Are all AS people slobs?

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Huh? I said nothing about carpets whatsoever. Where did that come from?

I totally agree that carpets are a stupid, unhygenic idea. The only way they make logical sense is if everybody takes off their shoes at the front door. In the West, most people do not do that. One notable exception is Sweden. Everybody takes off their shoes at the front door of a guest's house in Sweden and the guest has lots of slippers lined up for guests to choose from.

If I could oblige people to take off their dirty outdoor shoes when coming into my house, I would, but people are not culturally accustomed to doing so. So they continue to trample their dirt all over the carpets. If I could choose and purchase my own house, the floors would be wood, lino, or slate or stone. There would NOT be any unhygeinic carpets! But at the moment I'm living in rented accomodation, and have no say in what's on the floor.

I am a male suspected to have AS.

I could be at both extremes. I am extremely clean sometimes to the point of other people feeling a bit stressed. At home I try to keep clean if I can keep everything perfect. However, if I'm very stressed or cannot make everything perfect, then I don't see any point in trying and my home becomes an unbelievable mess to the point of other people suspecting my mental state. My home is in the latter state at the moment and I haven't been able to invite anyone for a few years.

So, as with anything else, it depends on individuals in my opinion. You just need to get your partner motivated, I guess. But you shouldn't have to do all the cleaning for your partner unless your partner does other things for you.

The thing is, you can't generalize aspies with any of these things. It's not like going down to the store and buying a product off the shelf. Just like so-called normal people there is a lot of variety within the aspie community. However, we do tend to be a study in extremes. You have some of us who are so neat and perfectionistically clean that not so much as a sock is ever out of place. Then there are those who don't clean much or at all. Some of us do have hoarding tendencies that stem from either OCD or a hatred of change. As far as parenting goes, that again is down to the individual. Some will be great, some terrible and most somewhere in the middle (just like any other group of people).

Now with me personally, my house goes from overly neat to messy, and I do have mild hoarding tendencies that I can keep in check ( I hate throwing away potentially useful things since I am poor and money to buy stuff is hard to come by). I have some executive functioning issues, but can easily rise above them and do what I have to do when someone else is depending on me. For example, I may not wash the dishes for a week or two, but I pre-wash them so well before putting them in the sink that they look clean while waiting to be washed. I don't want insect or vermin issues so I do not leave any food lying about. However, I may not mow the lawn for a few weeks some times. I do have too many cars and spare parts for them, but the garbage is taken out regularly and my house is never allowed to smell badly. I have a sensitive sniffer and so I strive to stave off stinky scents. If I had to, I could make my house perfectly clean and organized in about 4 hours, so it's not like something off of an episode of Hoarders. I live alone though and rarely ever have anyone visit, so I see no reason to constantly strive for perfection. It's more of a tolerable equilibrium point.

I think ''all'' is a strong with.

Some threads say Aspies are too clean. Why can't people just learn that cleanliness and untidiness is just a personality trait?

Some neurotypicals have to generalize\stereotypes us in order to explain what AS to other NTs, to even understand who we are. Why use a dangerous trend like that.

I for an example must live in a neat and clean place. Primarily because I have asthma and have an irrational fear of messy place, possibly inherited it from my mother.

Every thing must be in order in my own terms. I think the cleanliness and messiness of a person is just his/her personality.

I apologize if I offended anyone. I believe it is a matter of upbringing and choice to keep your room/home tidy.

They must be pretty poorly behaved then! I was taught to leave the shoes in the hallway. I have never trampled on anyone's carpet with shoes. And I would expect adults to take their shoes off before going into the next rooms.

I was on truuconfessions website and I saw a debate on there about taking your shoes off in peoples homes and leaving them on. I had no idea it was rude to ask people to take them off and others say it's not rude. I think it's rude to not take them off if it's wet outside and you go in someone's house and don't take them off. If you need to wear shoes due to a problem you have, have indoor shoes and always bring them with you and change into those every time. But some don't think so and I think it's a cultural thing. In some places it's rude to not take them off and in other places it's rude to take them off. It's rude to ask people to take them off and it's not rude to ask people to take them off. Confusing isn't it?

Yes and no. Upbringing may make most people behave a certain way, but not everyone will do so. As far as choice goes, if you are a low energy person then it is difficult to keep up with things at times.

One good example of that is making the bed. I don't understand the point of that and don't ever do it. No one sees it but me. Why make it when it's only going to be messed up again? It seems like a waste of energy for something pointless.

I'm not much of a cleaner and wouldn't want to live with anyone that tried to pressure me to clean. If they want it cleaned they can clean it themself. I live with my mother and she isn't much of a cleaner either. The only things she does regularly is wash dishes, bring out the garbage, her laundry, and clean the litterboxes.

Cleaning is hard work and it generally takes me a long time to get any cleaning done if I do it at all.

Sometimes I agree with that, and sometimes I feel that it makes me feel better to see it looking all neat and tidy. Generally speaking I agree. Assuming no one else sees your bed, there's no real point to making it (at least, none that I can think of) unless doing so makes you feel emotionally better.

Airing it and changing the bedding regularly are different, though. Those are important. I don't really bother with airing mine. Apparently you're supposed to, say, hang your sheets out the window, or give things a good shake or a vacuum, or soemthing. I think I would only bother doing that if I had a huge allergy to dust mites or something - which I don't.

I don't bother doing the airing, but I do change the bedding regularly. I have to. My dog sleeps in my bed, too, and things get pretty yucky and stinky sooner than they would if it was only a human sleeping in there!

Some people hardly seem to change their bedding at all. Others change it far too often, in my opinion.

Does any human being NOT 'hate cleaning'?

But that is funny- how some of us are slobs and other others obsessively organize things by color or name.

I don't hate cleaning.

I rarely change my sheets. I never feel like doing it.

I'm the OCD type, have been since I was a child. I have to have order before I can enjoy any of my interests or I
will feel extremely overwhelmed and not sure where to begin. Family and coworkers find that making my area a mess
to watch me clean and straighten humorous. Books by height, movies are done alphabetical order, clothes by type
and the by certain color hangers. This frustrates my wife, who doesn't like the cleaning aspect, but it bugs her that I
prefer to clean and organize this way.

Certainly. Many people enjoy it, myself included. Cleaning can be satisfying and energising. The way I feel about it varies depending on my mood and how much time I have available.

Sometimes it's just an irritating chore than you have to drag yourself into doing when you can't really be bothered and would rather be doing something else, but sometimes it can really be fun.