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25 Feb 2012, 9:56 pm

For some when they have Talents/Special Interests that they can attain in the real world Autism is a literally a gift from God. If you have average intelligence, suck at math or have no real interests Autism is more or less a lifelong demon that you battle yet nobody understands.

For everyone out there that has Aspie 'pride', good for you. I'm genuinely happy that you've found peace in yourself.



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25 Feb 2012, 10:06 pm

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For some when they have Talents/Special Interests that they can attain in the real world Autism is a literally a gift from God. If you have average intelligence, suck at math or have no real interests Autism is more or less a lifelong demon that you battle yet nobody understands.

For everyone out there that has Aspie 'pride', good for you. I'm genuinely happy that you've found peace in yourself.


It's so much more complicated than that and not black and white. You can have spectacular talent but not be able to talk or effectively advocate and unless you have a support network like family you can trust to help you're screwed just as much as someone without any special gift to go with the handicap.

I'm happy too that some feel good about their situation but they likely have that love and support which allows this.



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25 Feb 2012, 10:08 pm

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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.


While I don't believe in luck, I do agree with the position about the bigger mountain to climb. I can remember listening to the Kermit the Frog song "It's Not Easy Being Green." They ought to do one about how hard it is to be an aspie.

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People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed. Luck is a factor many times.



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25 Feb 2012, 10:11 pm

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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.
The word Spectrumite makes me feel like a Termite or a Mineral of some kind. :cry:


If you have a better choice of words to use in that sentence, please inform me. I don't want you going around feeling like a termite or a mineral.



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25 Feb 2012, 10:14 pm

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For some when they have Talents/Special Interests that they can attain in the real world Autism is a literally a gift from God. If you have average intelligence, suck at math or have no real interests Autism is more or less a lifelong demon that you battle yet nobody understands.

For everyone out there that has Aspie 'pride', good for you. I'm genuinely happy that you've found peace in yourself.


I can certainly relate to the life long demon. I never said that having what we have was easy. I concur. It is a thorn in the side and we carry it with us like a suitcase all of our lives. I fought this life long demon for 47 years before I knew just what and where this demon was. It's no picnic - no doubt about it. But we have to try.

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25 Feb 2012, 10:20 pm

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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.
The word Spectrumite makes me feel like a Termite or a Mineral of some kind. :cry:


If you have a better choice of words to use in that sentence, please inform me. I don't want you going around feeling like a termite or a mineral.
Yes, I was just trying to chew on a stick, not pleasant. D:


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25 Feb 2012, 10:51 pm

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I don't actually think I'm superior to anybody else. But sometimes, in my frustration, it feels like it. Just because others treat me differently. THEY have a problem with me, which is illogical, so I in turn have a problem with them. Yes, I stoop to their level. I try not to, but it happens.

As somebody else pointed out, our "gifts" come at a price. Everybody has their plusses and minuses, ups and downs, gifts and weaknesses. So nobody is better than anybody else. My problem with sometimes feeling superior is due to being treated inferior by people making irrational decisions (read idiotic actions). They treat me as an inferior, while at the same time making irrational decisions? Really? Umm. Uhh. It really boggles my mind! It's possible that "sometimes" theirs some jealousy involved? But I think they know they'd rather be like they are, than like we are. I guess they just wish they had it all? Well, for that matter, so do I! :D

Can't we all just get along?! :D


well said! In my experience there has been many people that wish they had my gifts but none that want the issues that come with it.

"irrational decisions" my interpetation >emotion driven logic

"I guess they just wish they had it all" > all the good and none of the bad


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25 Feb 2012, 10:58 pm

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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.


While I don't believe in luck, I do agree with the position about the bigger mountain to climb. I can remember listening to the Kermit the Frog song "It's Not Easy Being Green." They ought to do one about how hard it is to be an aspie.

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People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed. Luck is a factor many times.


