will be a number listed. ask her family for that number and it will put you straight through to her hospital room. that is how it was done when my mom was in the hospital.

if she changes rooms the number will be different. so ask them to keep you updated.
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, i didn't know that :)


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30 Jul 2010, 8:31 pm

Your welcome. i am not positive if all hospitals are like that. but they are here, so i assume it is universal.



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Your welcome. i am not positive if all hospitals are like that. but they are here, so i assume it is universal.
Alrighty


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31 Jul 2010, 1:15 am

11:15PM here.
gonna try to get some sleep, or try anyways.
G'night WP


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