Should we concentrate ourselves in particular locations?

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Should we concentrate ourselves in particular locations?
Yes. 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
Yes, let's start picking some metros and cities. 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
No. 19%  19%  [ 7 ]
No, bad idea. 28%  28%  [ 10 ]
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26 Mar 2013, 10:53 pm

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All of this talk about planting our seeds is making me horny.


Watch "Full Metal Jacket" and imagine the "The Gunny" is motivating you to turn your sex drive into action toward "Autism Friendly Zone." And, I won't say anything about Miss Mary Jane...



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26 Mar 2013, 11:09 pm

There's a song called "One Root, One Seed" by MOON. It's about a family of like-minded individuals who develop their own area to live in because the outside world wasn't that accepting of them.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6uEI7tDgq8[/youtube]



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26 Mar 2013, 11:10 pm

... And about 10 more picked "Not a good idea" now in fear of their potential neighbors. 8O :roll:


I want to hear more about already aspie-friendly places.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:18 pm

if we set ourselves apart then people outside our group will grow prejudiced against us. We are already different and it is not that hard for the already existing prejudice to grow out of proportion through lack of contact.

If we do not segregate ourselves, there is a lot of learning and problem solving that is done better when you are near people that do not think the same way as you. If this were not true then internet forums would be useless.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:22 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
There's a song called "One Root, One Seed" by MOON. It's about a family of like-minded individuals who develop their own area to live in because the outside world wasn't that accepting of them.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6uEI7tDgq8[/youtube]


Good song! Very feel-goody.

Speaking of family, you guys do realize the implications of the genetic source of autism? If it didn't arise independently on several separate occasions that is :D

But then again I sometimes call my cat Cousin Cat as all mammals have a common origin so it depends on what degree of relatedness you consider noteworthy.. :lol:



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26 Mar 2013, 11:24 pm

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... And about 10 more picked "Not a good idea" now in fear of their potential neighbors. 8O :roll:


I want to hear more about already aspie-friendly places.


I expected the high proportion of individuals think it's a bad idea. What I'm seeing is that many people are seeing this as an attempt an isolation and separatism, rather than creating handholds of acceptance. That said, the proportion of people who think it's a good idea, or at least an idea worth exploring, is high enough to be optimistic. For my part, the small sampling that we've gotten, leaves me with a sense of optimism. I'm going to see what I can get going. As far as the places they are already asserted as autism friendly, check back a few posts. I think there been three places listed.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:29 pm

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if we set ourselves apart then people outside our group will grow prejudiced against us. We are already different and it is not that hard for the already existing prejudice to grow out of proportion through lack of contact.

If we do not segregate ourselves, there is a lot of learning and problem solving that is done better when you are near people that do not think the same way as you. If this were not true then internet forums would be useless.


I think you made a very natural and expectable mistake in interpreting what I wrote. Generally speaking, when people concentrate themselves, that implies some sort of separatism or segregation. That's not what I'm talking about. I envision communities were the general population has an understanding and appreciation of autistic people, where autistic people have additional places and events where they can socialize and network. I certainly would not think it would be appropriate or beneficial to breed dissension or separation between autistics and NTs.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:35 pm

[quote="redrobin62"]There's a song called "One Root, One Seed" by MOON. It's about a family of like-minded individuals who develop their own area to live in because the outside world wasn't that accepting of them.

Kinda Gotye meets the ghost of Bob Marley.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:42 pm

ShelbyGt500 wrote:
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... And about 10 more picked "Not a good idea" now in fear of their potential neighbors. 8O :roll:


I want to hear more about already aspie-friendly places.


I expected the high proportion of individuals think it's a bad idea. What I'm seeing is that many people are seeing this as an attempt an isolation and separatism, rather than creating handholds of acceptance. That said, the proportion of people who think it's a good idea, or at least an idea worth exploring, is high enough to be optimistic. For my part, the small sampling that we've gotten, leaves me with a sense of optimism. I'm going to see what I can get going. As far as the places they are already asserted as autism friendly, check back a few posts. I think there been three places listed.


True.
It's more making room for and not separation... I don't know how it could be a bad idea as people do gather based on things they have in common all the time, in subcultures within the mainstream - and I do realize you are talking about integration INTO the mainstream through greater numbers, which is pretty much the opposite of either a subculture or the segregation that has been brought up...

