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31 Jan 2013, 7:30 am

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As I've stated before I'd like to find a cure for the neurologically typical.

Instead of all this "find a cure for neutotypicals!1!1!!" I think people should really focus on finding a cure for those with LFA, bipolarism, schizofrenia, that make a person's life almost, or totally, impossible.

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31 Jan 2013, 7:57 am

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The only ones that are against a cure for autism are people with Asperger's and HFA. I've never heard about someone with MFA or LFA against a cure for autism. Maybe someone should ask them before saying "no, autistic people don't need a cure".

I have.

http://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/hey-watch-it-thats-attached-2/

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31 Jan 2013, 8:30 am

Ettina wrote:

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I have.

http://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/hey-watch-it-thats-attached-2/

Are there others?
However yes, even I saw people on the web claiming to have MFA/LFA and saying they didn't want a cure, though they were very few people (like one ot two).
But you know, I prefear to base what I say from my experience IRL.

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31 Jan 2013, 8:33 am

chlov wrote:

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I have.

http://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/hey-watch-it-thats-attached-2/

Are there others?

Yes there are, but most here can't talk for LFA or MFA ppl, because most of them can't express it in the way like Amanda Baggs can, so that it is just guessing.

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31 Jan 2013, 8:37 am

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most here can't talk for LFA or MFA ppl, because most of them can't express it in the way like Amanda Baggs can, so that it is just guessing.

This is the point. Most people with MFA LFA can't express them that way.

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31 Jan 2013, 8:51 am

chlov wrote:

I think people should really focus on finding a cure for those with LFA, bipolarism, schizofrenia, that make a person's life almost, or totally, impossible.

It's a bit off topic, but there are very interesting concepts about dealing disorders, not JUST meds.

Here about Bipolar for example:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mTW-3mpMM[/youtube]

Outcome-Based Education for Bipolar and Depression

The most important point is to find a possibility to deal with the disorders you have.

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31 Jan 2013, 9:02 am

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It's Not The Cure. It's Stopping The Vaccines That Do This To US....

One Word. Mercury

Oh, sure. Thimerosal is mercury, and table salt is just like inhaling chlorine.

Also, a can of tuna has more mercury than any vaccine preserved with thimerosal. When are we going to start hearing about how "Chicken of the Sea" is causing autism?

That's a very good point.

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31 Jan 2013, 9:10 am

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Kind of hard to cure something thats genetic and completly rewires your brain.

There may be a genetic component to it, but it is not entirely genetic. Maybe something genetic that makes you more prone to be autistic when other factors are present or not present. Autism does not follow the usual patterns for conditions that are genetic in origin.

As for a cure, once you are born with Autism, a cure is almost surely impossible. Treatment may help cope with the condition, but don't expect such a cure. The cure, if it exists, will most likely involve identification of the conditions in the mother that lead to the problem and treatment for those conditions while pregnant, possibly before the nervous system begins to develop in the fetus.

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31 Jan 2013, 11:05 am

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I doubt it would transform me into an extrovert who loves working with people

A cure for autism wouldn't make you an extrovert.
If you're an introvert, you'll remain an introvert, with or without autism. But autism is not the same as introversion.
I think a cure for autism would probably make autistic people able to get social cues, non-verbal language, etc.
Also, I think it would eliminate oversensority issues.
I also think it would help with self-help skills, that is probably what I would need more, because I've had self-help skills delay, therefore my self-help skills aren't appropriate for my age.
Maybe it would help with motor coordniation, too.
But I think that, if a cure will ever be found, it should be given to autistics when they're still little children, and in this case, it would be too late for me. This is why I don't really care of curing myself.

Anything that could be given to children I'm sure would work for adults also. Or I'd die trying it. lol

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31 Jan 2013, 12:35 pm

just the thought of a "cure" scared me to death. i won't know who i am. i won't be me anymore.

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31 Jan 2013, 1:29 pm

If there was one, I'd look into getting a 'cure' just because it's almost always easier to get on in life if you're 'normal'.

I don't think that Aspergers should be cured, but people should have the option if they've been properly educated about what Aspergers is (so that people understand that Aspergers probably is just different wiring of the brain, and has many plus sides, because someone could just go straight for a cure after diagnosis without really knowing what Aspergers really is), have had a fair amount of life experience (must be a certain age), and must have lived with a diagnosis for a while, and they should also know how they'll end up once 'cured' (I would really want to know about any/which skills I'd lose if 'cured').

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31 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

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[...] Aspergers is (so that people understand that Aspergers probably is just different wiring of the brain, and has many plus sides, because someone could just go straight for a cure after diagnosis without really knowing what Aspergers really is), [...]

Yes that would be my concern.
Would I lose my good memory?
My "special abilities"?
etc.

Because ASD is a different wiring, there are propably also some down sides to a "cure".

So how I've stated before, having left just minor problems with ASD, I wouldn't want a cure because of ASD, because the risks are too high.
BUT I would still want one for Bipolar (if there would be one), because even if there would be some down sides, the positive aspects in my case would be much bigger.

So I'm not generally against a "cure", but it has to be thought through very carefully and everyone is different, so that there is no general way to answer this or "right" or "wrong".

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31 Jan 2013, 1:59 pm

I'm Agendered... and basically identify as a cat... so I can't see as my opinion really counts for much here, but I present it like this:

I'm against the idea of a "cure".
I'm somewhat against even discussing it, though I know this to be an irrational bias.
My general response to "cure"-based discussion is to query why we cannot instead cure the neurotypicals of their differences from ourselves... though I know simply given the numbers involved that this is unfeasible (though in some regards it is a thought-trap, as I reckon any other reason BESIDES the numbers for opposing this idea is instantly suspect).

That said, I recognise that there are some poor sods among us that have been so abused by the mundie propaganda that they would rather be mundane themselves than continue on as they are... and even as Aspergians go, I am not even remotely diplomatic enough to convince them otherwise. I suppose if it came down to it, I wouldn't particularly want to deny them being able to make such choices for themselves...

BUT... I still insist that calling it a cure is UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE and TOTALLY DEMEANING.
It would be more reasonable to refer to it in similar terms to sex-reassignment surgery. It probably would involve brain-surgery of some sort.
So... mental-reassignment surgery....

I still hate the idea... but I can't make anyone else's decisions for them. Just my own.

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31 Jan 2013, 2:42 pm

Tyri0n wrote:

chlov wrote:

hanyo wrote:

I doubt it would transform me into an extrovert who loves working with people

Anything that could be given to children I'm sure would work for adults also. Or I'd die trying it. lol

We'll never really know, unless a cure will be found.

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31 Jan 2013, 2:59 pm

chlov wrote:

We'll never really know, unless a cure will be found.

Not knowing everything is not the same as knowing nothing.

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31 Jan 2013, 3:09 pm

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chlov wrote:

We'll never really know, unless a cure will be found.

Not knowing everything is not the same as knowing nothing.

Sorry, I didn't understand.

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