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31 Jul 2010, 7:20 am

woke up again :/.
Just can't seem to sleep as well lately


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31 Jul 2010, 9:41 am

It's approximately 8 am, ( on Saturday 31 July ), where you are right now, is that right? Is she in the same time zone as you? ( I know where Seattle is, but not where Indiana is ).

So it's approaching 48 hours since she supposedly had an operation in hospital.

Has her friend or her mom given you the tel no for A's hospital room yet? Has A called you? Do you have the mom's tel no yet?

When does she supposedly go home again?

What kind of treatment/therapy/medication is/will she supposedly be receiving now that they have supposedly removed the tumour?

How long have you got to visit her? ( ie. what's the prognosis? ), and what about a photo of her in her hospital bed/room to help drum up donations for your plane ticket to see her before it's too late? Or is she showing even less interest than before in helping you get there?

My "internal jury" is still out; there may be ( non-scam ) reasons why you have had so much trouble contacting her, why they have been so apparently uninterested in helping you get there, and in keeping you informed, ( even of hospital room tel no's ), etc etc etc ... but it still looks very much like an "emotional scam", a story to get your attention and sympathy and create lots of drama ... but it might, just might, be true ... aarrgh!

I hope that you can get proof one way or the other very soon. *Either way* it's a pretty grim situation.

PS. I hope that you got some more sleep! :)
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31 Jul 2010, 9:48 am

Or maybe ..... maybe ....

... Sean is fooling us ALL!!

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31 Jul 2010, 10:38 am

honestly,,,, a couple of dollars spent in naive belief is worth a thousand spent in the wake of agonized research.

the dollars that he gets from me are innocent and naive ones , and if it is all a scam, then i will feel no lesser in myself for being fooled.

there are lovely people and there are careful people.

just give a few dollars and be a lovely person even if it means that your dollars were sucked into a scam.

never give more than you can afford and then all is ok ..no matter what the circumstance turns out to be.

i trust him and if he is being hoodwinked then i was hoodwinked with him.
i will not be poorer in any way for giving to what i thought was a valid situation even if it turns pot to be a ruse..

it looks like i will have to give him the rest of the money because you are all biting your nails in skepticism.

let your hearts be taken with little evidence and you will find that the genuine things in life outweigh the con's to a great degree. you do not have to be your own pilot for the rest of your life.
if this is a con, then i will learn a cheap but valuable $200 lesson.



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31 Jul 2010, 10:42 am

ouinon wrote:
It's approximately 8 am, ( on Saturday 31 July ), where you are right now, is that right? Is she in the same time zone as you? ( I know where Seattle is, but not where Indiana is ).

So it's approaching 48 hours since she supposedly had an operation in hospital.

Has her friend or her mom given you the tel no for A's hospital room yet? Has A called you? Do you have the mom's tel no yet?

When does she supposedly go home again?

What kind of treatment/therapy/medication is/will she supposedly be receiving now that they have supposedly removed the tumour?

How long have you got to visit her? ( ie. what's the prognosis? ), and what about a photo of her in her hospital bed/room to help drum up donations for your plane ticket to see her before it's too late? Or is she showing even less interest than before in helping you get there?

My "internal jury" is still out; there may be ( non-scam ) reasons why you have had so much trouble contacting her, why they have been so apparently uninterested in helping you get there, and in keeping you informed, ( even of hospital room tel no's ), etc etc etc ... but it still looks very much like an "emotional scam", a story to get your attention and sympathy and create lots of drama ... but it might, just might, be true ... aarrgh!

I hope that you can get proof one way or the other very soon. *Either way* it's a pretty grim situation.

PS. I hope that you got some more sleep! :)
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Indiana is about 3 hours ahead of me, so it'd be about 11:00AM there.

