What effects would a cure have?

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It would have negitive effects on a person, they wouldnt be themselves anymore. Plus what is there to cure? The only thing I think needs to be cured is peoples ignorance and intolerance of those who are different. Only then will society, and humans, begin to evolve as a whole.

As far as I know, Alzheimer is caused by calcareous deposits (sorry if this sounds strange, I seriously don't know the correct term for this in English) in the brain, which starts only after quite a few decades of being alive. It can be triggered by genes, but they are not the actual reason.
Autism is clearly related to genes (or at least very, very, very likely) and the differences develop even before birth. You'd have to interfere in the embryonal stage. The brain is different. You'd have to rewire all the synapses, and how do you want to do that? Do you WANT to do that? Because rewiring synapses should make you able to alter the brain quite deliberately...

(ADD is mainly caused by a degree of inability to respond to some hormone. Some drugs can enable the body to respond to it and thus enable people to concentrate, which is a very important task in order to be sucessfull in anything)


I believe in it. I believe someone who is very intelligent on here will find a cure. There's always a first time.[/quote]

Trust me- there are enough people on the spectrum that hate themselves so much, it wouldn't bother them, really.

I understand. Ive felt the same way before. Usually due to everyone else belittling me.

Most aspies end up hating themselves due to ignorance and cruelty from NT Individuals. Theres nothing wrong with them but due to others they end up feeling that way.

I take it you've not had the best time with other people either. When I was younger I got picked on and I wanted a cure, until I realized that its other peopl who have the problem. Different doesnt mean inferior.

If Autism is triggered by genes, then how come all of my family are NTs and I'm not? Or even if older/distant relatives had it, why was it just passed on to just me and nobody else in my stupid family? It just has to be that way, don't it (sigh).
Or maybe a lot of times Autism is given to you by fate/bad luck.
If I've just had a meltdown my poor stressed-out mum would be on the phone to her sister crying, ''you really haven't a clue how it is for me in this house!'' And she is right because her sisters daughter is NT. So, because all of my mum's brothers' and sisters' children are ''normal'', I think she'll do anything for me to be ''normal'' too, so that she'll be happier. So the reason why I want to be cured is not because of me, it's because of my mum.

It's not so much how I socialize what I want changed - it's how I react to things; loud noise, changes, crowds, unpredictabilities, disappointments, ect. It's also how my emotions are; irritation, depression, anger, anxiety, confusion, jealousy. These moods and reactions don't always affect my day-to-day communication, like to people at work, or family relatives, but they still make my life a living nightmare in other ways.

I haven't, but through much observation and introspection, I at least don't have people yelling at me anymore. Whether or not there's still silent disapproval from others remains unknown.
Plus, I trained myself to understand vocal intonation using my perfect pitch.
I was referring to the numerous posts I've seen in the haven where people want to kill themselves and what not. Think about it- a cure would almost be like suicide without having to actually die. It'd probably be a halfway point many might want.

We'd need to provide a scientifically accurate definition of love before that discussion could get anywhere.


I have two personalities, i am allowed two opposite views. Many of my posts from the past two years reflect this.

What about elimate the vaciniations against illnesses as a child. since that is probably another contributing factor to autisim given that half of u here were probably born as NTs.

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I'm not sure I'd want a complete "cure." Sure, Asperger's has made my life much harder in a lot of ways, but at the same time, it has also been a "gift" of sorts.

Easing symptoms is one thing, but "re-wiring" my brain to make me an NT? I am who I am, and I wouldn't want to give up being me.

What exactly are these gifts people keep talking about?
I have perfect pitch and great spatial relations, but does that have to do with AS, or is it just a talent, plain and simple? Does one have to do with the other? I'd feel presumptuous calling myself a savant.

That's a very interesting question.

First confusing issue is that a vocal minority of people on WP seem to think that anything which could be "cured" isn't "real" autism anyway;

ie. they seem to think that if an autistic could for example significantly improve their attentional capacities and social skills with a long-term gfcf diet, as was seen in the latest/most recent large sample study over 12-24 months for instance, then that person wasn't autistic anyway or that those "impairments" can't have been autism ... ... ... something which would suggest that the diagnostic machine is totally out of control, because that study involved 72 children all officially diagnosed as autistic.

