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27 Sep 2011, 2:07 pm

Yes.

Now gimme your lunch money.



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27 Sep 2011, 3:14 pm

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The truth is that like any other form of abuse, bullying is damaging and traumatizing and leaves people with psychological scars, sometimes lifelong. Never mind driving some to suicide before they live that long. Bullying doesn't serve a social purpose, as it doesn't really teach anyone how to stand up for themselves. It does the opposite. It also teaches the bullies that violent, antisocial behavior goes unpunished, which is not actually true once they get out of school environments that passively allow children and teens to break the law and assault, harass, batter, and abuse other children and teens. Bullying is a sickness (metaphorically), nothing more.


This.
I do not see any purpose in bullying either. Lucky for me I survived school without getting seriously bullied, and I never teased or bullied anyone either. In college the whole group were bullying a boy with learning difficulties, not because he had learning difficulties, but because he dressed up like a girl but wasn't gay (so they all called him a ''poof''). They took the mickey out of him right in front of him, and he got so upset but they just bullied him all the more. One of the girls even threw empty bottles at his head, humiliating him in front of the whole canteen. I was sitting with these girls, but I felt really sorry for this boy, even though I didn't like him that much because he had said some disgusting things to me through text, like sexually disgusting things, and he didn't let up even after I told him I have a boyfriend and that he shouldn't write smutty dirty things like that. But he was harmless otherwise, and when the girls were all being so nasty to him, I imagined what it would be like if I was in his shoes, and I felt upset for him. I didn't really see the purpose in all that bullying.


Well this would go into the catergory of why Aspies are having issues with having a girlfriend, but also more reasons Aspies have a harder time having a relationship and these females and girls are going for more NTs/Normal Functioning people instead, it is how life is in this decade.



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27 Sep 2011, 3:16 pm

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Do you like bullying?Is it a good thing?Is it fun?What do you think of bullies?


I can feel a troll :O


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27 Sep 2011, 3:43 pm

Bullying and good shouldn't even be in the same sentence together in my opinion. I've heard some people saying that it "builds character."

Bullsh*t. People who say that have either never been bullied, or have picked on people themselves.



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27 Sep 2011, 3:51 pm

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i think that bullies are sometimes sociopaths and therefore cannot be taught to care as they have no conscience.

some other bullies are ex-victims (of peers or family members) who get a chip on their shoulder and turn into bullies themselves (or they may go "postal" in some isolated cases). their view of the world turns hard and jaded.

i don't know think the first type of bully can be changed, but i think that by protecting and educating victims we can prevent some of the second type from forming. i'd say bullying is quite bad for the obvious reasons of the pain they cause, but also they seem to create more bullies in their wake. nothing good can come from that.

there are probably many other ways that bullies come into existence, of course. but these two are ones that i've seen myself.


+1


I also think they bully because they believe they are being picked on so they feel the need to defend themselves but instead they are actually doing the bullying when they think they are just defending themselves.



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27 Sep 2011, 3:52 pm

I don't like bullying, I don't think it's a good thing, It's not "fun," bullies are miserable jealous cowards.

Bullying does not serve a helpful purpose in life. Bullying doesn't actually teach you how to "stand up for yourself" It doesn't teach you how to "fight back" in a real sense, all it does is kill your self esteem, and damage you mentally as well as physically a lot of the time.

You're born with a fight, flight, or freeze reaction to threats, being bullied and standing up to said bully won't suddenly change that forever. I know several people who have gone thorough intense training for self defense, etc. Who were still actually victimized by bad guys in the end. Sure, they could stand up to a bully, but it doesn't mean they can do much else in the face of danger. Sometimes they can't stand up to bullies, either.

Sometimes bullies work in a way that you don't realize you're being bullied, too, just like any other abusers- They can be sly and manipulative.

The problem is how society in a whole deals with them. They forever seem to target the victims, as in they force victims to try to change, than to try to give the bullies the right punishment for the crime. Even in this day, teachers will look the other way if they can get away with doing so, and the victims of bullies can be suspended, even expelled, for standing up for themselves, while the bully might get a detention if anything.



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27 Sep 2011, 3:56 pm

Bullying is actually demonic.You know,at least i never expect demons to be sympathizing,but humans?They cross the line,it is even lower than animalistic,illogical,and in general bad.



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27 Sep 2011, 4:34 pm

JohnyJohn wrote:
Bullying is actually demonic.You know,at least i never expect demons to be sympathizing,but humans?


You never... ever.... EVER? That actually means you expect deamons to be unsympathizing. Why do you expect that?

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...it is even lower than animalistic,illogical,and in general bad.


I dont agree with this, because...

It can be specified exactly! It is.....ANIMALISTIC......ta-daaaa!! !

It is not illogical. Just look at other animals. They also compare the biggest ****. It is a lower form of communication than what human being is capable of.

I agreee that it is in general bad, because it serves no else good but feeding the ego of the bully (if that can be classified as good is even questionable), while it does harm to others.



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27 Sep 2011, 4:42 pm

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The problem is how society in a whole deals with them. They forever seem to target the victims, as in they force victims to try to change, than to try to give the bullies the right punishment for the crime. Even in this day, teachers will look the other way if they can get away with doing so, and the victims of bullies can be suspended, even expelled, for standing up for themselves, while the bully might get a detention if anything.


