Cannabis - General Ignorance.

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In some states it is...you could potentially move to one, though if you mean federally you may be out of luck.

I was quite mentally ill before I ever even knew what cannabis even was, what it does to me is mellows me out...and smoking it is not the most healthy way to ingest it but I am aware of the risks that brings besides there is a study that shows people who smoke cannabis and cigarettes are less likely to get cancer than someone who just smokes cigarettes. As for the LSD flashbacks I think it depends on if its a flashback to a good trip or a bad trip.....As for PTSD its a physical and mental thing, as it is physiological. And its not exactly 'harmless' and not everyone reacts well to it not everyone who smokes thinks its entirely harmless.

What is it with people here and making assumptions about me? Honestly I'll go off on the next person that does that.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/d ... /marijuana

Especially read under "What Other Adverse Effect Does Marijuana Have on Health?". So, are you going to read it? If not then don't waste my time further.

I wont make any assumptions and read it up to 'marijuana contains carcinogens and therefore increases cancer risk' there is a more recent study that more implies cannabis decreases the risk of cancer for cigarette smokers and does not create a risk of cancer. Otherwise find some studies on people who have gotten lung cancer from cannabis alone.....Also while maybe cannabis can make some issues worse for some people does not mean it will cause those issues for everyone. When I was in psychology class apparently most studies that try to claim cannabis as a cause.....don't quite go into whether the individual already had issues and smokes to alleviate them or self medicate, or whether the smoking came first.

I mean prozac helps some people with depression, but it made me practically psychotic temporarily, but I am not going to say no one should use that drug if it helps them. But even the side effects listed there aren't nearly as bad as some of the side effects of many pharmacuticals prescription or even over the counter......like tylenol(acetaminophen) can cause liver damage and well opiates are not exactly 'safe' in any way though they certainly relieve pain but thing is when you look at a lot of legal/prescription/over the counter drugs compared to cannabis many of them can do a lot more harm. Smoking cannabis can contribute to some respiratory issues but one does not have to smoke it there are other ways. And do the writers of that article realize cannabis use does not=abuse, of course abusing ANY substance is not a good idea. But either way it looks like a federal government influenced organization which means bias against marijuana which of course interferes with the accuracy.

Just my opinion though.

I used to be a very heavy user of cannabis, at least £10 a day for a few years, and I used to love it. At the time, it was a blessing in disguise; it gave me something social to do with people my age group (around 18/19) that didn't involve going to packed clubs and bars and dancing with a bunch of strangers. Instead, I could just pick up a friend or 2 and go driving to different parks / fields / cliffs and light up a spliff or 2 at each place. Beautiful. Quiet. I have always been the quiet one, and when in a stoned group it just makes me seem normal, because everyone is quieter and monged out. I honestly don't know what I'd be doing in life if I don't have any stoner friends. I definitely wouldn't have any real friends today, and for that reason, I owe my social life to marijuana. I never thought I would have anything bad to say about weed.....

However, that was back when I was out of college and doing full time work at a supermarket. I would finish at 7.30, go home, eat, go out, smoke a load of doobs, go home, sleep, repeat. As someone on here mentioned previously, weed DOES inhibit the body's ability to achieve REM sleep, so if you smoke weed before you go to sleep you will not be feeling refreshed in the morning at all. Doing this every day for over 3 years turned me to a zombie. I never noticed it at the time, but I was just in a constant haze. I convinced myself that I wasn't addicted to smoking, but had to reassess that viewpoint when I went back to college and tried to quit for exam period, only to be greeted with severe trouble sleeping and frustration. After about 2 weeks I was fine, and OMFG THE SLEEP...... I genuinely had forgotten what a real dream was like. SO vivid, SO real. Seriously, if you smoke a lot of weed, stop smoking for a few days and witness what can only be described as the true reality come to life in your unconscious state. The fact that I had been living in such a stoned haze made the clarity of dreams so much more intense, and I genuinely preferred sleeping to reality. But I digress,,,,,

I now try to keep my smoking to Friday evening, Saturday evening and Sunday evening. I can NOT function at college if I've been blazing the night before. And by the way, cutting down on my weed intake has made me into a much happier aspie, and a much more functioning one.

