Aspergers and Drug Use

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yes YES!! I do!! Big time!!

I actually started meditating with it - You have no idea how well I can picture things in this state!

Questions were answered I wasn't even aware I needed to ask but I did. Answers were found to questions I couldnt answer for years! Why do you think I'm here?

I can give you an interesting link comparing pot to meditation - you may enjoy it based on this 'thinking more rounded' thing.. I dont know if this is the one I normally use or if it applies:

http://www.benefitsofmarijuana.com/benefits.html

I'm actually trying to figure out why people become more creative or, like you and I, can think better and discover answers while high.

So far I have one study stating potential in growing brain neurons
Another report saying it blocks Alzeheimers progression, which is basically saying it prevents 'brain decay' which the 'brain neuron' study compliments.. but i only have 2 limited reports

yup definately seem to get similar experiences to that.....expect one difference...i am totally non-visual(so far)....when i close my eyes...it's pitch black....can't bring images etc up at all... i am good with music...can replay songs etc...but stuffed if i can visualize anything.. apparently it is learnable: http://www.winwenger.com/imstream.htm but im sorta scared of it happening for some bizarre reason...like i may not be able to switch it back off

maybe i have a lazy 3rd eye...

cool on the links...yeah i put some up aswell b4....for reference here they r again:

say 'know to drugs' imo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 29_pf.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm

http://www.usask.ca/research/communicat ... n_head.pdf

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I'm on drugs of a different kind. I'm on Anit-depressents under my Doctor's orders. I've tried pot, once and I didn't like the effect that it had on me.

thats a bummer cockney...

not big on anti depressants tho i must say as i think depressed is a mood/state that should be explored...

i mean ignorance is bliss! every happy person is only a wikipedia session away from a good depression

If you consider cannabis to be a psychedelic drug, then the ability to think more creatively or philosophically while under the influence is a common symptom of this type of drug.

This usually happened to me, and I appreciated the effect. I think it helped me do CBT on occation, and to critically evaluate myself and my life. But unfourtunately, I also get that "impaired concentration" effect, so I can't meditate, nor can I seem to focus my thoughts. They flit from one subject to the next quite quickly. I have some friends of my SO that claim they enter "the zone" upon using cannabis, but I do not experience this. When they say "the zone" I think they mean they hone their abilities and concentration.

Is visual experience with cannabis normal? I've had some strange experiences, none unpleasant, but it has been a cause for concern. First time it was an audio hallucination. Sounded like children playing in a playground? Laughing and giggling all, and sounding happy. I was very concerned because I was in the bathroom at the time, and the volume of the laughter was quite loud.

I've had some visual experiences. I saw the image of an alien projected onto the glass door in my apartment for one second. Not the first time I saw alien(s).
Another time, while I was trying to sleep, I saw the image of a lizard man or woman. Only their bust. They didn't look scary, and the look of the eyes somehow suggested it was sentient or able to be compassionate? I always experience closed-eye hallucinations virtually every night, drugs or not, but this was the first time I saw something other than geometric or kalideoscope-like patterns. But one time I did see these shapes and patterns with my eyes were open while under the influence. My night vision is extremely poor, but I was seeing a rainbow coloured intricate pattern that changed fluidly every second or so ad this encompassed my entire field of vison. This was when I was trying to go to sleep one night, and it was very distracting.

Not really sure of the meaning of all that. I am almost strictly a visual learner. I mean, I have to remember some things differently than others. Writing and drawing, then memorizing what that looks like is how I usually study. For example, I could not tell you my bank PIN number (not like I'm going to ). Because I could only tell another person if I were standing in front of a keypad. I remember the number based on what I remember it looks like to enter it. As for driving places, I don't remember street names well but what streets look like and all. I'm not sure if I explained that very well.

I tried lots of drugs, still do a few of them.

heres a list of the drugs I dont do anymore (Ill briefly explain why)

Mushrooms: at least 12 times, every time I feel almost NT, but it just upsets me in the end cause I go back to AS.

LSD/LSA: 5-6 times, this drug is horrible for aspies, avoid it. If you must do it, just stick to two times at the most, anymore and you run the risk of developing horrible social paranoia and increased negative AS symptoms

Pot: smoked for about two years, it ruined me socially, but I find if I am with the right group of people I become insanely hilarious and full of humor... I think Im allergic...

Ecstasy: 5-6 times, this drug is a good time, but I hate the after effect and the "fake" feeling of the high...

Salvia: 20 times, this drug is wierd, doesnt really last long enought to affect me too negatively, but I've given up on smoking in general soo....

