why are self-diagnosed aspies considered "posers?"

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Yes, the reasons are different for everyone.

I wouldn't have even wanted a support teacher or something like this, I just wanted to be left alone a bit in fakt and I believe a support teacher just would have let me feel aquart. But I would have wanted special training or something.
But I just got special training because of my dyslexia as a child and that helped a lot.

I think even every autistic person needs help and support in a different way, just because we have all pretty much the same diagnosis, doesn't mean we all have the same needs and some don't may have the need to get an officiall diagnosis. I feel the same way about my tics for example, I haven't even toled my psychiatrist by my last visit (I was there the first time) yet, because I forgot and don't care about them that much. I know I have them and what will he do about them? I don't need medications because of them and sometimes they suddenly increase and I don't know why and get very anoying and then I'm suddenly nearly tic free again for even maybe weeks. But I'll tell him next time or so when I think about it...!
What I wanted to say with it, that there exist different reasons to get a diagnosis or maybe not.
Some may live in a country where the stigma is just to big or they don't need one out of several different reasons.

Tony Attwood once sayed that approx. 80% of people who come to him for a diagnosis have in fact Asperger-Syndrome and I believe that most shrinks who are not specially trained in ASD aren't any better than the people who self-diagnose.
Why should any random psychiatrist be better in it, just because he/she has a degree?
I want to see this shrink who can diagnose 80% of their patiants correctly. Those are just a fiew, because they have to know and understand EVERY disorder, they aren't like the experts who just mainly concentrate in one disorder and that's it. Those experts will know a lot of stuff.
If someone want's a valid diagnosis they should go to an expert, otherwise selfdiagnoses aren't any better or worser than any random shrink.

I must say to all those that have self-diagnosed myself...I am quite shocked at the arrogance of believing you can tell what you have more than a trained and qualified Doctor/Psychiatrist.
IF self-diagnosing is ok, then why have Doctors at all. they are clearly unnecessary, so according to a few here.

A mental disorder such as a Autism Spectrum Disorder such as Aspergers/HFA must be diagnosed by a professionally and a qualified person. Just like Schizophrenia,psychosis,bi-polar,depression,social-phobia, alcoholism and and and............ Would you not visit a specialist Doctor for those problems?

I have to show official proof to authorities like banks, certain employers, government,etc... if I have a valid diagnosis of my Aspergers, a self-diagnosis is not worth ANYTHING!

It is not fun and cool to be an Aspie, but I a proud of who I am, and now thanks to my official diagnosis at Simon Baron-Cohen's clinic in England, my life can get better and I can receive the correct and appropriate help and therapy and support that I didn't get growing up.

Please get officially diagnosed ! !! ! You will not regret it.

Working on it but financial difficulties get in the way.

Only reason I'm DXed is because of the military.

"Self-diagnosed" =/= "poser."

Good luck to everyone.

I find it hard to comprehend why others get worked up over this. Why do you personally get worked up dgp?

As I've stated in upper thread: Do you think what you've posted here is above all the heads here to comprehend? Do you think we are running around with our heads stuck in different places? You are a grown man. Now knowing grown ups like yourself, and using your imagination about "grown ups"- do you really believe what you've stated here is something that I or anyone here has not come to these very same conclusions - of the merits of really knowing? Do you really believe that?

This controversy of the self Dx phenomenon is like sharks teeth. You knock one out and one comes in right behind it, ad infinitum.

Why make this your business?

But what do you really resent?

MDYAR~ Why are you being arrogant and rude etc...? Is it your idea of fun to be so negative?

I guess you have nothing worthwhile to add here, I suggest you are on the wrong website, and not just the wrong planet...jeez!

Move on.

Did you NOT just read the part where she said "I don't have insurance and can't afford to see a doctor?"

I'm in the exact same boat. I never heard of aspergers, or even autism growing up. The first time I heard the word autism was after I graduated, long after I had health insurance.

Also, because some of us are adults and have had jobs and have learned to communicate somewhat effectively... We had to learn to fake it because there was no other option for us growing up, and because of that, some people refuse to believe we have difficulties. Or sometimes it's just because we possess much knowledge, that we can't possibly have it... It's partially due to the fact that most people think aspergers/autism is just another word for ret*d.

I'm sure the OP would LOVE to get a diagnosis, as would I, but that simply isn't possible at the moment. And while I would love to have some help coping with this crazy f****d up world I live in, I REFUSE to take medication that messes with my brain. Just because my brain doesn't function like most people's brains, that doesn't mean there's something wrong with me. It simply means I'm not compatible with most people, and I'm not gonna take some meds that make me not be me anymore. Screw that. If you can't accept me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best, and I don't change for anybody. You can either like me the way I am, or you can just f**k right off(i'm not directing this at you; I'm not telling YOU, the poster to whom I am responding, to f**k off... I'm just expressing the way I feel about this sort of thing).

So because one doesn't have an official diagnosis, he or she cannot possibly understand other people who are autistic or the challenges they face??

Look, damnit... I'm 26 years old. I don't need a doctor who's met me for a few hours to tell me that I'm different from other people. If I wasn't, I wouldn't be so goddamned confused by their idiotic behavior. I wouldn't have thought that the words "EYE CONTACT" should mean LOOKING SOMEONE IN THE EYES. Two automobiles haven't made CONTACT unless they hit each other, so why should EYE contact involve anything OTHER than looking someone in the eyes? Apparently your'e supposed to look at the third eye, the space between the eyes, and shift your focus down to the corners of the mouth, then back up to the third eye, while talking to someone. That is what is considered "eye contact." I JUST learned this fact, THIS YEAR. If I couldn't pick that s**t up after 26 years on my own, obviously I'm not "normal." And I don't need a douche in a white coat to tell me that. I've known I was different my entire life.

For you people with a diagnosis to pretend that somehow we don't experience the same things you do or that we're just faking is a huge slap in the face to every aspie that ever lived before you. Actually, I take that back. You're right... We DON'T experience the same things you have because YOU have had access to help most of, if not your entire lives. WE, on the other hand, had to just suck it up and deal with it.

Oh come on.

You have not addressed a thing here, David.

Oh I have, I have addressed your unnecessary comments and aggravating remarks. Have you been diagnosed officially with anything?

Not everyone has a way to get diagnosed.

yes they do. Why do you think otherwise?

Ever hear of things like lack of insurance or money? Not everyone can afford to pay for it.

if they really want a diagnosis then they will save up for one, mine was free.

Yours being free doesn't mean everyone elses is.

You can't save up if you are dirt poor and spending every cent you have on things like rent or food and you certainly can't save up if you have no income at all.

Then there is still the issue of finding a place you can actually get to that accesses adults since many only do children.

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Your new here David

A regular ASD reader would be aware of the many DX's received that have been inaccurate, by many WP members

Many WP members have written accounts of being given incorrect DX's by trained 'expert' quacks

Many WP members have numerous tales of crap doctors

I myself was told I have AS by an adult liaison clinician at AutismNZ, during a 1 hour appointment....

Which is probably incorrect.... I have some AS traits, possibly PDD NOS but not enough for a DX of AS(i think)

Anders Brevik has 3 teams of experts which can not decide on his DX....

Calling yourself a golf pro is poserish.... you sound like a quack?

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