16 Jul 2010, 6:11 am
16 Jul 2010, 7:14 am
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
MrDiamondMind wrote:
To those of you who do NOT find it hard to write in a grammatically correct fashion, but do so regardless, you are acting like little children who are liberated from the constraints of school; preschoolers who find kindergarten too strict. How hard is it to double-check your post to see whether it makes sense or not before you click "submit"? Have you ever seen those examples of paragraphs that people write, where, if the commas are in the wrong places, the intended meaning can go in reverse? And to those of us who are used to reading near-perfect English, the incoherent gibberish that appears in some posts can almost look like this: "kljfajp39709jgmslja-i8-7upojfofjapu0909mfmlljkgpjheuwuwpjejgJgjdjdh9u09u9u."
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that there are a multitude of reasons as to why some people make mistakes? I guess I will list them that way you can be a bit more 'ENLIGHTENED' about how things work.
I suppose it's possible I'm wrong, but I'm pretty darn sure MrDiamondMind didn't make a mistake, but rather intentionally used a non-standard form. Like, light humor.
And ain't is a word. It's non-standard, particularly in more formal registers of English, but, still, it's very much a word. And, yes, it's in the dictionary. http://onelook.com/?w=ain%27t&ls=a
16 Jul 2010, 9:50 am
16 Jul 2010, 11:03 am
I sometimes forget to type words as I am typing a sentance and my spelling is way off. If I take the time to go over every word I am wrting to check for spelling I will loose my train of thought forgetting what I am talking about. (My Memory is that bad 
) I figure if you can get your thoughts out on the screen and the person reading the sentance you wrote understands despite spelling and grammer mistakes then mission acomplished.
If they get mad at your spelling mistake then screw them, you can be sure that person will have a shorten lifespan if they get angry over something minor as a spelling mistake imagine what else they get upset over. Their blood pressure is probably through the roof over stupid little things. I can be happy knowing my spelling mistakes might kill them one day. 
(Just kidding)
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16 Jul 2010, 12:09 pm
Followthereaper90 wrote:
i think u need to learn a bit more trolling as its fairly obvious what u are doing
"I didn't even mention that my native language (Arabic) isn't even close to any Latin/indo-European language"
nice one...now while its truly impressive that u learned English, its just another language and wont make u more superior even its not anywhere near English
You come off as unjustifiably arrogant and a bit dumb because 1. obvious troll is obvious 2. like someone mentioned being in here, most people have problem with grammar
...now where is my "reaping a troll" option
"I didn't even mention that my native language (Arabic) isn't even close to any Latin/indo-European language"
nice one...now while its truly impressive that u learned English, its just another language and wont make u more superior even its not anywhere near English
You come off as unjustifiably arrogant and a bit dumb because 1. obvious troll is obvious 2. like someone mentioned being in here, most people have problem with grammar
...now where is my "reaping a troll" option
........
....oh , damn. You have exposed me!! :'( You have succeeded to uncover my trolly frogy ways.
From now one...I shall be your obedient apprentice, teach me Troll Reaper , you are my Master Troll! I want to learn the 'Hand of the Troll-God" Technique!!
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16 Jul 2010, 1:57 pm
MrDiamondMind wrote:
anbuend, you have stated to have communication problems, and I am only giving crap to those who don't. Plus, you are absolutely fine; the few posts of yours that I have read, I find to be eloquently written and seemingly correct. 
DemonAbyss10, alright, homeboy. Reasons 1 & 2 are really silly. You could post when you are no longer in a rush. And you could turn on the lights to remedy darkness.
Reason 3 is a disorder, and I'm addressing those without.
Reason 4: you could use the Internet to solve grammar and spelling problems.
Reason 5: I'm ALWAYS upset about something, and my writing skills are unaffected.
Reason 6: answer to reason 4 applies here as well.
DemonAbyss10, alright, homeboy. Reasons 1 & 2 are really silly. You could post when you are no longer in a rush. And you could turn on the lights to remedy darkness.
Reason 3 is a disorder, and I'm addressing those without.
Reason 4: you could use the Internet to solve grammar and spelling problems.
Reason 5: I'm ALWAYS upset about something, and my writing skills are unaffected.
Reason 6: answer to reason 4 applies here as well.
Still, dont go around insulting those who make mistakes, its a known fact that we are all human thus we all make mistakes now and then. As for the rush thing, sometimes if you dont post it right away you will just end up completely forgetting about it, so I see it as completely valid, unlike you. Same goes for typing in the dark, some of us are on when other people are sleeping, so we will keep the lights off out of respect. Learn that the situations are not always what they seem. So yeah, I still consider you in the wrong for being a grammar nazi.
