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17 Jan 2013, 4:14 pm

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I wouldn't describe the behaviour we are discussing as psychopathic though

I'd term it 'standard male behaviour'

Obviously not ALL males but a fair proportion


"Standard male behavior" is being forward enough to go out and make out with women you barely know? Having multiple concurrent sex partners with zero emotional attachments or desires for one? Having friends who only share your predatory desires?

I admit that I may be out of the loop but I don't think I'm that out of the loop... could just be my aspie naivete, but that seems a bit extreme.


What do a lot (don't know what percentage but I'd always assumed the majority) of mainly younger men and women
do on a Friday night and at weekends?

They go out drinking, dancing and looking to score

It's called the mating game


But to the extent of the OP? I just think that's doubtful. I don't interact with my peers very much, but what conversations I do overhear around campus and throughout the city and such tends to revolve around personal activities with close friends or other silly shenanigans. And I gather that most NTs seek out steady relationships rather than one night stands or getting blackout drunk. That stuff tends to get looked down upon, I think.

None of this is to suggest that I don't also see loud, drunk and promiscuous people spilling out of night clubs, too, because I do. I just think that you're drastically over-simplifying what people do on weekends. Maybe it's just a generational thing. Conversely, I suppose I may be giving them too much credit.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though since you're probably been more clubs and bars than I have (I've been to zero, due to my age and general disinterest), so you probably have more hands on experience.



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17 Jan 2013, 4:26 pm

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I wouldn't describe the behaviour we are discussing as psychopathic though

I'd term it 'standard male behaviour'

Obviously not ALL males but a fair proportion


"Standard male behavior" is being forward enough to go out and make out with women you barely know? Having multiple concurrent sex partners with zero emotional attachments or desires for one? Having friends who only share your predatory desires?

I admit that I may be out of the loop but I don't think I'm that out of the loop... could just be my aspie naivete, but that seems a bit extreme.


What do a lot (don't know what percentage but I'd always assumed the majority) of mainly younger men and women
do on a Friday night and at weekends?

They go out drinking, dancing and looking to score

It's called the mating game


But to the extent of the OP? I just think that's doubtful. I don't interact with my peers very much, but what conversations I do overhear around campus and throughout the city and such tends to revolve around personal activities with close friends or other silly shenanigans. And I gather that most NTs seek out steady relationships rather than one night stands or getting blackout drunk. That stuff tends to get looked down upon, I think.

None of this is to suggest that I don't also see loud, drunk and promiscuous people spilling out of night clubs, too, because I do. I just think that you're drastically over-simplifying what people do on weekends. Maybe it's just a generational thing. Conversely, I suppose I may be giving them too much credit.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though since you're probably been more clubs and bars than I have (I've been to zero, due to my age and general disinterest), so you probably have more hands on experience.


Well you're in America so I can't speak for where you are but where I'm from in the UK, getting blind drunk and having one night stands is pretty much the norm for many younger and older people

I don't know the exact statistics though

"And I gather that most NTs seek out steady relationships rather than one night stands or getting blackout drunk."

Do they? I thought the opposite actually

They even have flings on their wedding days!



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17 Jan 2013, 4:33 pm

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Well you're in America so I can't speak for where you are but where I'm from in the UK, getting blind drunk and having one night stands is pretty much the norm for many younger and older people

I don't know the exact statistics though

"And I gather that most NTs seek out steady relationships rather than one night stands or getting blackout drunk."

Do they? I thought the opposite actually

They even have flings on their wedding days!


I guess this is another one of those moments in my life where I once again throw my hands in the air out of frustration and yell, "I just don't get people!"

I'm still skeptical, but this discussion has become so protracted and convoluted that I should probably just quit before I embarrass myself further. :)



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17 Jan 2013, 4:38 pm

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Well you're in America so I can't speak for where you are but where I'm from in the UK, getting blind drunk and having one night stands is pretty much the norm for many younger and older people

I don't know the exact statistics though

"And I gather that most NTs seek out steady relationships rather than one night stands or getting blackout drunk."

Do they? I thought the opposite actually

They even have flings on their wedding days!


I guess this is another one of those moments in my life where I once again throw my hands in the air out of frustration and yell, "I just don't get people!"

I'm still sceptical, but this discussion has become so protracted and convoluted that I should probably just quit before I embarrass myself further. :)


Well my knowledge of what goes on on nights out comes mainly from reading the newspapers and off TV these days but I used to go out to pubs and clubs when younger.

It has got a lot worse since I was younger in terms of people getting more drunk and violent and I assume drunk people are more likely to be promiscuous due to having less self-control

A lot of the women on nights out dress like tarts too so that's a feature that indicates to me they are 'on the pull'

and high abortion levels and a lot of single mothers also points to many people not exactly being in stable long term relationships



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17 Jan 2013, 4:45 pm

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and high abortion levels and a lot of single mothers also points to many people not exactly being in stable long term relationships


Oh no, I'm not suggesting that people are seeing higher rates of success in stable, long term relationships -- merely that the desire is there for one to happen, and that it is preferable to being physically and emotionally alone for most people. Pop culture has definitely highlighted and idolized such reckless behavior, but I don't think it's what people really aspire to; it's just what they settle for. That was the point I was trying to make.



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17 Jan 2013, 4:46 pm

New member throws up a "red pill" comment, and we have 48 posts, more than half of which are angry at the OP, to the extent of DXing him with mental illness.

I post a question about if people know the local legislators, and get (as of my last check), no responses.


