Is AS worse than cancer?
You acknowledge these awful symptoms of cancer, yet you claim that AS is anywhere near as bad as cancer?! Your statement is incredibly offensive, both to those on the spectrum and those who live with cancer.
Do you realise how pathetic this makes you sound? I can't socialise well either. I have friends from my ASD social club and a few friendly acquaintances at school but when I am not around them, I'm almost completely silent because too much communication can make me feel anxious. However, I don't brood about it, nor do I post things like "I hate this f****ing disease" on Wrong Planet.
I'm sorry if this all seems insensitive, but I'm beginning to tire of reading this near incessant self pity. As you have previously admitted on this site, your AS is very mild and you do have a few friends. Some Aspies have many more difficulties than you, and many have no friends at all but they do not dare to compare AS to cancer - a life-threatening and/or life-destroying illness, nor do they want to be "cured".
Seriously ... deal with it. If a 14 year old can handle it, surely, so can a 22 year old?
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Just because the cancer is removed doesn't mean it won't come back.
Cancer is completely different to a neurological disorder. Autism can't kill you. Cancer may kill you.
Exactly. Some people with cancer are left with permanent side effects.
You can't compare two completely disabilities. Cancer is also a general term.
Please note that I chose my words very carefully. Cancer runs in my family and I have lost several people dear to me because of it. Remission is not a final cure. It means that it is not a problem for a time and that the tumor marker tests that you have to take ever 6 months or so come back negative. This can go on for many years and in some cases for the rest of the person's natural life. My point is that most people would chose this fate over low functioning autism. However, it is still a silly analogy since neither is a choice anyone can make. I was merely trying to give an analogy of just how absurd the original question was because of the nature of both problems and the variation in severity they can represent.
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The person who said it
I believe it was David Bardy from ASC and these are his exact words : "Autism is worse than cancer in many ways, because the person with autism has a normal lifespan."
Cancer temporary? not if it kills you, THEN it's a lifetime, and even if it doesn't you have to think of the after effects of surviving it. So no I don't think it's worse than cancer at all and I think it's pretty silly for anyone to think such a thing.
OK I will begin to love my curse from now on here I go yeaaaaahhhhh I love having it horray I'm abnormal and yes I might aswell say I deserve cancer I will try to get it at some point in my life so you can be happy OK I will shut the f**k up now because I'm a f****d up ret*d.
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You are not a "f***ed up ret*d" and you certainly don't deserve any form of cancer. I didn't say or imply either of these things. No one here would be happy if you contracted cancer, in fact, I'd feel sad if you did.
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Don't be so hard on yourself here, it's not your fault some people don't understand.
Curiotical - just because you can deal with your problems doesnt mean everyone else can because everyones got different life circumstances. Joe 90 is going through a tough time atm please dont be too harsh Im sure she doesnt mean it in a way to offend everyone, she knows the awfulness of cancer but is just comparing her condition to it on a different scale. She just happens to be someone who hates being different so much that she s finding anything she can to antagonise it, she does not mean no harm
I'll sure be unhappy too if I was born with something that holds me back from doing what I *should* be doing, whilst everyone else around me can do the things they do..
I'm sorry, it's just that sometimes I get so upset about being this way that it eats away at me a lot and makes me feel bitter towards those who don't have to suffer with it. But I would never wish cancer upon anybody, even myself. I think it's a terrible thing and I far rather they find a cure for cancer first rather than Autism. I even cried my eyes out when I heard an elderly relative of mine being diagnosed with breast cancer. Good news, she is better now.
But I also hear of people crying their eyes out when finding out their child is Autistic, like they would if they found out their child has cancer. Heck, I think my mum cried her eyes out when they first diagnosed me with AS. I know AS won't affect my lifespan, so I don't know why she cried her eyes out.
But like monstermunch said, I compared it on a different scale. I would rather I had neither, and I wish cancer and AS didn't exist. I didn't say AS is worse than cancer, I just implied that I'd rather have neither. They both are obviously completely different in every way, but AS has it's bad sides that want to make me cry and scream and pine for a cure, just like I would with cancer.
This low self-esteem what I have got, admittedly, does give me the ''the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence'' attitude, irrationally thinking that everybody else has it better than me no matter what circumstances, but it is only irrational, and that deep down I definately know there are more devastating things out there than AS. Is that a bit clearer?
ps - yes, I am a type of Aspie who bases everything on emotion, not facts.
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All I do is post on WP and listen to The Kinks all day and I'm still not bothered by my autism. In fact, I celebrate it. I'm not implying that people celebrate to the extent that I do, but I feel that everybody on the spectrum should at least make peace with their autism.
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I don't have a firm diagnosis (yet, have to wait till next week) and although i'm a chain smoker, I haven't got cancer (yet, or I'm not yet aware of having it)
I'll wait till I have them both, verify the issue and let you know.
ok seriously (the last part wasn't meant 100% seriously). this thread is rather attention-hoo-ish.
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Joe90, I'm sorry. I was unacceptably harsh on you. I should have tried to show more empathy.
Interesting. It seems that you are somewhat over-emotional whilst I am under-emotional. I often base everything on fact without considering the emotions of others. Because of this - and some differences in opinion - it is probably natural that we clash. However, you are a smart, interesting person and I apologise for upsetting you.
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Interesting. It seems that you are somewhat over-emotional whilst I am under-emotional. I often base everything on fact without considering the emotions of others. Because of this - and some differences in opinion - it is probably natural that we clash. However, you are a smart, interesting person and I apologise for upsetting you.
That's OK, I'm sorry I overreacted. I'm quite strange for an Aspie because I am full of emotion, in fact I have invented a disorder called ''hyperactive emotions disorder (HED)'' where I kind of get too lost in my emotions, and I kind of forget about the facts.
And don't apologise. I should explain things a bit clearer. It's just that I find anything I can to abuse AS because I do resent having it, and like I said, I can become quite bitter, not with other people, but just with the way I am.
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i'm with you on this one. i dont suffer from asperger syndrome - i have asperger syndrome. never mind i was to afraid to go to mcdonald and order food when i was in my early twenties. never mind i was selectively mute as a child and never had a single friend or a relationship. never mind that nts treat me like a fly on the wall and i'm surprised they havent started swatting me yet.
socializing is way over rated. who needs it? i love nature and animals and used to love to practice self defense and walk for miles in my youth. i liked my hyperactivity and now i miss it. there are very good things about having asperger. there are also bad things, of course.
but, overall, it's rather mild. i read sometimes in a forum for bi polar people and it's so sad. i'm not manic depressive, thank god. what i have seems so very mild in comparison. and it's so much better than schizophrenia, or low functioning, non verbal autism, or down syndrome with a heart defect that die before their time. a heart defect sounds very scary to me.
At that stage you are at the mercy of its doubling rate; its particular resistance to the aforementioned treatments; where it's at in location.
Usually in the final stages you succumb by a wasting away. Your chemistry ( hormones) are significantly thrown off by this invasion. This is similar to the late stage you see in Aids patients. You don't eat and are completely bed ridden and on pain medication.
*Early prevention by screening.*
Stay on it!
Bad analogy btw. In fact it's insulting.
You are right. I guess it was a bad choice of words to use the word "cure". I probably should have used the word "remission" instead.
You're fine.
I was just on my tangent/ crusade about this killer -- to preach awareness.
Just to clarify (as I'm not sure how everything was taken): I meant "bad analogy" as was posted in the qoute.
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