Autism, just a temporary fashion...

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I've never had a problem with either of my psychologists.

Don't generalize.

i didnt read it as a generalization, there were qualifiers involved "at least in my neck of the woods"

i had a therapist that suited me quite well for a time, havent been to any since her.

the first one i tried however was very abrasive and rude about certain topics, like why i get stressed, with the phrase "suck it up" being a repeat offender.

I had a bad therapist years ago. She was basically the only show in town, and she put together a support group for BPD and she wanted me in it not necessarily because I had BPD but for the "socialization". Crazy idea? So she sat me down in her office, handed me the DSM opened to the BPD page and a notebook and told me to write her no less than 5 pages on why *I* thought I did or did not have BPD, and the reasons for that, and bring it back. I wrote more pages than she asked for, was quite convinced I did not have it after really thinking about it, and she agreed but just wanted to make sure I had that firmly in my head before putting me in a room full of people with it for regular sessions. The writing exercise was the only good thing she did as a therapist, and I would recommend it to anybody who wasn't sure.

It was clear to everybody in therapy that I did not fit, but they liked having me there (stable element, lol) and I learned a lot from them. I felt many of them were probably misdiagnosed by doctors who simply wouldn't take the time to figure out what was really going on, or solve the problem. They say "If you ignore the problem it won't go away" but most of them don't do a very good job of living by example. Those that do are great.

If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and 3 experts in ducks agree it's a duck...it only makes somebody look like they are in denial of reality to insist it's a goose because ducks are a fad. Who's confused here?
Definitely want to walk away from that one.

So far I know there are usually 3 reasons why somebody can get a BPD diagnosis:
1. the person has really Borderline
2. no one really knows what the person has and they have to diagnose something
3. the patient is difficult

I addmit, I was #3 when I was by that shrink.

I NEED my routines and stuff and she was just messing me up and talking all the time with a double meaning and stuff, getting mad when I didn't understand it or looking confused, telling me that it was clear. And then I just freaked out and got a total melt down and couldn't really calm myself down for days...!




Well yeah, in future I'll just go to duck specialists, they understand me.

I have to addmit, that I have a lot of times trouble with "normal shrinks".
Espessially because I am very narrow mindet when it comes to my routines and after a certain poin I just freak out and get a meld down, when they continue trying to force me to change them.

This is indeed how it goes here. My condition was a mystery to all, no therapist understood how someone as kind, intelligent, nice and social as me was so massively rejected, plus I didn't pretend to buy a therapist's views just because they're the so-called experts. So that made me 2 and 3 and I was diagnosed with BPD even though I had zero of the BPD traits.

It didn't create a problem for me, though, because I never took that dx seriously, anyway. Besides, it shortened my way to finding AS, by making me think in terms of disorders as one possibility to my social failure.

I noticed that a lot of autistics don't do that.
I also didn't do that and had still my own mind. My therapist was even mad at me that I still believed being autistic just because she believed otherwise.
But I noticed that a lot of NTs just copy the opinion about themselfs that their shrink has and I never quite understood that.

Oh and the biggest joke was, that for her I don't have depressions, but borderline mood swings, because now after constantly having depressions since the beginning of therapy (and even befor) a 3/4 year ago I feel a lot better. So for her, besides my melt downs, just Borderline mood swings.
And befor I felt better she never doupted my depressions, not even once, but after, that long time I was nearly depression free within a short time (it was from one appointment to the next, I was there just all 4 weeks. But actually my mood is now mixed, but she didn't notice that) and for her that is clearly borderline mood swings. I thought that's really a joke.

So how I understood it, my psychiatrist toled me that I have those 3 diagnoses at the moment and that those 3 will stand on the report in the end:

- Borderline tendencies (I don't even fullfill 5 criterias how I understood it, or I don't know)
- HFA
- Transsexualism

Depression was replaced with Borderline tendencies.
But I will find out for sure in around 3 weeks when she'll give me the report.

I find those 3 diagnoses together more than strange and don't understand why she want's to leave HFA as diagnoses, but tells me that she doesn't believe in it...!