I've been in this situation. I was bullied when I was 19 by two 14-year-olds, and I know people will laugh at me for letting two school-aged people bully me, but just because they're 14 doesn't mean they're emotionally or physically weaker than me. And I knew and they knew that if I laid a finger on them to defend myself, they will run straight to the police and say that I hit them and will get witnesses who saw me do it, and then I will be in trouble because I was a grown-up and so ''should have known better'' and they were the ''innocent children''. It's always the way. So I just had to let them bully me. They kept on telling me that when they see me they will punch me in the face. Yes, I know sometimes it's all mouth, but in the town where I work, there's some very rough people about, and there's often been fights in the day by sobar people. Often.


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27 Sep 2011, 7:16 pm

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The problem is how society in a whole deals with them. They forever seem to target the victims, as in they force victims to try to change, than to try to give the bullies the right punishment for the crime. Even in this day, teachers will look the other way if they can get away with doing so, and the victims of bullies can be suspended, even expelled, for standing up for themselves, while the bully might get a detention if anything.


I've been in this situation. I was bullied when I was 19 by two 14-year-olds, and I know people will laugh at me for letting two school-aged people bully me, but just because they're 14 doesn't mean they're emotionally or physically weaker than me. And I knew and they knew that if I laid a finger on them to defend myself, they will run straight to the police and say that I hit them and will get witnesses who saw me do it, and then I will be in trouble because I was a grown-up and so ''should have known better'' and they were the ''innocent children''. It's always the way. So I just had to let them bully me. They kept on telling me that when they see me they will punch me in the face. Yes, I know sometimes it's all mouth, but in the town where I work, there's some very rough people about, and there's often been fights in the day by sobar people. Often.


Kind of what some parts of the Internet have become that peopple younger than 21 trying to bully older people but only when they have a Autism or a related disorder that may cause these issues and such.



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27 Sep 2011, 7:20 pm

No not really. Though social Darwinists might think so.



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27 Sep 2011, 7:30 pm

Joe90 wrote:
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The problem is how society in a whole deals with them. They forever seem to target the victims, as in they force victims to try to change, than to try to give the bullies the right punishment for the crime. Even in this day, teachers will look the other way if they can get away with doing so, and the victims of bullies can be suspended, even expelled, for standing up for themselves, while the bully might get a detention if anything.


I've been in this situation. I was bullied when I was 19 by two 14-year-olds, and I know people will laugh at me for letting two school-aged people bully me, but just because they're 14 doesn't mean they're emotionally or physically weaker than me. And I knew and they knew that if I laid a finger on them to defend myself, they will run straight to the police and say that I hit them and will get witnesses who saw me do it, and then I will be in trouble because I was a grown-up and so ''should have known better'' and they were the ''innocent children''. It's always the way. So I just had to let them bully me. They kept on telling me that when they see me they will punch me in the face. Yes, I know sometimes it's all mouth, but in the town where I work, there's some very rough people about, and there's often been fights in the day by sobar people. Often.



Sadly this is so true when I was approx 15 I was bullied by people not much younger than myself 10-11 (physical/verbal) I once sucker punched one of the suckers and they went and cried to their Mommy than I had their big bully brother who was twice my age smash my face in to the ground (what a man) (bullyism runs in family's you see)

Sadly you've got more chance of winning the war on terrorism than say bullyisim. (I'm being serious)


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27 Sep 2011, 8:34 pm

I like these kinds of bullies:

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27 Sep 2011, 9:32 pm

Maje wrote:
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...it is even lower than animalistic,illogical,and in general bad.


I dont agree with this, because...

It can be specified exactly! It is.....ANIMALISTIC......ta-daaaa!! !

It is not illogical. Just look at other animals. They also compare the biggest ****. It is a lower form of communication than what human being is capable of.

I agreee that it is in general bad, because it serves no else good but feeding the ego of the bully (if that can be classified as good is even questionable), while it does harm to others.


No, bullying is not animalistic- Animals don't "Bully" others, and bullies don't get to be actual alpha males/ females for the greater good of the pack, which is why there are alpha leaders in other animals. They don't terrorize or abuse their pack members mentally or physically because they can, and they get the respect they properly earn. It also ensures the order needed to survive. To compare bullying to a pack mentality is ridiculous at best.



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27 Sep 2011, 10:49 pm

Many tried to bully me as a child.
Few succeeded.
I used to be a very angry person. :oops:

When kids stole my lunch in high school, I made them eat dirt... when a boy kicked over my sandcastle in preK, I made a bite mark on my own arm and told the teacher that he bit me... when a girl in elementary school told me I wasn't allowed to drink from "her" water fountain, I told her to "put a sock in it" and withstood two separate detentions for refusing to apologize for my "harsh words."

I've grown up a lot since then though. I dare say, it's a lot easier to live when you don't have to dwell on revenge constantly. 8)



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28 Sep 2011, 12:03 am

Fern wrote:
Many tried to bully me as a child.
Few succeeded.
I used to be a very angry person. :oops:

When kids stole my lunch in high school, I made them eat dirt... when a boy kicked over my sandcastle in preK, I made a bite mark on my own arm and told the teacher that he bit me... when a girl in elementary school told me I wasn't allowed to drink from "her" water fountain, I told her to "put a sock in it" and withstood two separate detentions for refusing to apologize for my "harsh words."

I've grown up a lot since then though. I dare say, it's a lot easier to live when you don't have to dwell on revenge constantly. 8)

Inspirational, this is what I meant by fighting in my earlier post in this thread. We should respond to these bullies in their own language.