A Call for Genetic Purification

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Yes, please, please, tell me what suffering I am causing so that I may punish myself and thus atone for my sins.

whats "sin"

Weyoun's profile says that he is diagnosed with Asperger's. I tend to agree with Sophist, he does seem like a self-hating autistic. I say that we shouldn't close down the thread. We might not make progress with him but we can try and we lose nothing by keeping the thread open. I think it is important that we try to reasonably address the concerns of Weyoun. If a person does not like what he says then they can ignore him, he has not personally attacked anyone nor has he used slurs so I think that we should allow him to retain freedom of speech. It is sort of like the Nazi parades, nobody likes what they say but we all recognize their right to say it.

he still pisses me the hell off

Yeah, of course he would. You see his comments as degrading and to some extent they are. Of course though it is better to rationally battle follies and prove our side to be better than to simply ban them. Maybe Weyoun will come to agree with us, maybe he won't but I would still rather hear him. Just try to find your happy place Arsenic, temper won't win the day this day besides just take his words as ignorance rather than hatred, maybe that will help.

i remember when i was about 12 i met a girl and i daydreamed about her all day and that was all in my mind. when she got into arguments over politics with other kids our age i just hid in the grass nearby and whispered to her, ignore them. i just want to spend time with you. i pleaded with her and eventually she listened and it was amazing. we were in a world of our own. nobody could touch us. too bad she left with her uncle and we never met again.

My theory is that Vandike opened a new account on WP so he could troll without the NeuroTypical label. Right_Honourable_Weyoun's ideas on this subject seem very similar to Vandike's.

Here is Vandike's very similar thread on the same subject: Are you/going to get sterilized?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... highlight=

Could someone who can look at IP addresses please investigate this possibility? Thank you.

Compared to a lot of other diseases, autistics and aspergers don't suffer than greatly, or do they cause enough of a drain on the economy for their contributions not to be worth it. And since when has humanity cared more about its own suffering than productivity? If humanity in general cared more about its own pleasure than its productivity, we'd all do drugs and die at age 30.

I never saw the connection between AS and gangsta rap until now.

Gangster rappers tend to struggle with their tone of voice, hence coming across as aggresive, They are always moving their arms, they struggle to dress themselves right with caps on the wrong way, boxer shorts over their trousers and they love shiny things or "bling" as they call it. All these things spell out autism to me. Their twitchiness and overuse of loud vulgar swear word indicate tourettes also.

Back on topic, i think if you yourself are miserable or would make a bad parent, then you shouldnt have kids. That goes for nuerotypical people too. Personally, my problems would make it hard for me to be a good parent and i dont think i could inflict my genes on anyone else so i am very unlikely to reproduce *hears a hundred sighs of relief* but im sure that there are lots of aspies who are comfortable with themselves and their kids make great parents so nobody has the right to tell them not to reproduce.

WOW, what a total pile of biggoted, ignorant BS!

Right_honurable_weyoun, I am appalled by the fact that you have accused those here of not doing the research when what you suggest IS accually simmilar to what Hitler attemped to do. Hans Asperger, the namesake of our fine condition, prottected many young geniuses from the fate inwhich you suggest here that we sucumb to. Perhaps you get your jollies trolling. Perhaps you have other issues that make you think you can cast judgement on the Autism community. I may "suffer" from AS, but if a "cure" were placed in my lap tommrow, I'd not have it.

It is because we never have thought inside the box that our "kind" that you'd have made sterile, are able to do the things we do with our great minds. Most of us are not distracted by the same things that plague the NTs. We are focused. Because we are "outliers" we are able to put our minds beyond the incapaciting social structures and achieve more in one moment of unaldulterated thought than some NTs achieve in a year.
WE are the future of the human race.
We are clearly clever enough to see the diagnositc elements and compare them to who and what we are (or arent) and make an educated conclusion. If we are all speculated, then why assume that sterilizing us to "clense" the gene pool will have any effect?

Tell ya what, you want to "clense the gene pool", super idea, YOU FIRST.

Technically,I do not think it's Autism that causes problems/suffering?,but peoples' inability to understand, accomodate and accept the Autistic as who they are,and not what they want them to be.
If an Autistic was in a world based around Autism,as opposed to neurotypicality it would be the NT person with the problems and the Autistic person; with comfort.

Ladysmokeeater,don't give him any effort,it's the most cliched and overdone task on the WWW-go on a forum which supports one thing or another and say it's crap or doesn't exist,with the one aim-to offend.

We've made too much progress to go back to the 1930s. I also think that Weyoun is having trouble comming to terms with his condition.

To call auties and aspies diseased is insulting and uncalled for, and it's like calling anyone diseased if they have any sort of disability.

People don't lose any right to exist, just because they don't fit some standard mainstream mould, whatever that is.

Weyoun, I was going to ask you if you were a neo-Nazi. But of course other people have brought up the term Nazi already. If you tell me you're not a neo-Nazi I'll still have difficulty believing you, especially as Hitler had certain groups of people castrated.

It's a wrongheaded attitude.

I agree with keeno

A whole barrage or extremely "not nice" things came to mind when I read this, but I don't wish to be a flamer, so I will go so far as to say I agree steralizing yourself is probably in all our best interest, I don't think the rest of us need to take heed to your ridiculous ideas though. Feel free to follow up with the "special kool-aid" as well.