Her friend gave her cell phone back now i guess, 'cause i got through on that directly to Adrienne yesterday. Wasn't able to talk much before she got sleepy again. Forgot to bring up more details once i actually heard her voice, and mostly just ended up asking how she was doing and stuff and passing along Just-me's message about the fruit being good to eat for cancer patient's etc. Though then she said she can't eat much right now anyways, what with the stomach surgery still being pretty recent, so then that got an awkward silence and then we just said some cute lovey stuff back and forth for awhile, and she ended up wanting to nap again so i let her go. She does still want me there though, but she's having trouble dealing with her mom about it. Her mom likes me based on the fact that i make Adrienne happier than she's ever seen her, but at the same time she's a bit paranoid about stuff (apparently one of the reason's Adrienne's dad left them, among other reasons, according to Adrienne) and doesn't feel too comfortable about someone she's never met (i get the feeling her mom prolly has AS traits too). I'm not a stranger to Adrienne, but for all intents and purposes i'm still kinda a stranger to her mom, so her mom's not really sure what she wants to do exactly about it, and is generally not giving much of a straightforward answer at this point.

she said this before the surgery, but aside from just the surgery itself, she was going to have the radiation therapy and chemotherapy to try to get rid of whatever the surgery might have missed.

i'll try to get more info today though if i can get through on her cell.

donations so far at about $350.


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31 Jul 2010, 11:10 am

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honestly,,,, a couple of dollars spent in naive belief is worth a thousand spent in the wake of agonized research.

the dollars that he gets from me are innocent and naive ones , and if it is all a scam, then i will feel no lesser in myself for being fooled.

there are lovely people and there are careful people.

just give a few dollars and be a lovely person even if it means that your dollars were sucked into a scam.

never give more than you can afford and then all is ok ..no matter what the circumstance turns out to be.

i trust him and if he is being hoodwinked then i was hoodwinked with him.
i will not be poorer in any way for giving to what i thought was a valid situation even if it turns out to be a ruse..

it looks like i will have to give him the rest of the money because you are all biting your nails in skepticism.

let your hearts be taken with little evidence and you will find that the genuine things in life outweigh the con's to a great degree. you do not have to be your own pilot for the rest of your life.
if this is a con, then i will learn a cheap but valuable $200 lesson.

This is partly why I sent him $25, ( the other parts were not wanting to feel bad about it if it turns out to be true, and another part was to "pay" for my participation in the thread, :lol, and to "excuse" my continuing scepticism ).

I too won't "mind" at all, ( except sympathetically, for sean ), if it turns out to be a scam; I've contributed/donated totally freely, "for my own pleasure/interest" in a way, aswell as because I continue to believe, on the whole, that seanmw is telling what he believes to be the truth. I can afford what I sent.

I like your saying that if he is hoodwinked you were hoodwinked "with him", because I suppose that's what it is; it is "joining him" in whatever the situation actually is, ( however much I still post my doubts and queries etc ).

I would probably feel a bit awful if it turned out that seanmw himself had been scamming, but even that I am open-eyed about, and, as you said, will learn a lesson if that's so.

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Her mom likes me based on the fact that i make Adrienne happier than she's ever seen her, but at the same time she's a bit paranoid about stuff (apparently one of the reason's Adrienne's dad left them, among other reasons, according to Adrienne) and doesn't feel too comfortable about someone she's never met (i get the feeling her mom prolly has AS traits too). I'm not a stranger to Adrienne, but for all intents and purposes i'm still kinda a stranger to her mom, so her mom's not really sure what she wants to do exactly about it, and is generally not giving much of a straightforward answer at this point.

I was wondering that, about the mom, because it is increasingly clear that AS doesn't just appear out of nowhere, ... and it is true that AS, in you, Adrienne, and perhaps her mom, would go some way to explaining away the holes, and improbabilities, etc of the "story".

I think that I probably hope that she isn't scamming you, because if she is then you have "no girlfriend" anyway, and cancer, if she actually has it, is not necessarily a death sentence.

$350 is good, that means you did manage to raise $250 from people generally, which b9 said he would double. I hope you manage to get over there soon.

