The Aspie/Gay Alliance

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given that asperger's affects males at a much higher rate than females (about 4:1), and that historically most studies show a higher percentage of males self identify as gay in comparison to females, it would make perfect sense that the ratio of gay:NT is higher in aspie populations.

i personally think its easier to identify gay males than it is lesbian females, so that could also come into play when it comes to perceptions about the number of gays in aspie society.

I was thinking more of a nonaggression pact.

Finally someone makes me laugh.... I like it...

Homosexual men like men. I like women.

Homosexual women like women. I like women.

I guess I sort of have something in common with gays.

To be honest.... My facial recognition is terrible... an Aspie trait... which could explain why I'm a "Kentucky Fried Chicken" man (prefers legs, breasts and thighs).

But I think that men in general don't spend an awful lot of time staring at womens faces when deciding if they are sexy or not. Usually we give the face one quick glance to make sure that its owner isn't ugly enough to frighten small children and then our eyes move onwards (or downwards).

I like girl for their face, not their body. I can tell if a face is beautiful or not, aspie or not.

In my ridiculously brief attempt at high school the only guy who hung out with me was a gay guy who was almost as much an outsider as me. People on this thread who think anti gay oppression is over... really it is not. Just because we can be more open now doesn't mean we aren't still hated, murdered, ostracized, and discriminated against at school and in jobs and so forth in the west. Any more than racism is over (which pretty much the only people who believe that are white).

Also people on this thread are confusing sexuality and gender. Sexuality is about who you are attracted to. Gender is about how you feel inside of yourself.

I consider myself a lesbian because I am 99% attracted to women and am female. But I don't have a gender. I don't even understand gender. I know it must be real because people can kill themselves over their gender identity. But I don't understand how certain activities are gendered male, female, or in between. I would not see gender if I had not been explicitly taught. And my likes, dislikes, and feelings have nothing to do with gender. I couldn't care less if my body was female, male, or intersexed. I just literally don't use gender in my self-concept in the slightest. Which means I am constantly confusing people and being sometimes accused of butch femme or androgynous depending on what I do but I am none of those things. Not female gender not male gender not in between gender not another gender. Just not gender period. Neither cisgendered nor transgendered. Not gendered.

I don't feel a specific alliance between autism and gay communities because the autism communities are just subsets of the disability communities and are not special. Maybe alliances could be formed between gay and disability communities though. I never fit in in the gay community though.

I'm not qualified to make a statement on this, but I can say that when everyone told me I "must be Gay" when I was maybe 14 to 17, and wasn't acting the same socially as others, I had to think it over. I really didn't know what the deal was. That's because I didn't have any sex drive yet to guide me which way I might have been (very late bloomer). I do get along MUCH better with other men (boys when I was a boy myself). But it turned out that I was just a little less afraid of other males, than I was of females. I think since as an Aspie, I had no concept of flirting with girls, I just got frustrated with the whole thing. Only thing is, I'm not physically attracted to the male body, while I am to the female. As far as getting emotionally close, it makes very little difference to me whether a friend be male or female. Definitely a conundrum for anyone just coming of the age to perceive sexuality.

Now here's another theory: Let's suppose that a male like me, at that age, DOES happen upon a Gay male, and they wind up doing things. I would guess that it might be the same as a first straight encounter. It can really carry a lot of weight. Speaking for myself, I don't think I'd be able to perform with another male, as it's "just not there" for me. But I might have a whole different outlook on it, had I been somehow inducted into a "first time" in a Gay setting. That's a weird thought for me, but the truth is I have no idea.

Charles

This is very funny

Hmmm... I still say that I can't seem to get along well with gays and I am one. But, hey, if any of you feel a connection, then the more connections, the better, I say.

That kind of goes along with how I felt about girls; I was less afraid to communicate with other guys than I was with girls. So I guess we're a little more afraid (for those of us with communications fears anyway), of one we're potentially attracted to.

Charles

I don't believe this would make it any different. Not in the long run, at least.