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04 Mar 2011, 6:16 am

Like I said before I have no dominance between the hemispheres. However, I do believe I am more left brianed. :wink:


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04 Mar 2011, 6:52 am

I scored 5 for right.

In the meantime, I was thinking that I have some kind of visual trait, no matter how I stated earlier. The question in the test asked about geometry vs. algebra in maths. In maths, no. But in physics, absolutely YES! I'm just realizing after some recent conversations, that most people do not have the level I thought they have (I did not see my ability that unique). Actually, I see physics 3 dimensional (adding 4th, time), and make the connection between verbal/algebral and visual model. To me, it just not works other way.



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04 Mar 2011, 8:35 am

I am both left- and right-brained, although I'm more left. I'm a scientist who is both very verbal and logical, and I see the "spinning dancer" puzzle turn counterclockwise. But I think in both pictures and words, I love to draw, and I'm terrible at math. I'm also left-handed, which probably plays a role. I'd love to get tested to see which hemisphere my Broca's area and other speech centers are located. I really wouldn't be surprised if they were in the right hemisphere.


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04 Mar 2011, 3:10 pm

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Yeah, I checked it too, and it's borked

Try this one http://www.web-us.com/brain/braindominance.htm

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You responded as a right brained person to 14 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 4questions.


That makes more sense to me.


Thats funny.I got 9/9 and still it said left*lol*



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04 Mar 2011, 10:25 pm

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My thoughts seem to be purely conceptual too, unless I'm deliberately putting them into words. I suspect that most people think like this, in spite of the common belief that we mostly think in words or pictures. Main evidence for that? Most of us have had thoughts that we can't easily put into words. That couldn't happen if we thought purely in words. The moment you have an idea that you can't immediately express, you can see the pure, conceptual thought. What do see, pictures, words, or just hazy concepts? With me it's just a hazy concept, which might have a very blurred, dark image or two associated with it, but it's definitely not what I'd call pictures. It's pure, language-free thought.

I think in words a lot, but only as a secondary process to the basic conceptual thinking.


I simply can't "think in words" or "think in pictures". Can you? Can you produce a clear "mental image"? Picture a baby sitting on an alligator. Do you get a vivid, photo-quality picture in your mind? Or do you just think about the "concept"?

Most people can produce mental images, whether or not they represent their "standard" mode of thought.

Yes, I can, and I do.

I can't imagine thinking in any other way. Imagine that!

It's very strange for me to try and conceive of how you think because I can't ever get past trying to visualize it - which I can't do - so I can't understand it.


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04 Mar 2011, 10:32 pm

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it's not that the popular concepts regarding brain lateralization are simply devoid of value
What value is there in boxing people in?

Left brained or right brained is a ridiculous dichitomy. What brain side does what is irrelevant to everyone but brain surgeons - do you use your liver or your kidneys? And when you look at the list of traits supposed to be related or exclusive... yeah. It's impossible to be logical and fantasy-based? You can't be detail oriented and reigious? You have to be verbal to be reality-based? (Even if you insist on a more lax interpretation, it doesn't make sense). It's the same flaw as with any attempt to divide people; people are more complicated than that.


This is strange to me because I am very verbal and think in words and pictures and yet I always feel as though that by doing this I'm not ever really in reality, that I am somehow cut-off from it, because as soon as I see something, the idea of that thing or the word representing it immediately gets in the way of my experiencing the thing in and of itself, without its being encased by a word or concept; it's very, very frustrating. Sometimes I think it's going to drive me insane, literally.


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04 Mar 2011, 11:29 pm

You responded as a right brained person to 11 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 7 questions.



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04 Mar 2011, 11:41 pm

You responded as a right brained person to 15 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 3questions. According to the Hemispheric Dominance test, you use your right brain the most.

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Sounds exactly like me lol.



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05 Mar 2011, 8:25 am

I can see the dancer go in both directions. When I first loaded it up, I saw it going counter-clockwise. Now I see it going clockwise. And it's switched a few times before, too.

Most of the tests I've taken, though, say I'm more left-brain oriented than right-brain. I think I can do both just fine, though.


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05 Mar 2011, 9:24 am

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You responded as a right brained person to 7 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 11questions. According to the Hemispheric Dominance test, you use your left brain the most.


I think I used to be more right-brained than I am now.