16 Jul 2010, 2:06 pm
16 Jul 2010, 2:06 pm
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
MrDiamondMind wrote:
To those of you who do NOT find it hard to write in a grammatically correct fashion, but do so regardless, you are acting like little children who are liberated from the constraints of school; preschoolers who find kindergarten too strict. How hard is it to double-check your post to see whether it makes sense or not before you click "submit"? Have you ever seen those examples of paragraphs that people write, where, if the commas are in the wrong places, the intended meaning can go in reverse? And to those of us who are used to reading near-perfect English, the incoherent gibberish that appears in some posts can almost look like this: "kljfajp39709jgmslja-i8-7upojfofjapu0909mfmlljkgpjheuwuwpjejgJgjdjdh9u09u9u."
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that there are a multitude of reasons as to why some people make mistakes? I guess I will list them that way you can be a bit more 'ENLIGHTENED' about how things work.
1) The poster was obviously in a rush. Hell, I have done this on occasion. I would be posting something as quickly as I can just so I can get on to what I have actually prioritized.
2) Some people have a hard time remembering the layout of a keyboard. This becomes really noticeable when someone is typing in the dark.
3) Maybe the person has dyslexia.
4) The person in question has forgotten certain grammar rules and word spellings because he/she hasn't had a good reason to use them. Not everyone is going to be writing every day. Talking is simply a much more 'natural' thing to do.
5)The individual in question could also be upset about something, which in turn does affect mental acuity.
6)Individual may be on medications or mind altering substances. When I was on prescription pain relievers after I had my surgery, I know my grammar and spelling got affected while I was on vicodin because of the drowsiness.
There are reasons other than these, but really, point being is to stop acting like everyone who doesn't use proper grammar and spelling in EVERYTHING is a f***ing dumbass. Also, those who complain about the 'distraction' caused by said errors, take a good look at yourself. If you have to absolutely take it out on the individual who made said error, think of it this way. You are just being an obstinate jerkass if you decide to start beating down on someone because of it. What if the person indeed has dyslexia or another problem that can cause difficulties in spelling and grammar. What if the person was genuinely trying to post something constructive. Also if you want to complain about it being spoken as well, then you really piss me the f**k off. I enjoy the various accents of the world.
However, I do get annoyed to hell when people to it on purpose (IE: L33TSP33K). Unless it is used for humor, such as in lolcats. All in all however, starting a bitchfest over grammar is like participating in a "Biggest Idiot" competition, even if you win you are still an idiot. Just learn to treat people with some f***ing dignity. Its no wonder why we live in a crapsack world because people have to constantly start conflicts over trivialities such as grammar, music interests, religion, political beliefs, race, and so on and so forth.
I made a joke. I was poking at Diamond's intentional bad grammar.
16 Jul 2010, 2:10 pm
Mysty wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that there are a multitude of reasons as to why some people make mistakes? I guess I will list them that way you can be a bit more 'ENLIGHTENED' about how things work.
I suppose it's possible I'm wrong, but I'm pretty darn sure MrDiamondMind didn't make a mistake, but rather intentionally used a non-standard form. Like, light humor.
And ain't is a word. It's non-standard, particularly in more formal registers of English, but, still, it's very much a word. And, yes, it's in the dictionary. http://onelook.com/?w=ain%27t&ls=a
Obviously, my attempt at humor fell flat.
16 Jul 2010, 2:17 pm
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Mysty wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that there are a multitude of reasons as to why some people make mistakes? I guess I will list them that way you can be a bit more 'ENLIGHTENED' about how things work.
I suppose it's possible I'm wrong, but I'm pretty darn sure MrDiamondMind didn't make a mistake, but rather intentionally used a non-standard form. Like, light humor.
And ain't is a word. It's non-standard, particularly in more formal registers of English, but, still, it's very much a word. And, yes, it's in the dictionary. http://onelook.com/?w=ain%27t&ls=a
Obviously, my attempt at humor fell flat.
Well, in my case, I was mostly replying to, DemonAbyss10, and his referring to the use of "ain't" as a mistake.
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16 Jul 2010, 2:24 pm
16 Jul 2010, 2:29 pm
16 Jul 2010, 3:27 pm
@OP, Anubend: You guys are fine. Your posts are quite readable, and you make an effort to get it right. I only have a problem with people who can get it right quite easily, but are just too lazy to bother.
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
MrDiamondMind wrote:
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that ... 'ENLIGHTENED' ... EVERYTHING .... f***ing dumbass......obstinate jerkass....really piss me the f**k off.....
