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04 May 2013, 4:56 pm

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People who complain about every little thing when there's people living in much worse situations.


True, but it depends exactly how this is meant. You have to allow for the fact that telling people that others have it much worse than them doesn't help to solve their own problems. It may provide a perspective, but it doesn't actually help anyone.


In my experience, telling people that others have it much worse than them is a slightly more elaborate way of saying "Shut up." Problems are problems and they can be real and valid and upsetting or distressing without being the worst problems anyone has ever experienced in the history of the universe..



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04 May 2013, 5:02 pm

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I'm not castigating anyone. I just don't get along with them.

It's a bit like being allergic to kittens. A person may very well like kittens, but they are unable to be around them due to reasons beyond their control. Ironically, highly dramatic/emotional people set me off and cause a brain implosion; I realize it's not their fault, but my brain reacts negatively anyway.

My particular impairment is I under-react to most events in life, which isn't always preferred. I almost got DXed with Schizoid PD because of it.


I agree with this.

My post was about anger over numerous things that would often be considered minor or which don't affect someone personally. I overcame it in my late teens because I recognized it as something I simply had to do if I wanted certain things in life, such as to read online forums without becoming depressed or angry, maintain greater stability (oh, precious stability!), etc.

I don't see anything wrong with not getting along with such people and fully understand anyone who didn't get along with or want to be around me when I was younger. You never know the what, when, or why of you becoming a talking point and it encourages more and lower mood dips as well as needless criticism of others in me if I listen to it. I don't blame those who've honestly tried and can't improve, but that doesn't mean I need to enjoy being around them because of its emotional effect on me or not post it in a thread like this.



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04 May 2013, 7:13 pm

Verdandi wrote:
Tequila wrote:
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People who complain about every little thing when there's people living in much worse situations.


True, but it depends exactly how this is meant. You have to allow for the fact that telling people that others have it much worse than them doesn't help to solve their own problems. It may provide a perspective, but it doesn't actually help anyone.


In my experience, telling people that others have it much worse than them is a slightly more elaborate way of saying "Shut up." Problems are problems and they can be real and valid and upsetting or distressing without being the worst problems anyone has ever experienced in the history of the universe..


I prefer to try and come up with helpful solutions to a person's problems than use the 'others have it far worse' line but if after coming up with endless suggestions for how to tackle a problem the person rejects all of them I will sometimes end up saying the 'others have it far worse' line out of sheer exasperation and as a last resort, having run out of ideas.

I do often remind myself of how others have things worse too as a way of telling myself to put my problems into perspective so it can be a useful self-help thing



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04 May 2013, 7:33 pm

Extreme extroverts - I'm only slightly introverted and can get on with chatty people, but some people are too extreme
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04 May 2013, 7:37 pm

People who form cliques and band together to bully and ostracise those who are individuals who don't toe the party line

People who take their opinion from the group rather than thinking for themself



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04 May 2013, 7:39 pm

nessa238 wrote:
I prefer to try and come up with helpful solutions to a person's problems than use the 'others have it far worse' line but if after coming up with endless suggestions for how to tackle a problem the person rejects all of them I will sometimes end up saying the 'others have it far worse' line out of sheer exasperation and as a last resort, having run out of ideas.


Some people just want to vent and don't want solutions, and offered solutions can be irritating in that context. But it helps to just say "I don't really need solutions, I just want to be heard" instead of letting it go like that by shooting all help down.



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04 May 2013, 7:52 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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I prefer to try and come up with helpful solutions to a person's problems than use the 'others have it far worse' line but if after coming up with endless suggestions for how to tackle a problem the person rejects all of them I will sometimes end up saying the 'others have it far worse' line out of sheer exasperation and as a last resort, having run out of ideas.


Some people just want to vent and don't want solutions, and offered solutions can be irritating in that context. But it helps to just say "I don't really need solutions, I just want to be heard" instead of letting it go like that by shooting all help down.