Hope you're ok. Sounds like *you* could do with some fruit! ( or a few vits and mins to help you relax and sleep ). :lol
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31 Jul 2010, 11:27 am

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b9 wrote:
honestly,,,, a couple of dollars spent in naive belief is worth a thousand spent in the wake of agonized research.

the dollars that he gets from me are innocent and naive ones , and if it is all a scam, then i will feel no lesser in myself for being fooled.

there are lovely people and there are careful people.

just give a few dollars and be a lovely person even if it means that your dollars were sucked into a scam.

never give more than you can afford and then all is ok ..no matter what the circumstance turns out to be.

i trust him and if he is being hoodwinked then i was hoodwinked with him.
i will not be poorer in any way for giving to what i thought was a valid situation even if it turns out to be a ruse..

it looks like i will have to give him the rest of the money because you are all biting your nails in skepticism.

let your hearts be taken with little evidence and you will find that the genuine things in life outweigh the con's to a great degree. you do not have to be your own pilot for the rest of your life.
if this is a con, then i will learn a cheap but valuable $200 lesson.

This is partly why I sent him $25, ( the other parts were not wanting to feel bad about it if it turns out to be true, and another part was to "pay" for my participation in the thread, :lol, and to "excuse" my continuing scepticism ).

I too won't "mind" at all, ( except sympathetically, for sean ), if it turns out to be a scam; I've contributed/donated totally freely, "for my own pleasure/interest" in a way, aswell as because I continue to believe, on the whole, that seanmw is telling what he believes to be the truth. I can afford what I sent.

I like your saying that if he is hoodwinked you were hoodwinked "with him", because I suppose that's what it is; it is "joining him" in whatever the situation actually is, ( however much I still post my doubts and queries etc ).

I would probably feel a bit awful if it turned out that seanmw himself had been scamming, but even that I am open-eyed about, and, as you said, will learn a lesson if that's so.

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Her mom likes me based on the fact that i make Adrienne happier than she's ever seen her, but at the same time she's a bit paranoid about stuff (apparently one of the reason's Adrienne's dad left them, among other reasons, according to Adrienne) and doesn't feel too comfortable about someone she's never met (i get the feeling her mom prolly has AS traits too). I'm not a stranger to Adrienne, but for all intents and purposes i'm still kinda a stranger to her mom, so her mom's not really sure what she wants to do exactly about it, and is generally not giving much of a straightforward answer at this point.

I was wondering that, about the mom, because it is increasingly clear that AS doesn't just appear out of nowhere, ... and it is true that AS, in you, Adrienne, and perhaps her mom, would go some way to explaining away the holes, and improbabilities, etc of the "story".

I think that I probably hope that she isn't scamming you, because if she is then you have "no girlfriend" anyway, and cancer, if she actually has it, is not necessarily a death sentence.

$350 is good, that means you did manage to raise $250 from people generally, which b9 said he would double. I hope you manage to get over there soon.

Hope you're ok. Sounds like *you* could do with some fruit! ( or a few vits and mins to help you relax and sleep ). :lol
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Yeah, also Adrienne's told me some things about her mom that make me think maybe her mom is leaning toward the asexual side, which also sounds kinda aspie-ish in that regard, and might have also contributed to their inevitable divorce. Think her dad might've been NT, though all i know about him is that he's Canadian & that he kinda disowned Adrienne & her mom when he left them. Apparently he hasn't even come to see Adrienne even with the cancer. The other parts of his side of the family get along with them well enough though. Like Adrienne was up in Canada recently like a month or so ago at her father's sister's wedding.


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31 Jul 2010, 11:33 am

& yup, i got some tea with valerian in it that should help me sleep better, hopefully.
Plus we just went grocery shopping last night with our Food Benefits EBT card, so now i finally got more to eat than just oatmeal & hot dogs, yay :) .


