What is the most common type of autism?

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11 Aug 2011, 6:44 pm

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PDD-NOS is the most common form of autism.
that cant be true even if that is the most common diagnosis.ppd-nos means they dont know or dont have a title for a type of autism you may have,but ppd-nos is not a type of autism


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11 Aug 2011, 6:52 pm

First of all, just to point out, pDD-nos. PPD-NOS isn't anything.

Secondly, while technically PDD-NOS is a form of not!autism, it's also fully accepted as a disorder that is on the autism spectrum at this point.



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11 Aug 2011, 6:57 pm

SuperTrouper wrote:
First of all, just to point out, pDD-nos. PPD-NOS isn't anything.

Secondly, while technically PDD-NOS is a form of not!autism, it's also fully accepted as a disorder that is on the autism spectrum at this point.
im not sure what you mean


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11 Aug 2011, 7:09 pm

Okay, let me see if I can explain this.

There is an umbrella, and there are five disorders under the umbrella. The disorders are, as we know, autistic disorder, Asperger's Disorder, PDD-NOS, Rett's Syndrome, and CDD.

The umbrella itself is called PDD, autism spectrum disorders, or for short, autism.

Thus, PDD-NOS is a type of autism, just like autistic disorder and Asperger's disorder are. It is not autistic disorder, no, but then, neither is Asperger's. It is its own entity, but it is as valid a form of autism as the other two disorders are.



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11 Aug 2011, 7:34 pm

Well one can't actually discard PDD-NOS out of the autism spectrum disorders or invalidate its existence. It would be much as insisting that all people affected by ASD should look, think and and act the same so as to get the diagnosis of autism.

Anything-NOS is a diagnosis by exclusion and usually has to do with the number of signs and symptoms of a disorder a person exhibits, or with their constellation, not with severity.



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11 Aug 2011, 7:57 pm

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Well one can't actually discard PDD-NOS out of the autism spectrum disorders or invalidate its existence. It would be much as insisting that all people affected by ASD should look, think and and act the same so as to get the diagnosis of autism.

Anything-NOS is a diagnosis by exclusion and usually has to do with the number of signs and symptoms of a disorder a person exhibits, or with their constellation, not with severity.
you hit the nail on the head.most people dx with ppd-nos today would probably be put into a new yet to be named type of autism 20 years from now.however next years new system will make that point void though anyway


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11 Aug 2011, 8:00 pm

vermontsavant, it's a D. PDD. Not pPd. Sorry- pet peeve. Huge one.



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11 Aug 2011, 8:29 pm

SuperTrouper wrote:
vermontsavant, it's a D. PDD. Not pPd. Sorry- pet peeve. Huge one.
yea your right i missedspelled it


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11 Aug 2011, 8:58 pm

I've seen quite a lot of Aspies on here, but I don't know much on the statistics.


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11 Aug 2011, 10:57 pm

AlexWelshman wrote:
I think you can have AS, but still have a speech deley


I think it happens that some people get this diagnosis with a speech delay, but if the psychs follow the criteria to a tee, then I think a speech delay rules out AS (which is partly why my diagnosis was changed).


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11 Aug 2011, 11:09 pm

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AS does NOT mean HF.


AS does not necessarily mean mild, but it is on the high-functioning end of the spectrum.

On the dsm V website it says:

-That Asperger disorder is not substantially different from other forms of ‘high functioning’ autism (HFA); i.e. Asperger’s is the part of the autism spectrum with good formal language skills and good (at least Verbal)

So according to the people who design the diagnostic books, Asperger's is HF (but again, not necessarily mild).

It is also important to note that high-functioning does not necessarily mean a person is completely independent.

Also Rett's is no longer considered ASD, or at least it won't be when the DSM-V comes out. It is not being lumped into ASD, but is being removed entirely.


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12 Aug 2011, 2:17 am

littlelily613 wrote:
AlexWelshman wrote:
I think you can have AS, but still have a speech deley


I think it happens that some people get this diagnosis with a speech delay, but if the psychs follow the criteria to a tee, then I think a speech delay rules out AS (which is partly why my diagnosis was changed).
I think it's very unlikely, but there are people who've had a speech deley, but other than that are very Asperger. And there are people who didn't have speech deley who seem more like autistic disorder. Do you think if someone had a speech deley, but other than that they fit the critiria for asperger, would that mean they were just hfa? Yes, I know HFA isn't a diagnostic term!



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12 Aug 2011, 3:03 am

Autism! The disease with so many types that it might as well be called pervasive development pokemon!



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12 Aug 2011, 4:26 am

littlelily613 wrote:
Also Rett's is no longer considered ASD, or at least it won't be when the DSM-V comes out. It is not being lumped into ASD, but is being removed entirely.


Yes, this, however, happened before. The term 'Autism spectrum disorders' used to encompass a group of disorders characterized by speech disorder, communication issues, stereotyped movements and, often, mental retardation manifested as IQ<70. Then, when the genes, defects in which were responsible for the respective disorders were identified, some small part of the ASD group was moved away to another category. This happened for Rett syndrome, Fragile X, tuberous sclerosis, even phenylketonuria, though the metabolic basis of the latter was discovered before Leo Kanner's first paper on autism was published. Such sub-categorization was done because they found that the genetic defect was responsible for more than ASD - as Rett's syndrome FraX and TS sufferers have numerous physical issues as well as autism-related trouble.
It is very difficult to set boundaries between disorders in real patients as their own genetic and metabolic makeup is a great phenotype modifier. That's why sometimes professionals depend on unusual crtiteria such as presence or absence of speech delay.
There is a subgroup of children, for an example, which at first receive a diagnosis of classic autism because of speech delay and all accompanying symptoms and some years later they are practically indistinguishable from some forms of Asperger's - special interests, subtle 'oddness', IQ>average, etc.
Also, in autism regressions are fairly common, so you might have a child without speech delay or even hyperlexic, who, however, lost early milestones, then gained them again, albeit slowly (so as to include CDD) and exhibited multiple sensory issues and needs to stim a lot, like in classic autism.
So unless you know that one started talking only at age 4, you wouldn't know what to put as a diagnosis.



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12 Aug 2011, 11:34 am

Well, I am mild. I have it when people start arguing that there is no severe nor mild to the condition, because there is, but it's so unexplainable. I know of 3 people with really severe Autism, and they all were diagnosed at 2, and although they are all different yadda yadda yadda, they still have the same level of severity of eachother. And I know another person with mild AS like me, and she's a completely different person to me, but has diagnosed AS. She just has a completely different personality and interests, and some symptoms she has which I don't, and vice versa, but this ladie and I still both have mild AS. She's more chatty than I am. She lacks theory of the mind, which I don't. She doesn't have any obsessions, which I do. The list goes on, but we are both mild Aspies, yet two completely different types of people.

I don't look upon intelligence. I look upon how strong most of the traits come out as. All of my traits are mild, and even if they are intense, I am able to hide them.


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12 Aug 2011, 12:45 pm

You can say mild or severe; you just have to remember that those terms have no diagnostic significance or predictive qualities. That is, they aren't officially defined; and they don't tell you anything about any particular skill or trait that the person might have. They are extremely vague and should never be used as a substitute for a more precise catalog of a person's abilities and cognitive traits.


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