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Look, if she won't take you, Asperger's and all--if she won't love you and your AS, both--then you don't want her.
Find someone who understands that you are a weird, non-normal, disabled person, and loves you not just in spite of but because of that. Find someone who does not want to change you, but who wants to get to know you--someone who wants to share a life together that has Asperger's as a normal part of it.
And the next time a girl tells you you have to "overcome Asperger's" to be a good boyfriend, I want you to turn 180 degrees and walk away. She's not worth it.
If the woman is approaching or over 30, it's pretty easy to understand why she's freaking out. Even if she's ranting and raging, she brings up some pretty important concerns that will make or break the future of any relationship.
My apologies to the OP, but this woman is ready to settle down and raise a family. If you love her, let her go. You'll both be happier in the long run. She's not breaking up with you to "punish" you for doing something wrong, she's breaking up with you because you two are heading down two very different paths in your future.
I think about the only valid concerns she raises is what a nasty piece of work she is if the all those words were hers, and she demonstrably not ready to settle down and raise a family (though whatever give you that idea I'm not sure). An abusive relationship will never work and that's true for anyone.
Its sad because some of this is all a lie. He was not in a relationship. He was obsessed with this girl and she was a friend only. He went to one psychiatrist for figuring out why he lies all the time. Which was a waste of his money because the guy told him he lies to impress people. Well damn I couldve told him that. The second doctor told him he most likely has aspergers or high functioning autism. He never saw that doc again. The third doctor didnt question aspergers or anything. All he did was give him some intellectual tests to test his IQ. His IQ was good. So, how does all that pertain to aspergers??? None of it. Telling him he has an average or above average IQ only suggests that he might actually have aspergers. Because I was told alot of people on the spectrum have high IQ's. After that, he never went to try an get a diagnosis from anyone. He just came home to tell everyone he was smart at some tests. But what I dont get is the tests he was given was almost elementary level. I was in the room, so idk maybe it just seemed easy to ME. But either way, he has had people encourage him to seek some kind of treatment. He has only done what I just wrote. One minute he says he has aspergers, the next he does not know. He has more than enough qualities to show he has aspergers, but he still wont admit it. Regardless of a label put on him, he has not been proactive about seeking help. He already knows he needs help for some certain things, but he would rather go do fun stuff than face reality. His mom has not been there for him, she is bipolar and she told him that his dad is a schizophrenic. His two brothers have mental conditions that left one brother living in a hospital most his life and the other in a halfway home. They are adults now and need supervision. His mom ignored the fact that OP is different. He went to therapy as a kid for depression for being picked on up to highschool. Then he dropped out of highschool. He then sat in his room for 10 years playing video games. He admits to being socially awkward and walking funny. He admits to lacking common sense. He is so naive its scary. He has lived with his sister his whole life and now at age 29 he is on his own. It went bad since living on his own. He is homeless right now. I worry for him. He almost lives in a fantasy world. Its hard to continue to be a friend to you OP if you continue to ignore that you need some help with things. I have done my part. But if you are stubborn, then nobody can help you. Editing the messages you posted, and not sharing ALL the messages is just another sign that you want pity from this website. You need to stop seeking pity. You are 29 and you still call your mom "mommies" when you talk to her and you tell her made up stories so she will pity you and praise you. You leave out major facts all the time. Because you never want anyone to think you were being decietful. Trust me, there is soooo much more to this story with OP and his fake "girlfriend". She was a friend and tried to help him like others have. He was obsessive and hurt her alot. She was frustrated at the very end. So what you read on here is the final straw. The end to everything OP has done. It would be interesting to actually see what he has said and done to his friend he calls "girlfriend". But instead we'll just let the bashing go on about how his friend is horrible and blah blah blah. Ive learned alot that people with aspergers only see what they want to see. So seeing only that this is a mean girl is of course the only thing you see. God forbid OP has put her through hell and hurt her, but none of you would know that. Because you cannot read between the lines. It might of been easier for you all to see that if OP had the guts to show what he has done lol. But I am done here. I dont like seeing friends decieve eachother.
You need to stop talking about him in public like this. If there's anyone who lacks social skills, it's someone who thinks it's A-OK to put someone down repeatedly in front of hundreds of people and then claim it's for his own good.
Elora, take it to PM, or leave. This is absolutely unacceptable behavior.
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Hmm isnt posting personal texts and emails between two people putting it out in the open??? That is his friend he is talking about in PUBLIC. Showing her messges to the public. I will have to let her know. So to me that is considered inappropriate.
If he didnt want his business out in the open, he shouldnt post some of his business and another person's business on here for everyone to see. The only thing is he left out all the stuff HE has done.
I also know op I can honestly say this isnt the whole story ,I personally know that he has done some things to this girl that has hurt and betrayed this girl,and no she was never his girlfriend..She made it clear they were just friends. Of course he would not want anyone to know what he has done.Well I guess he got what he was looking for with all these replies.
I think he wants enemies by the way he treats his friends and then posts all thier private messages on the web. I don't put up with my friends posting things on here about other friends and not posting the WHOLE story. He only posts what he wants people to see. It's sad. So yeah, I will defend people who deserve it. But I won't defend OP when all he wants is pity off of this website. If only I posted all the things he has done to hurt his so called close friends. But nah, I will be more civil than that.
I've been watching this thread for a while, and I have to admit, I've been in several minds whether to post. Rather than having yet another person saying "OP, run away from these people", I tried to get my BF to comment (as someone who has a relationship with a person with mental health issues), but he said the entire thing was too confusing . But I do feel compelled to say something, so I'm sorry in advance if this becomes quite a long post - I'm just thinking out loud.
1. The OP has not reappeared. Why? I can guess at a few reasons: either he's watching and enjoying the support, or he's afraid of confronting Elora et al on a place he felt safe, or he IS Elora et al, reinforcing a pity party. Cynical? Yes, but I've had it happen on another web forum, although that person went far enough to 'die' and be mourned by 'friends' before eventually being found out. My curiosity is raised by how similar Elora, rlg and OP's writing style is, that's all. So I'm taking the OP as an individual with a pinch of salt (in a friendly manner) . But in theory, let's call them indivuduals, since it's easier to talk about.
2. I am extremely concerned by the amount of anger displayed towards the OP by his friends.
3. So far, there have been 3 people post, the OP, Elora and RLG (and the disputed girlfriend has been quoted). They all seem to be in their late 20's. But what troubles me is the level of intolerance and immaturity displayed with each individual. I would be less surprised if they were in their teens, let's put it that way, since that seems to be the level they're functioning on. I'm not intending that as an insult - it's just a 37 yr old's observation on their behaviour. We all change over time.
4. Whilst coming to terms with my mental health issues, I admit that I've done some pretty dumb stuff, and my friends have been hurt by some of the things I've done. I also have a friend with mental health difficulties who is currently in the process of losing our friends due to his actions (way too complicated to relate here). But our friends allowed me back, and they will allow him back too when he's stopped being an ass. Friendship is an organic thing - it grows when fed and withers when starved or poisoned. But it's up to you to decide what type of organism your friendship is - indestructible mint or blight ridden tomatoes (some bitterness towards my greenhouse there, I admit). Basically, friends forgive. People who hold grudges are not friends. Simplistic, but true.
5. I admit, I think Elora, RLG and the girl are toxic for the OP. Not because all people with mental health issues are innocent and deliberately hurt by the evil NT's, since he has obviously caused a lot of anger amongst them, so he's obviously done some things badly. But more because of their rigidity, ingrained bigotry towards those with mental health problems and impatience. As Calista said, trying to make them see how wrong their attitudes are is like banging our heads against a wall. Some people are just very sure of their beliefs, regardless of evidence to the contrary, or social pressure to conform. For example, my uncle believes that Harry Potter is the spawn of the devil because he's a wizard. He's not mentally ill, he's just very, very easily led.
6. Let's talk mental health. No one wakes up one morning and decides that it would be a fantastic idea to have a mental illness or disability. No one. Unfortunately, it's hard to understand for people without the problem, because they have no experience of it, and it looks like the person involved is just being self-serving. This attitude is strongly reinforced by the media, ineffective governmental assistance and ingrained social beliefs. Practically speaking, why would someone enjoy hearing voices telling them to kill? Or having every noise shriek through their head like nails on a blackboard? Or having Depression so crushing that all they can think of to relieve the agony is death? Mental issues are not enjoyable, in part due to the astonishingly ignorant attitudes of society. Most of us try and ignore them, and when that doesn't work, we try to fix them. But medical assistance for the mentally disabled is still barely a notch above trepanning. Physically, doctors can cure many things, but the brain is still a great unexplored continent, regardless of the work of Freud, etc. Saying "Try harder and then you'll get better" is idiotic, not to mention bigoted, and you'll probably find that everyone on here has had that little gem quoted to them by people who don't have a clue what they're talking about. "Smile, it's not that bad" is also a favourite. You can't make people get better from a disability or illness simply by telling them to pull their socks up! It's the equivelent of telling someone with HIV or Cancer that they're not trying hard enough to get better.
Anyway, I've made this post far too long already. Please, think about this before you post again and look at your behaviour and actions from the point of view of the OP. How are you making him feel? Really.
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Try pointing out to him that the Harry Potter books are an allegory of the gospels and Harry is the Jesus of the series, who selflessly died to save the world from destruction and was resurrected at King's Cross.
Try pointing out to him that the Harry Potter books are an allegory of the gospels and Harry is the Jesus of the series, who selflessly died to save the world from destruction and was resurrected at King's Cross.