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05 Mar 2011, 10:59 am

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Left brained or right brained is a ridiculous dichitomy. What brain side does what is irrelevant to everyone but brain surgeons


That's not true. No one is saying that every popular characterization of brain lateralization is valid. But there is obviously some truth to the concept of brain lateralization.

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And when you look at the list of traits supposed to be related or exclusive... yeah. It's impossible to be logical and fantasy-based? You can't be detail oriented and reigious? You have to be verbal to be reality-based? (Even if you insist on a more lax interpretation, it doesn't make sense). It's the same flaw as with any attempt to divide people; people are more complicated than that.


You're challenging the validity of absolutes, but the fact that these absolutes aren't valid doesn't mean the generalities that they gesture towards aren't.

The fact of the matter is, people with a weak left hemisphere generally fit a certain profile. People with a weak right hemisphere generally fit a certain profile. To deny this is to deny, for instance, the whole of neuropsychology.



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05 Mar 2011, 11:09 am

Poke wrote:
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Left brained or right brained is a ridiculous dichitomy. What brain side does what is irrelevant to everyone but brain surgeons


That's not true. No one is saying that every popular characterization of brain lateralization is valid. But there is obviously some truth to the concept of brain lateralization.

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And when you look at the list of traits supposed to be related or exclusive... yeah. It's impossible to be logical and fantasy-based? You can't be detail oriented and reigious? You have to be verbal to be reality-based? (Even if you insist on a more lax interpretation, it doesn't make sense). It's the same flaw as with any attempt to divide people; people are more complicated than that.


You're challenging the validity of absolutes, but the fact that these absolutes aren't valid doesn't mean the generalities that they gesture towards aren't.

The fact of the matter is, people with a weak left hemisphere generally fit a certain profile. People with a weak right hemisphere generally fit a certain profile. To deny this is to deny, for instance, the whole of neuropsychology.
Exactly. No one said you are EITHER left brained or right brained. It's about to what extent you're left or right brained.



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05 Mar 2011, 11:37 am

You responded as a right brained person to 9 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 9 questions.

My left and right get confused all the time. I'll pick up a pencil with my left hand and not realize it until I go to write and it doesn't feel right. Anything I do with my right, except for write and draw, I can do with my left hand equally or better. I think if I practiced writing and drawing as much with my left hand as I have my right, I could easily be as good with it.

As far as thinking visually or in words, I do both a little. I guess words would be predominate, but neither seem concrete as to my way of thinking.



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05 Mar 2011, 12:20 pm

I think this left brain/right brain stuff is mostly pop psychology rather than actual neurology. But for the test I got the following result: "You responded as a right brained person to 4 questions, and as a left brained person to 14 questions."

I've done tests with more questions and got scores which put me slightly left brained or slightly right-brained.



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05 Mar 2011, 12:59 pm

Brain lateralization, and the generally described "difference" between the hemispheres, is REAL.

If it wasn't, Broca and Wernicke would've been deemed frauds by now. The WHOLE FIELD of neuropsychology would be as valid as your daily horoscope. But it isn't! It corresponds with reality--it's a valid science.

Perhaps some people have taken the notion of brain lateralization, and the general characteristics attributed to each hemisphere, and "run wild" with them, using them to draw invalid conclusions. The fact that these conclusions aren't valid DOESN'T mean that the whole notion of brain lateralization is.



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05 Mar 2011, 2:31 pm

Brain lateralization is real.

But the general pop-psychology characterizations of left brain and right brain are outright silly compared to the realities of brain lateralization. Moreover, real brain lateralization has a lot of variety to it. Some people have their hemispheres lateralized exactly backwards from normal. Some people have lateralization where it's more like, the mix of things normally attributed to both sides is different than usual. Sometimes this only becomes obvious after a stroke or brain surgery, especially on left-handed people who may have incredibly varied reactions compared to normal, some of which can be devastating when something very different was expected.

And it's also pretty silly to go around using Broca and Wernicke to justify the sort of pop-psychology things being discussed in this thread, like "right-brained people are more creative". Most creativity uses both sides of the brain, unless a person lacks one side of their brain or lacks connectivity between both sides. Just because brain lateralization exists doesn't mean that everything attributed to brain lateralization is even remotely real. Real scientists think the pop psychology stuff is silly too. Many of the things attributed to "right" or "left" brain in pop psychology, not just creativity, are actually normally done by cooperation between both sides of the brain. It just doesn't work like this, and bringing up the fact that brain lateralization exists doesn't mean that everything attributed to it automatically exists as well.


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