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You abstract and you emotionally infer. Both of those qualites are rare from what I have experienced.

I swear I am not trying to misunderstand due to bias though I could tell that you immediately had bias (or opinions) for me when I informed you that I moderated my local chapter of ASAN. You really are impossible for me to follow. All your threads and your website too. If you want to reach Autistic people then you may have to consider some of our limitations to abstracting.

And sometimes it means I don't understand. If you think I have not tried then I there''s not much to be done about it.



Realistically, how many people withing the autistic community would read this sentence and gain anything from it? You write as if everyone on the spectrum has an IQ of 165. In truth, only .0001 percent of autistics are on that part of the intelligence curve.

I don't understand why you say you want to communicate to the autistic community but use a level of abstraction that the overwhelming majority within the community find overly dense.

Instead of "studying patterns of interpretation within preexisting sociologically relevant frameworks within the autism community" you should simply study the language of the community and use THAT language to communicate.




Which actually makes my point. If such abstraction is rare among autistics, it follows that attempting to communicate to the autistic community at your level of abstraction will not be understood. The majority, by your own assertion, are not abstract enough to follow your reasoning.

People with autism have emotions. You have emotions when you made comments about my ego. I do have the ability and have been asked to write an alternative sub-site for two group types for my main public relations website. As the main site is specifically psychologically programmed to trigger certain psychosocial mechanisms based on macro governing influences (to get people to think a certain way to talk them into helping). You see I never used to have this ability and was not properly schooled for my learning style so I got left behind myself. I had an IEP but those things are bad and being two points behind for GATE classes hurt as well. I am making up for it in most of my awake time and when I dream at times to.

Also all people with autism cannot be assumed as unable to understand or not understanding their own behaviour. I see the differences with people here. In conflict resolution in the autism community my job is to study this sort of thing but ultimately people have emotions and motives.

Nathan Young

^^^ THIS ^^^

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I am in that 2% with exceptional IQ and feel no need to speak in any manner that is confusing to my listeners. Like I said, I work in a field where I interface with PhDs all day long and together we do not have this sort of communication unless we are very focused on a specific technical topic. When we emerge in the general population, we "dumb it down" as is appropriate.

Look at Autism Speaks website or ASANs website. Those are easy to understand, correct spelling and grammer and actually reach their intended audience. THAT is key if you really want to make something work IMHO.

Ok well both are boring in a society that wants to be entertained that plays video games, watches movies and is bored unless they are invoked emotionally. If I am not effective why are people inspired and if I am a failure to you why do I have such great support from media and families and people with DD here where I live? I don't use divisive actions to create reaction that differs me from ASAN. They know what they are doing don't dumb them down.

Seems to me it's not about thinking styles with you but a bias.

Nathan Young

Sigh... this is NOT about content but about how to speak (level of communication/abstraction)

I give up.

Carry on Nathan Young and good luck with your ventures

Who said anything about the effectiveness of your services or whether or not you are inspirational?

Then you need to begin by choosing a common language with common rules, grammar and sentence structure.

I can't argue against you because I can't understand you. If I don't know what you're saying, I can't even know if I agree.

I really think you shouldn't accuse people of intentionally misinterpreting you just because they can't understand. Let me personally say that I have told you all along that I do not understand you. I have never claimed that that was your fault. And personally, I agree with those who now tell you that they can't understand you. I think (but I'm not sure) that you're taking offense at people for having difficulty communicating, something which many autistics have trouble with.

It would be very helpful for you to simply rephrase the things people can't understand.

Sorry if someone has language disabilities such as grammar and you refuse to try to understand then your missing out. I was in special education for grammar and it's not going to change. I am not going to force myself to communicate the way you want when you offer no compromise. People with autism and other disabilities as well as so called typical people understand me all the time. If you don't like what I say and want to say well you don't talk good enough so therefore going to ignore you then that is unreasonable.

Seems kind of unreasonable to imply to much inferiority to speak and have a conversation less I am a superior normal. Reminds me of the N.T vs. Aspie conflict so maybe others need to see what they do and demand of others the same. If someone is unwilling to understand because they don't agree unless I find a way to agree with them they won't understand.

Humor Phrase: grammar nazi's

Sorry, I couldn't follow that either. I did see that you seem to think that I am intentionally trying not to understand you, but that is not the case. Imagine I am speaking to you in French and getting upset with you because you chose not to understand me, and then assumed I had some devious motive for choosing not to understand. (Yes, for the purposes of this analogy I am assuming you do not speak French)

This request is far to vague. There are three ways I can compromise in writing.

1. Abstract framework.
2. Intellectually disabled.
3. Abstract, figurative, metaphoric and slang to literal.

As for grammar structure folks are going to have to accept it. I'm used to also being looked at as if I am dumb. My mental response is folks are to strict and staburn to bother. To me it seems like arrogance but I don't want to come off confrontational just accept that about me and others.

I think this is a defense mechanism is all and made up. I can get people with autism to understand these issues as well as others offline. There is no need for the online folk to agree. Those that can understand, want to understand and choose to learn how to understand what I say post. Otherwise I don't need a bunch of posts telling me and others something so vague in reply that it offers no compromise or ability to gain mutual understanding.

You are a hoot ci, and a shining example of all the wonderful diversity that makes up the spectrum. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors

Meh.

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