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08 Nov 2012, 5:57 pm

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Thank you very much. : ) The purpose of this blog is education - if I'm successful enough, maybe I can help to prevent some of the thinking that causes the problems this article discusses. That's my goal, anyway.


I agree.

It was a lovely blog post and very ADD-friendly. :D

I agree with the gist of the original article. I'm against the, "It's just a personality-type" mentality, or that "everybody" is on the Autism spectrum. :roll:


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08 Nov 2012, 6:10 pm

To be honest I didn't find the article too bad. Aspergers to me is simply a label and I dont want to use it as an excuse, unless the affects of Aspergers are causing very serious social ramifications. Instead, for any problems I have had to date I have just stated the specific reason why it is a weakness/problem for me. And then I look to improve on it.

I've seen people saying they have Aspergers as an excuse when I've seen them being rude and inpolite. When I've asked if they are looking to improve themselves they seem disinterested or don't believe they can. There should be more to help individuals with their own individual problems. Having a broad label to group a lot of people with different issues under the same name is counter-productive imo.

However, I do have an issue with the author bringing up the Gary McKinnon case. A few weeks before that decision another case involving an individual suspected of computer related terrorist activities, and whom was also recently diagnosed with AS, was extradited to the States. The main difference between the two cases wasn't the aspergers, but McKinnon was suffering from serious clinical depression, NOT THE ASPERGERS, as the article is gearing towards.

edited as a bit of my post made absolutely no sense



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10 Nov 2012, 5:06 am

gassy wrote:
To be honest I didn't find the article too bad. Aspergers to me is simply a label and I dont want to use it as an excuse, unless the affects of Aspergers are causing very serious social ramifications. Instead, for any problems I have had to date I have just stated the specific reason why it is a weakness/problem for me. And then I look to improve on it.

I've seen people saying they have Aspergers as an excuse when I've seen them being rude and inpolite. When I've asked if they are looking to improve themselves they seem disinterested or don't believe they can. There should be more to help individuals with their own individual problems. Having a broad label to group a lot of people with different issues under the same name is counter-productive imo.

However, I do have an issue with the author bringing up the Gary McKinnon case. A few weeks before that decision another case involving an individual suspected of computer related terrorist activities, and whom was also recently diagnosed with AS, was extradited to the States. The main difference between the two cases wasn't the aspergers, but McKinnon was suffering from serious clinical depression, NOT THE ASPERGERS, as the article is gearing towards.

edited as a bit of my post made absolutely no sense


I thought the issue was that the other guy with AS was non-white.



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10 Nov 2012, 5:52 am

I think there is a lot of trouth in this article

Psychiatric disorders are dx way too fast anyway.
The new shrink I am at the moment, he has at least 5 diagnostic suspicions or even more about me, I even didn't ask, I've just seen some ICD-10 numbers on his computer screen...!

It is possible to interprete nearly every disorder into everyone and many aren't just clear cut cases.
I don't believe I have all those disorders, just because some shrinks have a whole bunch of suspicions, I'm just different that's all and you don't need 10 different lables or something to explain that. I also don't think that so many ppl have a form of ASD.
Many disorders are just overdx nowadays.


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11 Nov 2012, 6:43 pm

I stopped reading after 'prick' and 'narcissist'. Is the gist that everyone's on the spectrum somewhere? I thought that was a given seeing as how very few people would take an AQ test & score zero. Anything that could remotely be considered an 'autistic trait' should be seen all over the general population.



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12 Nov 2012, 12:15 am

Here, Dan: http://crowdedhead.blog.com/2012/11/08/ ... -spectrum/

I wrote a short summary of each page so you can skip reading the ridiculous 7-page thing. The gist is basically that people are using "asperger" to describe absolutely anyone who does anything uncomfortable or inappropriate, which is incorrect because there is so much more to autism than just some bit of social awkwardness, and because it's wrong to equate asperger syndrome to being a jerk.