In the entirety of your long wall-of-text rant over practically nothing, complete with shouting and cursing, did it ever occur to you that what you were ranting against was angry rants over practically nothing?
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Also, those who complain about the 'distraction' caused by said errors, take a good look at yourself.
I didn't complain. I explained. It depends on how bad the error is, and whether it affects the meaning.
Let me explain again. When someone reads something, they are building up a grammatical map of the meaning of what they read in their minds. That map in their mind is the only way their mind can understand a sentence. If the sentence is broken, the map will be broken, too, and unless they can guess what was meant to be said, they will not be able to understand it. Sometimes guessing what the writer meant to write is relatively easy, but even then, you have to stop reading so that you can make guesses about what was really meant.
If you know the writer isn't a native speaker, or that they have problems with communication, then you can adjust your expectations, so it's easier to read, and if you do run into a snag, at least you know it isn't because the author was a lazy jerk.
As an example, I recently had a teacher from Korea. She used "several" like a native speaker would, and "several several" like a native speaker would use "quite a few". The first time she said it, I was jarred out of thinking about what she was talking about. After that, I would notice every time she said "several several", but it wasn't distracting enough to derail my train of thought.
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Also if you want to complain about it being spoken as well, then you really piss me the f**k off. I enjoy the various accents of the world.
What you're referring to are dialects, not accents.
16 Jul 2010, 4:02 pm
Ancalagon wrote:
@OP, Anubend: You guys are fine. Your posts are quite readable, and you make an effort to get it right. I only have a problem with people who can get it right quite easily, but are just too lazy to bother.
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that ... 'ENLIGHTENED' ... EVERYTHING .... f***ing dumbass......obstinate jerkass....really piss me the f**k off.....
In the entirety of your long wall-of-text rant over practically nothing, complete with shouting and cursing, did it ever occur to you that what you were ranting against was angry rants over practically nothing?
I didn't complain. I explained. It depends on how bad the error is, and whether it affects the meaning.
Let me explain again. When someone reads something, they are building up a grammatical map of the meaning of what they read in their minds. That map in their mind is the only way their mind can understand a sentence. If the sentence is broken, the map will be broken, too, and unless they can guess what was meant to be said, they will not be able to understand it. Sometimes guessing what the writer meant to write is relatively easy, but even then, you have to stop reading so that you can make guesses about what was really meant.
If you know the writer isn't a native speaker, or that they have problems with communication, then you can adjust your expectations, so it's easier to read, and if you do run into a snag, at least you know it isn't because the author was a lazy jerk.
As an example, I recently had a teacher from Korea. She used "several" like a native speaker would, and "several several" like a native speaker would use "quite a few". The first time she said it, I was jarred out of thinking about what she was talking about. After that, I would notice every time she said "several several", but it wasn't distracting enough to derail my train of thought.
What you're referring to are dialects, not accents.
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
MrDiamondMind wrote:
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.
If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.
Wow, really? Hope you realize that ... 'ENLIGHTENED' ... EVERYTHING .... f***ing dumbass......obstinate jerkass....really piss me the f**k off.....
In the entirety of your long wall-of-text rant over practically nothing, complete with shouting and cursing, did it ever occur to you that what you were ranting against was angry rants over practically nothing?
Quote:
Also, those who complain about the 'distraction' caused by said errors, take a good look at yourself.
I didn't complain. I explained. It depends on how bad the error is, and whether it affects the meaning.
Let me explain again. When someone reads something, they are building up a grammatical map of the meaning of what they read in their minds. That map in their mind is the only way their mind can understand a sentence. If the sentence is broken, the map will be broken, too, and unless they can guess what was meant to be said, they will not be able to understand it. Sometimes guessing what the writer meant to write is relatively easy, but even then, you have to stop reading so that you can make guesses about what was really meant.
If you know the writer isn't a native speaker, or that they have problems with communication, then you can adjust your expectations, so it's easier to read, and if you do run into a snag, at least you know it isn't because the author was a lazy jerk.
As an example, I recently had a teacher from Korea. She used "several" like a native speaker would, and "several several" like a native speaker would use "quite a few". The first time she said it, I was jarred out of thinking about what she was talking about. After that, I would notice every time she said "several several", but it wasn't distracting enough to derail my train of thought.
Quote:
Also if you want to complain about it being spoken as well, then you really piss me the f**k off. I enjoy the various accents of the world.
What you're referring to are dialects, not accents.
I agree. This is exactly why I prefer reading grammatically correct postings.
Also, dialects don't bother me. Like I said before, it was meant to be a joke.
16 Jul 2010, 4:11 pm
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