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17 Jan 2013, 4:47 pm

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and high abortion levels and a lot of single mothers also points to many people not exactly being in stable long term relationships


Oh no, I'm not suggesting that people are seeing higher rates of success in stable, long term relationships -- merely that the desire is there for one to happen, and that it is preferable to being physically and emotionally alone for most people. Pop culture has definitely highlighted and idolized such reckless behavior, but I don't think it's what people really aspire to; it's just what they settle for. That was the point I was trying to make.


I agree then - most people do ultimately want a stable, long term relationship.



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17 Jan 2013, 4:47 pm

I have made great strides as well.

I do agree we can be more charming to women than most neurotypical men.

We are kind of hybrids taking the best of both mind types.



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17 Jan 2013, 4:50 pm

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New member throws up a "red pill" comment, and we have 48 posts, more than half of which are angry at the OP, to the extent of DXing him with mental illness.

I post a question about if people know the local legislators, and get (as of my last check), no responses.


Sorry I'm not with you

I asked what you meant by 'red piller' a while back and received no reply

I asked if the OP had created other threads as I thought this was what you were referring to when you said
his '7 other posts'

I haven't seen you post anything about 'the local legislators' and don't understand what you mean by this term



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17 Jan 2013, 5:01 pm

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Sorry I'm not with you

I asked what you meant by 'red piller' a while back and received no reply

I asked if the OP had created other threads as I thought this was what you were referring to when you said
his '7 other posts'

I haven't seen you post anything about 'the local legislators' and don't understand what you mean by this term


To the first question and second question, I'm sending you a PM.

I posted a thread, admittedly directed to our US posters, asking how many people knew who the local legislators' were and how to contact them. I was'nt expecting complete lack of responses, but it really does'nt surprise me.

I compared that response to this thread, where people are generally against the OP, to a thread where one would think that people would support, since it involves reaching out to the community and contacting decision makers. People want to argue over this topic, which sends the posts up to what is now 50(?) posts since this morning, which suggests that this topic, which seems to recieve negative feedback, is more important to WP posters.


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17 Jan 2013, 5:05 pm

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Sorry I'm not with you

I asked what you meant by 'red piller' a while back and received no reply

I asked if the OP had created other threads as I thought this was what you were referring to when you said
his '7 other posts'

I haven't seen you post anything about 'the local legislators' and don't understand what you mean by this term


To the first question and second question, I'm sending you a PM.

I posted a thread, admittedly directed to our US posters, asking how many people knew who the local legislators' were and how to contact them. I was'nt expecting complete lack of responses, but it really does'nt surprise me.

I compared that response to this thread, where people are generally against the OP, to a thread where one would think that people would support, since it involves reaching out to the community and contacting decision makers. People want to argue over this topic, which sends the posts up to what is now 50(?) posts since this morning, which suggests that this topic, which seems to recieve negative feedback, is more important to WP posters.


So you are effectively telling people off for choosing which threads they want to post on?



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17 Jan 2013, 5:09 pm

It might represent my views more closely if I pointed out that I used an example, two threads around the same time. In retrospect, perhaps I should'nt have used my own thread as an example.

People are free to post on whatever thread they want, of course. However, when someone logs into WP and sees 58(?) posts in a day, one is going to get a different impression of people's priorities.

I'll post any future posts of this nature in a seperate thread.


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17 Jan 2013, 5:11 pm

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To the first question and second question, I'm sending you a PM.

I posted a thread, admittedly directed to our US posters, asking how many people knew who the local legislators' were and how to contact them. I was'nt expecting complete lack of responses, but it really does'nt surprise me.

I compared that response to this thread, where people are generally against the OP, to a thread where one would think that people would support, since it involves reaching out to the community and contacting decision makers. People want to argue over this topic, which sends the posts up to what is now 50(?) posts since this morning, which suggests that this topic, which seems to receive negative feedback, is more important to WP posters.


I'll admit that I'm drawn to interesting controversies, and that I feel embarrassed and disappointed in myself for investing so heavily in a topic that ultimately does not matter. :oops:

My theory is that "people" (and I hate to generalize, but here I feel it is appropriate) are drawn more to topics that are "easy" to talk about -- things that make them angry, upset, irritated or just rubs them the wrong way -- than they are to topics that require more input and specific knowledge. Honestly, this thread should probably be deleted or at least moved. It's a waste of space and doesn't improve anyone's understanding of autism or aspergers, especially since the OP has stopped replying and the rest of us are just squabbling over what he said and being armchair psychologists.

I'm sorry that your question got ignored. :(



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17 Jan 2013, 5:12 pm

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These girls you are sleeping with clearly don't have high opinions of themselves if they can sleep around so easily and also whilst knowing you are sharing yourself out between them and others.


Balderdash. Would you say the same thing about a young man having casual sex? I do agree with you about the OP showing signs of sociopathy, though. It was my first thought, reading his post.


Yes I would and I do. I do not differentiate between men or women who sleep around, I disapprove either way. Do you think women who give it away to all and sundry, probably often without protection hold themselves in high esteem then?


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17 Jan 2013, 5:13 pm

I made a similar transformation when I was in my late 20's. I had over a dozen sex partners in a year, and yes, I was going for quantity, not quality. I also learned to guide conversations, not to learn say weird stuff, and in general become quite social. Today I'm in my late 30's with a wife, two kids, house, high paying job, etc.

Concerning Tarzan's approach, it is much easier telling a girl that you're a former casanova than a 30 year old virgin. He's also quite young and has plenty of time to learn how to have a committed relationship. I only hope he outgrows this "phase" and does not get stuck in this mode for too long.



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17 Jan 2013, 10:30 pm

8O
Well you're someone I'll never be.