Were all or most of those children "just" suffering from the effects on their brain of food opioid peptides in gluten and casein, and they "should" therefore have another diagnostic label, which makes me wonder how many people would still qualify for the diagnosis of autism, or were they "real" autistics who were totally spaced out on food opioid peptides and will now be able to function much better? ... ( ... but what if they function so much better that they no longer qualify for the diagnosis? )

If anything "curable" can't be "real" autism then, as Callista says, talking about the effects of a cure can only ever be a thought experiment.

But if what is diagnosed and known as autism is seen as a collection of behaviours some of which are relatively dysfunctional and can be "treated"/improved through diet, for example, the question I find myself asking is whether the special skills and abilities almost unique to people on or near the spectrum would disappear at the same time as the more obviously "dysfunctional" characteristics, the ones which are seen as impairments/experienced as disabilities in our society?

For instance the kind of intense sustained concentration on one subject to great depth, the ability to make connections between apparently unrelated subject areas/fields of knowledge, the immersion in one train of thought for hours on end leading to new understanding, the rigid adherence to language as means to understand things such that create increasingly complex social constructs in order to describe everything, the gift for "systems", and various other "abstract" thinking skills, which often seem to come with autism ...

... Would the subset of people on the autism spectrum, 36.7%, with unusually permeable intestines, ( compared to 4.8 of the general population, according to a very recent study ), develop these nearly unique, certainly "rare" skills/abilities without the unusually large amounts of food opioid peptides ( which more permeable intestines allow to pass directly into the blood ) to act on and influence the development of neural networks/connections in the infant ( and to some extent the adult ), brain?

What if the "birth of ( western ) civilisation" was the more or less direct result of the grass-plant mutation at the end of the last ice age which caused the first ever glutenous grains to pop up in the Fertile Crescent ( Turkey, N. Iraq, and Middle East ) and nowhere else until humans planted it elsewhere? ie. an opioid-fuelled technological revolution.

If all children were screened soon after birth for signs of unusually permeable intestines, and those with very permeable guts automatically put on gfcf diets ... would this lead to a drop in society's capacity as a whole for abstract thought, invention, etc, as many on this thread have claimed?

How much food opioid peptide intake is "good", and how much is "too much"? What would a "cure" of even some rather than all of the qualities particular to autism, "cost" society? Good question. Don't know. What would I have been without food opioid peptides? I don't know. ....

Might I have been more productively creative without bread and cheese and pizza and all those other wonderful and so addictive food opioid sources? It wouldn't have been exactly difficult to be more productive than I have been! :lol ... I might have been more productive but less creative! :lol

PS. They have found that apart from the effect of gluten and casein on the intestinal wall cells ( they aggravate already existing permeability ), and acute infection/inflammation, ( ditto ), one other major influence on intestinal permeability is fructose and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Something about diets high in fructose and livers damaged by them causes the intestines to become more permeable. Perhaps the massive rise in fructose consumption had had an effect on the amount of food opioid peptides that are reaching our brains in infancy and thereafter?

PPS. It turns out that unusually-high intestinal-permeability is not correlated with GI problems ( which is probably where Wakefield went wrong, desperately trying to link them together ); it is a relatively "silent"/invisible phenomenon, apart from the addiction to bread and cheese and pizza that is! :lol
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You know the vacinations are partly to blame since a lot of people with AS have don't come from familes where there is hardly any history of AS.

I know there's going to be a cure one day. I mean, take a look at this whole world. It is a miracle really. On every land there's society. Where did it all start? Well, I know how a bit, but how did it become like how it is? About a thousand years ago the people who lived then couldn't ever think about how society could become, in their wildest dreams. I mean, a lot of things we have now didn't exist then, and if any ideas were brought up they'll just say, ''you can't make one of those! It's impossible! It's just your imagination!'' Wrong! There may be a lot now, and there always will be more inventions to come. So if man is clever enough to build society, surely man is clever enough to make a cure for a few conditions. You can only hope for the best.

I'll love the missing parts of my ugly brain to be filled up, then I can be NT. I'll be able to say ''yes'' when asked to go out to a party, without having to put on a front. I can be the life and soul of the party and they will all think I'm cool instead of looking and saying, ''oh that daft cow is trying too hard - she's weird!''

Think about it.

I cannot see "the cure" as anything else but some kind of horrible drug making one act like a zombie for some reasons. I mean, many remedies have a tendency to make you sleepy and act strangely, especially the ones which are used to treat mental illnesses.

We could compare it to ritalin, however I have no idea of how it works.

The first generation of antidotes would be only somewhat effective, and have atrocious side effects. They probably only address one aspect of autism, and not have that good an impact on your life.