TL;DR VERSION
I used to love weed, smoked it in large amounts every day of the week for years - never thought I'd have a bad word to say about it. Now I have grown up a little more though and realise that it does dull your senses and should only be used in responsible settings and at responsibly allocated periods of the day. I only smoke a couple of days of the week now and feel LOADS better for it; and so does my bank account! You try spending a minimum of £300 a month on grade when you only earn £300 from a part time job!

I don't think cannabis in and of itself is a bad thing, but like all things excessive use of it is harmful (even if it's only socially harmful, that's still harm).

My personal experience of drug use and users has biased me against all kinds of drugs. My family seem predisposed to addiction, my mother was a heroin addict and all around drug abuser for about 16 years (currently recovering with a history of relapse), my brother abused drugs for a lot of his adolescence, my aunt is an alcoholic and last time I saw my father he was very alcohol dependent.

So, I don't use drugs. I don't like to be around people who use drugs because now I'm an adult I want to have as much control as possible regarding who I associate with. For instance I had a small party, some of my friends did MDMA in my kitchen and I told them they had to leave (it was 4:30 am at that point) because I didn't want to be around that kind of thing.

I know my position on drugs is uncompromising, unfair to the wider picture and perhaps socially harmful, but I cannot stand being around drugs. *Shrugs* So, even if it's legalised I still wouldn't try it. Fair enough if you want to, but I don't want to be around people while they do it, and I find it very hard not to be a judgemental ass about it (although I do realise that its' unfair for me to do so).

Here is what you said in your original post that I replied to.



Here is what YOUR link (http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/d ... /marijuana} says.



If you're going to link 'scientific' proof make sure that it doesn't contradict your claims. I read your 'proof', I'm assuming you didn't. Now feel free to go off, I could use a good laugh. In fact, if you could post your tantrum on youtube and PM me the link I'd appreciate it.

^ And that is from the government. If the GOVERNMENT is saying that RESULTS ARE INCONSISTENT, then I'd say we've got nothing to worry about! Government's the one trying to keep marijuana illegal for the benefit of Big Alcohol, Big Tobacco, Big Pharma and Big Prison after all...

...not to mention that I doubt marijuana's legalization will even hurt alcohol sales! Those two drugs go very well together.

Uh NO. Do NOT feel free to "go off." That would not be recommended. If people are having trouble with each other in this thread, feel free to take a long time out and CHILL. This is a hot button topic. Always has been. Chill out and calm down before you post, otherwise I'll just lock the thread if it deteriorates much further. And that of course, would not be fair to those who are keeping their cool.

'Nuff said I hope.

Thank for shopping Wrong Planet. Have a nice day.

Have you ever read up on 'The simulation theory'? Please re-read what I said... I stated "all it does is give you the illusion its helping but it isn't" Meaning its not helping ones Autism symptoms. Its all psychological because if you believe in something enough it'll work. Watch Derren Brown and his "magic", he's a master at Psychological manipulation. The human mind is a very simple thing to manipulate, and trick.

Then again most of these things work only on the less intelligent that believe to death its real, not everyone can be Hypnotised to bark like a dog, so on so forth. Thank you for you're reply!

I thought by "help" you meant "help you to be happy".
But even then do you think marijuana's reputed mellowing out effects aren't real? And I know at least for me anxiety tends to go hand in hand with autism.
I'd say in some other ways it helps and in some other ways it hurts(but not seriously). It's easier to socialize with someone else who is stoned when you are high and not so easy to socialize otherwise. But I become calmer, less anxious, and less OCD and even if I'm awkward around the non-stoned at least it's not a terrible awkwardness and I'm not getting anxious or nerved up about it(which would likely just lead me to overthink things and make things worse).
If anything it makes it easier to socialize doing the sorts of things we on the spectrum would do socializing such as talking about obscure subjects. That's one benefit if I'm smoking it with others they will be more open to talking about deeper subjects.