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13 Dec 2017, 6:13 pm

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Everybody: More than half this thread is devoted to debating the fate of a box of odds and ends. Its ASS Ps stuff, therefore his issue. EOS.


There is some entertainment in it. Also, some of us are pointing out ASS-P's internet panhandling to ensure no one here is swindled into giving up their hard earned money/space to deal with his issue. So, there's some value in continuing to respond. Some members of this forum may be far more easily taken advantage of than others.


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13 Dec 2017, 6:16 pm

I will probably regret getting involved in this topic (yet again), but I've been following ASS-P's posts for years now, and have struggled with wanting to be supportive, but ultimately feeling there's nothing I can do to help.

ASS-P, I'm glad you're in a safe place for the moment, and getting the medical care that you need. I would agree with others here who have urged you to stay put as long as this place is available to you, and not rush into anything else right now.

I'm sorry to hear about your brother's passing, and hope that you can find a way to at least get a few photos scanned or mailed to you. It sounds like the next step is to hear back from the lawyer, and hopefully he can clarify what he's willing and able to do about it, and how to proceed from here.

To others in this thread... In general, I agree with what many of you are saying, in that ASS-P has a history of asking for unrealistic help from WP forum members, and refusing to follow through with even the simplest of suggestions. I understand that can be frustrating, but feel that even so, we need to try our best to be patient and compassionate, to someone who is dealing with far more difficult circumstances than most of us have ever known.

It may be a pipe dream, but I also wish that as forum users we could be more respectful to each other, in general, and not just in this thread. In particular I feel Omniel has been unfairly condemned, simply for being honest about the difficulty of dealing with an autistic family member. This thread itself is proof that people with autism are capable of making unreasonable demands on others, and it's understandable that Omniel would come here seeking perspective, in how to deal with her own situation.

I'm not saying that I have any answers for ASS-P's situation, that haven't already been suggested. Or that I'm any kind of saint, either in my ability to provide in-person help, or my own blundering social missteps on this forum. I'm only saying that we all need to step back and resolve to at least try to be more respectful to each other, in this world where it's so difficult for us to find any place where we feel welcome or accepted at all.

(I also have to say, in case it isn't common sense, that California is experiencing unprecedented wildfires at the moment, and I would not recommend burning anything, for safety issues.)

Take care, ASS-P, and keep us updated on how you're doing. You're a survivor, that's for certain, and I personally have learned a lot from following your story over the years. Hope things continue to improve for you in the future.



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13 Dec 2017, 6:17 pm

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drwho222 wrote:
Everybody: More than half this thread is devoted to debating the fate of a box of odds and ends. Its ASS Ps stuff, therefore his issue. EOS.


There is some entertainment in it. Also, some of us are pointing out ASS-P's internet panhandling to ensure no one here is swindled into giving up their hard earned money/space to deal with his issue. So, there's some value in continuing to respond. Some members of this forum may be far more easily taken advantage of than others.


I know. I'm the first one who pointed it out as panhandling.



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13 Dec 2017, 6:28 pm

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(I also have to say, in case it isn't common sense, that California is experiencing unprecedented wildfires at the moment, and I would not recommend burning anything, for safety issues.)


Even easier! Just toss it in the path of a wildfire & let nature run it's course.

Or it could be torched in New York State where right where it is.

The options of places to burn stuff are nearly limitless!*

*Just do it safely & don't start another forest fire, of course.


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13 Dec 2017, 6:46 pm

I'm sympathetic to ASS-P's cause because we have a lot in common (age, homelessness, diagnoses, location, etc). I wish I could help him out in person because it seems like he needs hands-on help. Deep inside, though, I think things will work out okay in the long run.



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13 Dec 2017, 7:07 pm

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FWIW to those regularly reading this thread: It's not just ASS-P that I recommend letting go of material things they no longer need or have never needed. I was at a friend's last night and he was talking about his plans to likely sell 2 of his 4 vehicles and buy one brand new one for the wife to use. We talked about various options & the least expensive ways to obtain a brand new, or near new vehicle. When it came to vehicle 3 of 4, he said his plan was to ship it off to Salt Spring Island (a few hours away) to store it at has dad's place. He hasn't used said vehicle (purpose built offroad 4x4 that's still street legal) for 1.5 years. I asked him how often he visits his dad's place - Never. I told him that the most likely thing to happen if he ships it over there is that it'll sit and rot, he'll never use it again, and it won't have any resale & useful value to others aside from maybe a few parts and that IMO the very best thing he could do is let go of the emotional attachment to that vehicle (just like his muscle car he's planning on selling) and accept that that period of his life is in the past now & sell it while it's still worth any money at all and someone else can still use it. I know it's not easy to do, but IMO it's the best move he could make so I told him so. He didn't shoot it down.. so he's considering it at least.

Anyways, my point is that my perspective of material objects has evolved to a point where I'm less and less attached to them and advise that others seek the same freedom for themselves when it's in theirs, and the objects, best interest to do so. It's a better way to live than hoarding stuff & things that only serve to create stress due to our indecisiveness to take action and let those things be free and re-enter the economy so they can be of use to someone else.