Nitrous: inumerable, this drug is really fun, but I could feel my intelligence dropping, so I only have em on my birthday, if that.


I have had several prescriptions, such as adderall and dextramphentamine, those are really fun, like X without the crash...

As for drugs I still do:

Alchohol: Is an amazing drug for me... it allows me to let go and feel confident, which is where most of my issues arise. I hardly ever feel "stupid" just happy. Ignorance is bliss, and so is being able to forget about all your social issues...

Occasional Cigar with my beer.

Caffiene&Tyrosine: These two are almost as good as alchohol, except they fit better into a working day. With the tyrosine, my thoughts are balanced in a more positive relating sort of direction, and the caffiene makes me a bit more outgoing.

I noticed when I was into drugs, how my AS tendencies seemed to appear in my obessesiveness with being the one in the know when it came to marajuana news, drug facts, or weed strains. I was the drug guru... after a while it got old, and everytime I would smoke I would just get quiet and go to sleep... I was seriously addicted, smoked nearly three times a day for about a year...

Yup!

I like pot. But I don't go out of my way to get it, and haven't smoked for quite a while.

That's a sweeping generalization and contrary to my own experience.

Yeah if what you said was true Tweeks it would be an extremely important research
finding concerning the mechanistic action of AS. Buy the way SSRIs are very good
at reducing the effects of serotonin antagonist like LSD (though many street users tend to report the opposite). I feel far more social on SSRI's so your theory may not
be completely insane. But anyway nobodies going to take drugs like LSD very often
(if they do that a whole different can of worms). The pleasant effects may outway any temporary social cognition problems in a infrequent user of serotonin antagonist.

tweeks..

>Mushrooms: at least 12 times, every time I feel almost NT, but it just upsets me in the end cause I go back to AS.

i can relate to this i think..not the upset bit....but i feel when im on them... that i could see the 'magic' of just existing etc....more than i could in a normal state....really depends on dosage too... but yeah...i have definately had the exact thought ' i wonder if its like this for NT's all the time etc.... obviously not the whole experience..but the way u feel about the world in particular...dunno tis interesting..

on the dosage...seems like a little bit....just gives u the giggles(for me...different giggles than are associated with pot say....these ones...u sorta want to cover urself with a blanket...and be totally alone with them....whereas pot is more sharing giggliness with friends etc) and makes u feel very high spirited....whereas with a higher dose...u start getting a more mystical experience...as in experiencing things that maybe u don't perceive in a normal state...

the downside/problems i have/had with them....is i seem to have a highly sensitive stomach....which tends to make me throw up sometimes when i've taken them... i blame my mother for this....she has heaps of food allergies

for reference the main active ingredient in shrooms is psilocybin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin

on a side note....has anyone tried DMT?....from what i've read....that seems like quite a ride! a book has been written about it here: http://www.rickstrassman.com/ also DMT seems to be what is secreted from our pineal glands allowing us to dream at night etc...and also in near death experiences/death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

I'm sick on them unless I eat first. Have been sick on acid on an empty stomach too.

>I'm sick on them unless I eat first. Have been sick on acid on an empty stomach too.

hmm ok cool....will hafta try that...cos yeah have actually previously tried to have an empty stomach eheh....thought it would be good for the best effect....doh

Many factors played a role in my addiction. It was primarily to escape reality, but I was also a "psychonaut" enjoy the occasional acid/dxm/salvia/mescaline trip. I loved the heroin and cannabis feelings. Sometimes, I would be lucky with the hash batch and it would create a very intense feeling in my head... As long as I could close my eyes and feel my body sink into the matress while rotating around its own axis, I was satisfied...

Now I'm not going to give any lecture here, but please consider quitting drugs.

I never hallucinate, audio or visual, and all thoughts I have are 'mine.' As far as 'entering' the zone, that won't happen without practice. I've read one can't really expect to have perfect focus/concentration right off the bat, that takes time. And thoughts jumping from one thing to the next, thats perfectly normal, thats an indication of just how truely active and busy your mind is. Time will slow that stuff down and, personally speaking, I've found myself brutally in the moment

Rev:

>>>Now I'm not going to give any lecture here, but please consider quitting drugs.

one of the def'ns of lecture: a speech of warning --- ie. but please consider quitting drugs.

if u quit drugs...u would die....water is a drug

also...u give all these positive experiences....then say...don't do it..it's bad mmkay

which leads me to believe...u would take ur experiences back if u had the chance?

isn't it more about being in control of dosage...knowing what ur body can handle etc?

>>>There have been reports about pot smokers with purple blood! This is no joke.

purple blood eh....if its not a joke...why am i laffin