And this metaphor might not really be on point but I don't see people running around saying that it's a bad idea with bookstores as the illiterate would feel left out... It would add to a city, not detract.

Oh I read the already posted suggestions, they were interesting.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:47 pm

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Greater Hooterville? If you mean the same Hooterville as the one described in Wikipedia, I'm 30 miles away from there.

sorry, i use hooterville or yahooville or deliveranceland as a pseudonym for shelton, washington.



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26 Mar 2013, 11:54 pm

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Greater Hooterville? If you mean the same Hooterville as the one described in Wikipedia, I'm 30 miles away from there.

sorry, i use hooterville or yahooville or deliveranceland as a pseudonym for shelton, washington.


I'd call that Seattle metro area. Perhaps, a far south western suburb. And, it looks like you can easily get to Seattle by car or boat.



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27 Mar 2013, 12:00 am

ShelbyGt500 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
aspguy wrote:
Greater Hooterville? If you mean the same Hooterville as the one described in Wikipedia, I'm 30 miles away from there.

sorry, i use hooterville or yahooville or deliveranceland as a pseudonym for shelton, washington.


I'd call that Seattle metro area. Perhaps, a far south western suburb. And, it looks like you can easily get to Seattle by car or boat.

NO NO NO!! ! shelton is roughly 3 hours southwest of seattle, per traffic. shelton is a wide spot in the road, nestled between hiway 3 and hiway 101. blink and you'll miss it. seattle might as well be on the other side of the world, it is such a long and arduous drive from shelton.



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27 Mar 2013, 12:06 am

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aspguy wrote:
Greater Hooterville? If you mean the same Hooterville as the one described in Wikipedia, I'm 30 miles away from there.

sorry, i use hooterville or yahooville or deliveranceland as a pseudonym for shelton, washington.


I'd call that Seattle metro area. Perhaps, a far south western suburb. And, it looks like you can easily get to Seattle by car or boat.

NO NO NO!! ! shelton is roughly 3 hours southwest of seattle, per traffic. shelton is a wide spot in the road, nestled between hiway 3 and hiway 101. blink and you'll miss it. seattle might as well be on the other side of the world, it is such a long and arduous drive from shelton.


I'm a road warrior. But, I understand your point. That said, the Golden City of Autism for the Pacific Northwest may end up close to you.



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27 Mar 2013, 12:32 am

I have two confessions to make.
1. @ShelbyGt500 - I used to have your exact similar idea when I was in my 20's. I was idealistic and thought positively about mankind. As I got older, and got knocked around a few times, I became jaded. My rose-coloured glasses got trampled underfoot and all I saw was the ugly underbelly of mankind. It's no wonder one of my fascinations is with instruments of torture and death through the ages!
2. I wrote & produced "One Root, One Seed" and play guitar, keyboards and contributed to background vocals. (Yes, we were a rock/ska band that supposed to go on tour with No Doubt, dammit!)



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27 Mar 2013, 12:42 am

redrobin62 wrote:
I have two confessions to make.
1. @ShelbyGt500 - I used to have your exact similar idea when I was in my 20's. I was idealistic and thought positively about mankind. As I got older, and got knocked around a few times, I became jaded. My rose-coloured glasses got trampled underfoot and all I saw was the ugly underbelly of mankind. It's no wonder one of my fascinations is with instruments of torture and death through the ages!
2. I wrote & produced "One Root, One Seed" and play guitar, keyboards and contributed to background vocals. (Yes, we were a rock/ska band that supposed to go on tour with No Doubt, dammit!)


Good song. I understand your perspective. And, I'm 57 and I don't plan on growing up.



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27 Mar 2013, 12:55 am

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In my family, we had 1000 acre farm with a cabin on a lake in the middle of it. I moved out there for a summer when I was in graduate school and I acclimated very well to being with only my cats in the animals in the woods. I understand we're talking about. A year ago, when I realize that I'm autistic, I considered moving out of the city and buying a place way off in the woods to live the rest of my life as a recluse. The only thing that stopped me is that I realized I needed to do more for younger people like me. So, here I am.


There's a very interesting documentary called Alone In The Wilderness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss
He lived completely alone in an 11x14 foot cabin for 30 years. He had to have been an aspie. :)
Absolutely fascinating. But I think I'm way too urbanized for anything like that. I'm too used to a supermarket being five minutes away.

Funny thing is, one of the main reason's why I'm moving to the Seattle area is because I have younger adult relatives living there and I want to be there for them.