Maybe the enviromental influences they mean are chemical or immunological (in the womb), not psychotherapy. Epigenetics.

By the sounds of it, the BPD "diagnosis" ought to be a "V.a." (Verdacht auf) which is meaningless because anyone can put a V.a. diagnosis onto someone they haven't even tested for anything yet.

Maybe though, it'll say "Tendenzen/tendencies" for real which is about as reasonable and helpful as reports saying someone has "autistische Züge/autistic features" that could be caused by an ASD or might just be a product of another disorder completely unrelated to autism.

If you think that you don't have a BPD, I'd get it ruled out to have the mention discarded from future reports. Albeit not meaning anything beyond that this one psychiatrist suspects that you might have some form of BPD or features of the disorder, reading it in your report may bias another professional.

(In case you think you might have it or aren't sure, I found that a kind and sweet former friend of mine benefited a lot from the full-fledged diagnosis/official recognition because she agreed with it and was relieved to finally be able to talk about her issues and symptoms and get taken serious/not written off as attention-seeking that's not to be taken seriously and not worth treating.)

And, I suspect that while she might feel entitled to her opinion which is why she (rudely/unthinkingly) raised the issue of her personal disbelief into the rise of autism diagnoses during the past 10 years or so during your conversation with her, she knows or thinks that she's totally not qualified to independently confirm your diagnosis of autism or to try to un-diagnose you.

Hi Sora,

In my opinion the autism diagnosis in my case is absolutly correct, because as a child I was too typical.
I startet talking with 3 1/2, my 2nd sentence came with 4 years, in between nothing, I had routines, screamed when someone wanted to change them and was diagnosed with 9 years with auditive sensory processing disorder, language impaiment and dyslexia.
I was diagnosed in the past by several professionals with an ASD diagnosis and other psychiatrists toled me, that it fits.
It's just the second time it got a bit problematic (the first time they thought I could have possible schizophrenia, because of my overload) with the diagnosis, all the other times the psychiatrists agreed with it.
And I can't explain my early childhood with BPD, that's just not possible.

I also have a expert opinion (Gutachten) to my gender dysphoria and I'm waiting for the second one (I was allready there) and afterwards I get legaly my name changed.

I even would be silly to doubt all that.

My old psychiatrist toled me, that she doesn't care if even everyone else says something else about my case, she has here opinion and for her ASD is nothing more as a tempory fashion. She even seemed to take this personally.
I really don't know why.
But I'll don't go there anymore.

I have for tuesday an appointment by the psychiatrist in the psychiatry in my area to talk with her about that and stuff.
I was also once there and she agreed that I propably have HFA. (I'm not sure what she wrote exactly, I have to ask her, I've never seen it).

Okay, now I went to the autism specialist in that hospital where my old psychiatrist works who thinks that autism is just a temporary fashion.

The autism specialist in that hospital toled me that they think a high number of autistic people have borderline and they diagnose it very often in autistic people.

The reason why they thought I could have some tendencies was, because I was very frightend and suspicious in the beginning I seemed to be very irritated when asked if I would have self-injuring behavour (I answered with "no") and because there were many missunderstandings, more than in other autistic people and because I'm diagnosed with gender dysphoria and in my case that's propably just borderline.
(I'm legally getting my name changed soon and I take hormones because of that since more than a year now. And I even got the agreement from another psychiatrist in that hospital that I can start with hormone therapy because of my gender dysphoria))

I think that's very strange to me, that the hospital is thinking that a high number of autistic people is supposed to be borderline and the other psychiatrist don't even really believe in autism.
I was seen in the past by several different psychiatrists over the years and NO ONE ever believed that, just in that hospital...!
I also know why this is the case. Because I had a trauma, now I nearly don't have it anymore, since nearly two years. Because I was locked away for two weeks against my will in that hospital...!

In another section in the very same hospital they believed that I could be psychotic. So pritty much everyone in this hospital actually thinks I have something else.

But I don't go there anymore.

Well, now I have a new appointment by another psychiatrist on September 19., because my psychiatrist toled me I should leave if I don't agree with her.