Are you self-supporting, on disability, or what?

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You make it sound so easy. Is there really a job out there for someone with noise sensitivity and sight impairment?

It already is. Why do you think that it isn't? Welfare was ended under Clinton, 20 years ago. There is now only "workfare," which you can't get without working.

As far as disability payments, you can't get that on the basis of not liking your job. You need doctors supporting your case, and even then it's difficult to get approved.


How do you know? Because people on the radio tell you stories that aren't true?

Yes. I work one.

There's plenty of stuff a person can do at all levels. Noise sensitivity could allow for things like house cleaning, library work, stock room stocking...

It CAN be done. Thinking someone with mental or developmental issues can't EVER work their entire lives is doing them a disservice. They CAN. Sometimes it takes treatment and rehab, but they can do it. Especially if there's no welfare to fall back on.

Actually, I've worked with many people to find them jobs. Many have serious disabilities and bad injuries, but we aided them in finding jobs they CAN do.

It's amazing how anti-work people can be. You work to live. Society can't support everyone.

Which is why you train for and seek a job you CAN do... not those you can't.

An employer doesn't know your life story at the interview. They don't know how you'll perform, except by what you tell them and your work history. If no work history, there are plenty of employers that are willing to hire those without work experience. Furthermore, there are organizations that work with, train, and place persons with disabilities. In those instances, the employers know the person's disability, as they came from a disability workplace support organization, and work with them... often giving them more patience than other employer's.

And, yes, you have to be willing to start entry level sometimes, or, say, be a library janitor. Doing that is self-sufficient, contributes to society, and helps you move ahead in life. It's more than possible if you find jobs you CAN do and are willing to do any "class" of work.

When I was 22, I was prone to panic attacks and found going past the mailbox exhausting from sheer stress. I did eventually find ways around it. My dad repeatedly attributed it to lack of maturity. Back then I took serious offence to that, but looking back on those years, I have to admit he was right. I did experience a developmental delay and at 22 I was not yet ready to be on my own. During most of my 30's I worked at a primate sanctuary. -- that place was as much a sanctuary for me as for the residents. Almost no people around, and lots of critters to socialize with.

Put your hacking hat on and look at your situation again. How things are now is not necessarily how they will be 10 or 20 years from now. Put your hacking hat on and think outside the box. Look at your special interests and related subjects, and dare to dream of something you CAN do. Where there is a will, and enough time, there is always a way.

All my work history includes getting fired because I could not keep up and came off as screwed up in the head, I am sure that is really something to brag about. And no amount of training is going to change the fact that if I am in too stressful of an environment I will probably flip out and hurt myself, others or damage any work equipment around.........its not in their best interest to hire me so why should they?

And I know you think I think I am above certain jobs even though I already explained its more like I think I am below most jobs....I would not mind doing entry level work but who is going to hire someone who cannot work with people and who could freak out and damage things at prett much any minute. Also I really don't care about this society.......it never gave a damn about me so why shouldn't I return the favor and not give a damn about it.

I don't see what you keep going on about class for.......I am flat broke and too dysfunctional to work most jobs, what the hell kind of class is that? that is more like below even having a class. And when I end up homeless because my family is full of drama and people who set me off I am sure it will be very classy . Anyways if someone wants to hire me I'd work...........but who wants to hire me and if they do why wouldn't they fire me when they find I am too slow and too likely to go off on the other employees, customers or whatever equipment is around.

What special interests?

If you truly have no special interests, then look at your ordinary interests. What do you enjoy doing? What do you find interesting?

Finding people who are injured jobs is not the same as finding people who are disabled jobs. If SSA declared them to be disabled then how did you find them jobs? Oh yeah, because they weren't actually disabled.

What did you do when their income was too low to cover medical expenses, but high enough that their SSDI/SSI and Medicare eligibility was threatened?

Society doesn't even come close to supporting everyone.

Anti-work? That's because there is no such thing as disability, only a lack of desire to work? That there tells me that you are an ideologue who is not interested in reality.

Bingo.

With time, training, treatment, etc., most people CAN work at some job at some point.

Yeah, 10 or 20 years can change many things. People thinking "oh, I'll never work" and having it in their heads that the only thing they can ever do is be dependent on society is... sad. Find a way to do what you CAN do. Thinking "oh, but I'll flip out"... so find something you WON'T flip out on. Get therapy, meds, whatever... instead of bumming around relying on society forever. Willpower overcomes many, many obstacles. Like you say, "where there is a will, and enough time, there is always a way."

Or even thinking about what you're physically capable of doing.

If you're out of shape, going into construction and manual labor isn't the best idea.
If you can't stand people, customer service isn't the best idea ever.

So many people just think "I'll just get fired.. no one will ever hire me.. I can't do any job." Newsflash, yes, you can... IF you try. "Ever" is a long time, and... I find it hard to believe people saying that when they're teens or twenties. That age means they're not old enough to have tried for decades to get a job. It's giving up before you've even started. And, no, a few years of temp jobs, getting fired, and job applications is not lifelong trying. When you fail or get fired, honestly evaluate what went wrong. Then, make changes in your life and try again at something you're more likely to succeed it. Education, looking at interests and abilities, special accommodations, etc. plus willpower and honestly looking at what you can't and can do can help a person find a job they can do.

It's not even trying to support our own lives that gives us a bad name.

I would have thought that counts as self-supporting. You paid into your Social Security and pension plan for long enough - nobody's given you any free handouts. You didn't even retire early. Until very recently women in the UK had a normal retirement age of 60. But as usual the bankers got their sums wrong and now they're trying to fob their problems off on the rest of us.

It's not just about training and treatment. Some employers are quite ignorant when it comes to disability. I'm "lucky" that the assistant where I volunteer, is sight impaired. The job I've possibly been offered, the man's son has Autism.

How and where do you get all this training and treatment with no money and no insurance?

I suppose I could work if these things were met (typical box stacking work; can't organize self-employment):

Someone drove me to work and picked me up
no one told me what to do other than a list of things that had to be done
said things that need to be done have to be a part of a plan that doesn't change (I do this only at that time)
nothing spontaneous put on me
people don't talk to me
people aren't around me
I can have breaks whenever I wanted (I'd get the work done)
all of the paperwork and whatnot (bank stuff) is done for me

Government thought I was too much of a bother (they'll get anyone a job if you have a single iota of ability).