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31 Jul 2010, 2:35 pm

naptime soon


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31 Jul 2010, 6:56 pm

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naptime soon
Yeah, that valerian tea helped a little


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01 Aug 2010, 12:15 am

awake again. Prolly going to be up most of the night.
Just finished watching Shutter Island & actually it was pretty good


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01 Aug 2010, 1:40 am

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Just finished watching Shutter Island & actually it was pretty good

Do you think it's worth buying/good for a second viewing or is it a "once only watch"? I missed it when it was at the cinema in the Spring and have been dithering about whether to get it from Amazon or not. Do you think that you might be able to tolerate Di Caprio in "Inception" now? :lol

With Indiana 3 hours ahead of Seattle I can see that it might sometimes be hard to connect up on the phone; I have trouble sometimes here, with just the *one* hour difference between France and the UK, ( eg. a time in the evening which is perfect for me is just too early for someone else, or the perfect mid-evening time for them to call me is already nearly bed time for me, sometimes, etc ).

Have you had any more "news"? Have you been able to buy a plane ticket yet? ... You must be very close to having enough money for it now.

What does A say at the prospect of your turning up in a couple of days?

Not sure if I understood you about that; she supposedly wants to see you but it's her *mom* who doesn't, is that right? ... Are you saying that according to your girlfriend her mom hasn't agreed to your visiting her ( 20 year old daughter ), and so you might not be going to Indiana, ( despite your girlfriend supposedly having potentially terminal cancer ), or that if you do you will have to find somewhere else to stay? ... ... ...

Hope you get some sleep. Glad you've got something to eat apart from oatmeal and hotdogs!! ! 8O :lol :)
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01 Aug 2010, 2:11 am

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Just finished watching Shutter Island & actually it was pretty good

Do you think it's worth buying/good for a second viewing or is it a "once only watch"? I missed it when it was at the cinema in the Spring and have been dithering about whether to get it from Amazon or not. Do you think that you might be able to tolerate Di Caprio in "Inception" now? :lol

With Indiana 3 hours ahead of Seattle I can see that it might sometimes be hard to connect up on the phone; I have trouble sometimes here, with just the *one* hour difference between France and the UK, ( eg. a time in the evening which is perfect for me is just too early for someone else, or the perfect mid-evening time for them to call me is already nearly bed time for me, sometimes, etc ).

Have you had any more "news"? Have you been able to buy a plane ticket yet? ... You must be very close to having enough money for it now. What does A say at the prospect of your turning up in a couple of days? Not sure if I understood you about that; she supposedly wants to see you but it's her *mom* who doesn't, is that right? ... What do you think about this? It sounds more than a little fishy to me. :?

Hope you get some sleep. Glad you've got something to eat apart from oatmeal and hotdogs!! ! 8O :lol :)
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I think it'd be good for more than one viewing :).
I liked the plot twist at the end. DiCaprio was good in it, i thought.

Actually, not really sure if her mom doesn't or not. Haven't gotten an answer from her either which way. Personally i think her mom seems to be a somewhat fickle or flighty person when it comes to decision-making, the type that doesn't like to commit to a definite answer and usually replies with something along the lines of, "i'll think about it," slow to act; passive. Because even before this all came up i've asked Adrienne to ask her mom stuff for me, like concerning getting her pic messaging back on her phone, for example, and her mom has never given any real definite answer back to me or her on such trivial things as that either.
Honestly, i wouldn't be at all surprised if Adrienne's AS traits come from the genetics on her mom's side :? .

& still not quite enough for the plane ticket for a few reasons: B9 hasn't gotten the rest through via paypal yet, his initial donation is still pending until august 4th for some reason, and in any case, it takes a few days for it to transfer from paypal to my bank account. I'd like to be sure i'll actually have the funds in hand to pay for it before i go trying to set any definite departure date down.

Also, i'd like to get through to her mom, and confirm some things before i go.
I like to be reasonably prepared.


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01 Aug 2010, 6:33 pm

So any news yet?


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01 Aug 2010, 8:14 pm

Zara wrote:
So any news yet?


It's rather frustrating right now.
I just tried calling and got a text back from her mom telling me off for calling while Adrienne's asleep. I didn't know she was asleep. Not exactly something i automatically know.
So, I sent a text back asking for her number so i could call her instead,
but as of yet no text reply from her mom yet.
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