That is being judgmental. I used to believe in luck - until I turned away from the atheisim that my parents raised me with and came to know Christ as my Savior. Now I believe in the sovereignty of God. I believe that God has a plan and that our destinies are, in the end, determined by Him. You may not have meant to be offensive. But that is how it comes across to me. I don't consider myself big-headed and neither does my wife or about 550 other people who have come to know me over the years.

To me, the luck theory has a lot of holes in it. This is something gleaned by over seventeen years of bible study. I don't expect you to understand or agree with it. But I do not see the reason to be insulted over it.

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25 Feb 2012, 11:01 pm

There is no such thing as luck, but there is good variance :D . Which sounds very nerdy, so I usually say luck in front of people



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25 Feb 2012, 11:04 pm

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I don't actually think I'm superior to anybody else. But sometimes, in my frustration, it feels like it. Just because others treat me differently. THEY have a problem with me, which is illogical, so I in turn have a problem with them. Yes, I stoop to their level. I try not to, but it happens.

As somebody else pointed out, our "gifts" come at a price. Everybody has their plusses and minuses, ups and downs, gifts and weaknesses. So nobody is better than anybody else. My problem with sometimes feeling superior is due to being treated inferior by people making irrational decisions (read idiotic actions). They treat me as an inferior, while at the same time making irrational decisions? Really? Umm. Uhh. It really boggles my mind! It's possible that "sometimes" theirs some jealousy involved? But I think they know they'd rather be like they are, than like we are. I guess they just wish they had it all? Well, for that matter, so do I! :D

Can't we all just get along?! :D


well said! In my experience there has been many people that wish they had my gifts but none that want the issues that come with it.

"irrational decisions" my interpetation >emotion driven logic

"I guess they just wish they had it all" > all the good and none of the bad


Amen, Brother Gadge! Good seeing you!

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25 Feb 2012, 11:14 pm

Longshanks wrote:
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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.


While I don't believe in luck, I do agree with the position about the bigger mountain to climb. I can remember listening to the Kermit the Frog song "It's Not Easy Being Green." They ought to do one about how hard it is to be an aspie.

Longshanks


People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed. Luck is a factor many times.


That is being judgmental. I used to believe in luck - until I turned away from the atheisim that my parents raised me with and came to know Christ as my Savior. Now I believe in the sovereignty of God. I believe that God has a plan and that our destinies are, in the end, determined by Him. You may not have meant to be offensive. But that is how it comes across to me. I don't consider myself big-headed and neither does my wife or about 550 other people who have come to know me over the years.

To me, the luck theory has a lot of holes in it. This is something gleaned by over seventeen years of bible study. I don't expect you to understand or agree with it. But I do not see the reason to be insulted over it.

Longshanks


Offensive? That's funny coming from you as I did notice a couple of your RATHER offensive posts. I wasn't at all offensive by saying big-headed. Some people are in fact so full of themselves they can't handle the slightest degree of constructive feedback. Being a Christian doesn't give you any special status either.



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25 Feb 2012, 11:42 pm

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eigerpere wrote:
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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.


While I don't believe in luck, I do agree with the position about the bigger mountain to climb. I can remember listening to the Kermit the Frog song "It's Not Easy Being Green." They ought to do one about how hard it is to be an aspie.

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People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed. Luck is a factor many times.


That is being judgmental. I used to believe in luck - until I turned away from the atheisim that my parents raised me with and came to know Christ as my Savior. Now I believe in the sovereignty of God. I believe that God has a plan and that our destinies are, in the end, determined by Him. You may not have meant to be offensive. But that is how it comes across to me. I don't consider myself big-headed and neither does my wife or about 550 other people who have come to know me over the years.

To me, the luck theory has a lot of holes in it. This is something gleaned by over seventeen years of bible study. I don't expect you to understand or agree with it. But I do not see the reason to be insulted over it.

Longshanks


Offensive? That's funny coming from you as I did notice a couple of your RATHER offensive posts. I wasn't at all offensive by saying big-headed. Some people are in fact so full of themselves they can't handle the slightest degree of constructive feedback. Being a Christian doesn't give you any special status either.


