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29 Jan 2013, 6:23 pm

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Howards mom?! What about Lennards mom?!? She's worse than Sheldon :lol:


Oh yes, so true! :lol:

I believe that with Howards mom is just like a "joke" in the show.
So far I remember you NEVER see her and she ALWAYS screems. 8O


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29 Jan 2013, 7:15 pm

What surprises me is all four (Raj, Leonard, Sheldon, and Howard) are highly educated with all being doctors except Howard, yet they live in apartments and cohabitate. You'd think they'd be making enough money to live on their own. Do they not get paid that much even though they're doctors and one has a master's?



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30 Jan 2013, 4:51 am

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What surprises me is all four (Raj, Leonard, Sheldon, and Howard) are highly educated with all being doctors except Howard, yet they live in apartments and cohabitate. You'd think they'd be making enough money to live on their own. Do they not get paid that much even though they're doctors and one has a master's?


Yeah I know it does not make sense. If I remember correctly Sheldon says, in the episode in which he lends Penny money, that he only uses half his income each month and that he saves the rest (some in a bank-account some in a can guarded by snakes and some in the butt of a action figure). But still why would he do that? The character wants to be left alone most of the time. Guess it's another thing they just have to do to make it a great show.



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30 Jan 2013, 5:02 am

psychegots wrote:
redrobin62 wrote:
What surprises me is all four (Raj, Leonard, Sheldon, and Howard) are highly educated with all being doctors except Howard, yet they live in apartments and cohabitate. You'd think they'd be making enough money to live on their own. Do they not get paid that much even though they're doctors and one has a master's?


Yeah I know it does not make sense. If I remember correctly Sheldon says, in the episode in which he lends Penny money, that he only uses half his income each month and that he saves the rest (some in a bank-account some in a can guarded by snakes and some in the butt of a action figure). But still why would he do that? The character wants to be left alone most of the time. Guess it's another thing they just have to do to make it a great show.


Well, it reminds me on my brother. :lol:
He's not AS, but ADHD and is a photographer, could live in his own appartment, but lives in a room in a flat share. He even didn't wanted to move out when he found his girlfriend, so she moved also in the same appartment in the flat share, having two rooms next to each other.

Does this makes sence? :wink:

Some ppl are like this.
I'm also living in a flat share in a dormitory with a girl. Most of the time I'm in my room by myself and I could also move in a small flat in the dormitory all by myself, but I never did.


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30 Jan 2013, 8:18 am

Do I think Sheldon has AS and/or OCD? No.

Do I think he's an irritating stereotype? Yes. :roll:

And for a mini rant, I think it's absolutely idiotic that Howard (one of the few characters I enjoy) only has a master's. He went to MIT for ROCKET SCIENCE, for crying out loud! Bernadette has her Ph.D in microbiology, but Howard is "beneath" her academically?! Makes absolutely no sense to me, and it is one of the many flawed academic reasons why the show annoys me.


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30 Jan 2013, 8:20 am

Then dont watch it!

He explained that in one episode anyway - not that a sit-com needs be wholly accurate. When is the last time you saw a hot blonde with a short geek? Its just TV!



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30 Jan 2013, 8:25 am

Living by himself would mean he would have to take care of a lot of stuff that the show has established he can't by himself, like commuting or taking care of himself when he's sick, for example. Also, both Leonard and Sheldon need/want the company whether they admit it or not, both for practical reasons and to have a "family" of sorts. I'd say they're the same reasons here in Latin America a lot of single people live with their parents, siblings or friends even when they're financially successful.

Sheldon definitely has AS, but I'm growing disenchanted with the portrayal of his character. Jim Parsons does a great job, but the writing is a problem. I liked him better in season 1 and maybe season 2, afterwards he became a caricature of himself.



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30 Jan 2013, 8:35 am

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Then dont watch it!

I don't. My mother watches it. What I know about it comes from hearing it through the walls of my bedroom.

And I understand that it's just a sitcom, but I get very annoyed of "smart" characters on television shows. There are very few "smart" characters who are realistically intelligent, and I get sick and tired of seeing the same stereotypes over and over again. "Big Bang" has some very believable "smart" characters (e.g., Amy, portrayed by a real neuroscientist), but they are all overshadowed by Sheldon's over-the-top, stereotypical portrayal. It just irritates me that a vast majority of the "laughs" are supposed to come from Sheldon's AS/OCD stereotype behaviors, whereas other genuinely interesting facets of the show are largely left untouched.


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30 Jan 2013, 8:50 am

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Living by himself would mean he would have to take care of a lot of stuff that the show has established he can't by himself, like commuting or taking care of himself when he's sick, for example. Also, both Leonard and Sheldon need/want the company whether they admit it or not, both for practical reasons and to have a "family" of sorts.


I think the same and here in Europe it's also very common in a lot of countries and not only for students, also for old ppl and so on.


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30 Jan 2013, 9:01 am

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It won't happen - ever. Can you imagine the backlash? Laughing at someone who is 'quirky' is one thing, making fun of neurological disorders is something else entirely.

Very well said. This sums up what I was trying to say but didn't know how to word.

I personally feel that "quirky" characters who are clear stereotypes of a particular neuropsych disorder (such as Sheldon and that Brick kid) are just as offensive (if not more so) as making fun of an actual disordered character. By not "disclosing" a diagnosis, they are basically making fun of the disorder in a disguised manner. This not only makes the characters very over-the-top in their portrayal of symptoms, they also show only textbook stereotype symptoms. I am not the typical Asperger's portrayal, and this is another reason I find characters such as these to be very irritating. Amy and Sue are not meant to be Aspies, but I identify with them a lot more than Sheldon or Brick, due to the fact that they are much more realistic in their geekiness.


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30 Jan 2013, 9:41 am

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Shellfish wrote:
It won't happen - ever. Can you imagine the backlash? Laughing at someone who is 'quirky' is one thing, making fun of neurological disorders is something else entirely.

Very well said. This sums up what I was trying to say but didn't know how to word.

I personally feel that "quirky" characters who are clear stereotypes of a particular neuropsych disorder (such as Sheldon and that Brick kid) are just as offensive (if not more so) as making fun of an actual disordered character. By not "disclosing" a diagnosis, they are basically making fun of the disorder in a disguised manner. This not only makes the characters very over-the-top in their portrayal of symptoms, they also show only textbook stereotype symptoms. I am not the typical Asperger's portrayal, and this is another reason I find characters such as these to be very irritating. Amy and Sue are not meant to be Aspies, but I identify with them a lot more than Sheldon or Brick, due to the fact that they are much more realistic in their geekiness.


I know what you mean, I was reading a novel the other day where an autistic person is in it and I was totally mad about some clichées. :evil:

But still, there are some very extreme ppl, but they are very rare I guess.
My grandma is 94 and had all her life an extreme form of OCD/OPD. I have NEVER seen such an extreme form of OCD in real life and when I toled my shrink, he hardly could believe it. 8O
I just know: if you would put her on the show, a 94 year old woman, with an extreme case of OCD like that nearly everyone would scream: "clichée". ;)


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