You got a point. The more you have the more you have to figure out where to store it.



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13 Dec 2017, 7:19 pm

Ashariel wrote:
I will probably regret getting involved in this topic (yet again), but I've been following ASS-P's posts for years now, and have struggled with wanting to be supportive, but ultimately feeling there's nothing I can do to help.

ASS-P, I'm glad you're in a safe place for the moment, and getting the medical care that you need. I would agree with others here who have urged you to stay put as long as this place is available to you, and not rush into anything else right now.

I'm sorry to hear about your brother's passing, and hope that you can find a way to at least get a few photos scanned or mailed to you. It sounds like the next step is to hear back from the lawyer, and hopefully he can clarify what he's willing and able to do about it, and how to proceed from here.

To others in this thread... In general, I agree with what many of you are saying, in that ASS-P has a history of asking for unrealistic help from WP forum members, and refusing to follow through with even the simplest of suggestions. I understand that can be frustrating, but feel that even so, we need to try our best to be patient and compassionate, to someone who is dealing with far more difficult circumstances than most of us have ever known.

It may be a pipe dream, but I also wish that as forum users we could be more respectful to each other, in general, and not just in this thread. In particular I feel Omniel has been unfairly condemned, simply for being honest about the difficulty of dealing with an autistic family member. This thread itself is proof that people with autism are capable of making unreasonable demands on others, and it's understandable that Omniel would come here seeking perspective, in how to deal with her own situation.

I'm not saying that I have any answers for ASS-P's situation, that haven't already been suggested. Or that I'm any kind of saint, either in my ability to provide in-person help, or my own blundering social missteps on this forum. I'm only saying that we all need to step back and resolve to at least try to be more respectful to each other, in this world where it's so difficult for us to find any place where we feel welcome or accepted at all.

(I also have to say, in case it isn't common sense, that California is experiencing unprecedented wildfires at the moment, and I would not recommend burning anything, for safety issues.)

Take care, ASS-P, and keep us updated on how you're doing. You're a survivor, that's for certain, and I personally have learned a lot from following your story over the years. Hope things continue to improve for you in the future.


Unfortunately, the social welfare system isn't set up to help someone like ASS P. Its set up to take someone who is physically and mentally fit and give them a little to help get back on their feet. What ASS P needs is essentially parental care his whole life. I'm not saying that's bad, some folks do need that. But its not what the social welfare system in the USA is set up to provide.



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13 Dec 2017, 7:45 pm

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...i am exploring possible destinations for the stuff.


I'm hoping you figure out a solution that works for you.

Also, I'm sorry for the loss of your brother. At least you can carrying him around in your heart.

*gentle hug*



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13 Dec 2017, 7:58 pm

I don't think he should burn his brother's pictures at all. No way.

As for the other stuff, I'd have to know what the stuff is before I give an answer. If it's old comic books or old phonograph records, I know ASS-P would like those.

If it's furniture, and he's near to being able to rent a senior apartment or something of that ilk, this might be useful. Who knows?



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13 Dec 2017, 8:08 pm

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I don't think he should burn his brother's pictures at all. No way.

As for the other stuff, I'd have to know what the stuff is before I give an answer. If it's old comic books or old phonograph records, I know ASS-P would like those.

If it's furniture, and he's near to being able to rent a senior apartment or something of that ilk, this might be useful. Who knows?


Thing is if its DVDs I don't know how he would stop them from being stolden.



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13 Dec 2017, 8:10 pm

It would be hard to prevent those being stolen. True.



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13 Dec 2017, 8:31 pm

My fondest wish is for ASS-P to get a shave and haircut, and a button-down shirt and chinos, as a celebration for finding his senior apartment.



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13 Dec 2017, 9:28 pm

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My fondest wish is for ASS-P to get a shave and haircut, and a button-down shirt and chinos, as a celebration for finding his senior apartment.


I am concerned about what kind of food with be available to him alone in an apartment and having to fend for himself. More fast food like KFC? The high levels of sodium and sugar (flour breading and potatoes) are going to make diabetes, kidney failure and CHF become worse and worse.



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13 Dec 2017, 9:36 pm

You're right. That wouldn't be good for him.

His favorite place, from what I've gathered, is Burger King.



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13 Dec 2017, 9:45 pm

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You're right. That wouldn't be good for him. His favorite place, from what I've gathered, is Burger King.

he needs his veggies to be pureed, with his dental issues. or cooked to death which would defeat their nutritional purpose. a stash of low-salt v-8 juice as a dietary staple would be just what the good doctor ordered.



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13 Dec 2017, 9:51 pm

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You're right. That wouldn't be good for him.

His favorite place, from what I've gathered, is Burger King.


Single men his age in his situation really only have fast food to turn to and the kind of stuff 7-Eleven sells like hot dogs and potato chips. And who's going to monitor his blood sugar and blood pressure etc? I'm just afraid he will go from an apartment right back into the hospital again.