I never asked for special status, though it's rather obvious that you think you have it. Have a nice life.

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25 Feb 2012, 11:56 pm

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eigerpere wrote:
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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.


While I don't believe in luck, I do agree with the position about the bigger mountain to climb. I can remember listening to the Kermit the Frog song "It's Not Easy Being Green." They ought to do one about how hard it is to be an aspie.

Longshanks


People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed. Luck is a factor many times.


That is being judgmental. I used to believe in luck - until I turned away from the atheisim that my parents raised me with and came to know Christ as my Savior. Now I believe in the sovereignty of God. I believe that God has a plan and that our destinies are, in the end, determined by Him. You may not have meant to be offensive. But that is how it comes across to me. I don't consider myself big-headed and neither does my wife or about 550 other people who have come to know me over the years.

To me, the luck theory has a lot of holes in it. This is something gleaned by over seventeen years of bible study. I don't expect you to understand or agree with it. But I do not see the reason to be insulted over it.

Longshanks


Offensive? That's funny coming from you as I did notice a couple of your RATHER offensive posts. I wasn't at all offensive by saying big-headed. Some people are in fact so full of themselves they can't handle the slightest degree of constructive feedback. Being a Christian doesn't give you any special status either.



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People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed.

How is that comment NOT being offensive
I'm an athiest and I don't believe in luck so I suppose I've got a big head as well ?

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I wasn't at all offensive by saying big-headed

so its alright if I say your narrow minded if you believe youve got to have luck play some role in what you can or can't do
Luck has nothing to do with it, its about determination, not relying on others, and making it happen.
if you haven't the skills to promote oneself then learn them
I don't rely on anyone to do anything for me, I do it myself.
If I don't know I ask or learn how to without making excusses about luck or lack of it.


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25 Feb 2012, 11:59 pm

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Longshanks wrote:
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Longshanks wrote:
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Same as the NT population, some folks get lucky breaks and isn't always a matter of incredible skill, talent or capability, though it plays a part. Spectrumites have a much bigger mountain to climb, and it's a spectrum so the climb is that much more steep for some than it is for others on the spectrum. I'm mostly saying it's tough to have talents and not have the skills needed to promote oneself. And having to depend on others can be an absolute nightmare.


While I don't believe in luck, I do agree with the position about the bigger mountain to climb. I can remember listening to the Kermit the Frog song "It's Not Easy Being Green." They ought to do one about how hard it is to be an aspie.

Longshanks


People who don't believe in luck are usually big-headed. Luck is a factor many times.


That is being judgmental. I used to believe in luck - until I turned away from the atheisim that my parents raised me with and came to know Christ as my Savior. Now I believe in the sovereignty of God. I believe that God has a plan and that our destinies are, in the end, determined by Him. You may not have meant to be offensive. But that is how it comes across to me. I don't consider myself big-headed and neither does my wife or about 550 other people who have come to know me over the years.

To me, the luck theory has a lot of holes in it. This is something gleaned by over seventeen years of bible study. I don't expect you to understand or agree with it. But I do not see the reason to be insulted over it.

Longshanks


Offensive? That's funny coming from you as I did notice a couple of your RATHER offensive posts. I wasn't at all offensive by saying big-headed. Some people are in fact so full of themselves they can't handle the slightest degree of constructive feedback. Being a Christian doesn't give you any special status either.


I never asked for special status, though it's rather obvious that you think you have it. Have a nice life.

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There's no indication at all I think I have special status with my reply to your post because I don't.



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26 Feb 2012, 12:07 am

@Gadge - If you don't understand what I meant by saying that then you aren't using your noggin.



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26 Feb 2012, 12:17 am

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@Gadge - If you don't understand what I meant by saying that then you aren't using your noggin.


then stop being so narrow minded and relying on others and luck.

use YOUR noggin

so what now your gonna call me stupid because I choose not to rely on others, or dumb luck. < pun intended !


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