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This is a support site... not the Jerry Springer show. This is nameless, faceless and anonymous. You have taken this much too close to real life. You aren't just making the OP uncomfortable, you are making other posters and readers of this site uncomfortable by crossing that line.
Please keep your personal business with the OP personal. This isn't the place to air your grievances.

This is the thing, friends or even family always seem to reach the point where they can't accept the reality that they can't always "fix" someone with a mental condition. Rather than accept the futility of such a concept, they decide to throw blame at the person they are trying to "fix" for the failure of an impossible expectation. I think this just proves that there is no such thing as unconditional compassion. These people who want to "fix you" are ultimately selfish beings who will throw you under the bus as soon as they learn they can't make themselves feel good about themselves by making you better. It's completely egocentric. This has taught me to be VERY wary of people trying to "help" me with my issues. I would rather spray my f*****g brains all over the wall than be dragged through the mud by such people. They themselves would be better of sparing themselves the frustration and get on with their precious happy lives. At least they can walk away.
Very true

That tends to be the attitude of the majority of people, interestingly. It's incredibly rare to find someone who is genuinely interested in someone with mental health difficulties, because of the ever-present assumption of attention-seeking. I was lucky, because my mum and most of her friends worked in the mental health industry. I've met people who weren't so lucky and their stories were truly appalling. It just amazes me how intolerant people can be about an illness/disability. Yes, mentally ill people can be annoying to the nth degree, but they're still human beings with feelings, regardless of how the illness/disability forces them to act! A little patience goes a long way

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Maybe I should be more blunt - it is against the site ToS to openly attack another poster - ie: calling him a liar. Personal attacks make many here very uncomfortable even if it has nothing to do with them personally. I do not care about your personal greivance against the OP. I am not passing judgement on who is right or wrong. I do care that you are creating an uncomfortably adversarial atmosphere on a support site and I'm letting you know it is not appreciated.