Yes, it would be better if they stated what they wanted out of the conversation



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04 May 2013, 8:13 pm

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I prefer to try and come up with helpful solutions to a person's problems than use the 'others have it far worse' line but if after coming up with endless suggestions for how to tackle a problem the person rejects all of them I will sometimes end up saying the 'others have it far worse' line out of sheer exasperation and as a last resort, having run out of ideas.


Some people just want to vent and don't want solutions, and offered solutions can be irritating in that context. But it helps to just say "I don't really need solutions, I just want to be heard" instead of letting it go like that by shooting all help down.


Yes, it would be better if they stated what they wanted out of the conversation


One of the most frustrating things is when people don't state what they want and then get angry when they don't get it.



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04 May 2013, 8:19 pm

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Verdandi wrote:
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I prefer to try and come up with helpful solutions to a person's problems than use the 'others have it far worse' line but if after coming up with endless suggestions for how to tackle a problem the person rejects all of them I will sometimes end up saying the 'others have it far worse' line out of sheer exasperation and as a last resort, having run out of ideas.


Some people just want to vent and don't want solutions, and offered solutions can be irritating in that context. But it helps to just say "I don't really need solutions, I just want to be heard" instead of letting it go like that by shooting all help down.


Yes, it would be better if they stated what they wanted out of the conversation


One of the most frustrating things is when people don't state what they want and then get angry when they don't get it.


Very true but I know I am not good at knowing what I really want or articulating it plus it changes all the time as well.
I find it hard even choosing what chocolate bar to have so bigger things concerning emotional reactions to things are even harder.



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04 May 2013, 9:07 pm

Arrogance. Which is much more common than people usually realize. There is always more to do and see and learn and grow. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to grow up a bit before I'll hang with them.


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04 May 2013, 9:35 pm

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Well I am skinny so maybe not.


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04 May 2013, 9:41 pm

People who live their lives and never question anything, which is the majority of the population. I guess, to a degree, I envy those people; they are blissfully ignorant. Yet I also despise them, because they are the reason why the world is in such bad shape.



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04 May 2013, 10:08 pm

Republicans.

HA! Just kidding. Actually I'm not kidding, but I just wrote that to be a smartass. In reality, see the following...

** People who love to argue just for the sake of arguing. They generally believe that talking louder than anybody else in the room makes them right.
** People who are having a hard time, but when you give them possible solutions to their problem, they automatically say "Oh, I've already tried that and it didn't work", you knowing full well that they never didn't.
** Women who are too "girly". I just want to strangle women who have spent the last hour talking about making curtains.
** People who have a narrow view of the world and its inhabitants, and flat-out refuse to consider expanding it.



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05 May 2013, 1:14 am

The only people I inherently don't get along with are the people who go out party, do drugs, drink, and have sex.


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05 May 2013, 3:40 am

In spite of working hard to get along with everyone, there is one person who I cannot seem to get along with at all -- a nephew of mine.

He has the most hair trigger temper of anyone I know. Say just one minor thing to him that he doesn't want to hear and he becomes enraged within a very few seconds.

For example, one time he was cooking spaghetti. When he added the spaghetti to the boiling water, he just put it in and left much of the ends sticking out instead of trying to put them in as soon as the spaghetti in the water was cooked enough to be pliable. I imagine that the resulting cooked spaghetti is either going to be undercooked on the one end or he has to overcook the entire amount of spaghetti. When I made the simple suggestion that he should try to push the ends of the spaghetti sticking above the water into the water, he went into a completely uncontrollable rage like nobody else I've ever seen.

Fortunately, he lives hundreds of miles away and I don't have to deal with him often.

No matter how hard you might try to get along with everyone, there are some people who are beyond help.



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05 May 2013, 3:44 am

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People who love to argue just for the sake of arguing. They generally believe that talking louder than anybody else in the room makes them right.


I generally enjoy calm, reasoned debates and that might be interpreted as loving to argue for the sake of arguing. However, talking louder than anybody else in the room doesn't mean you are correct -- often, it is quite the opposite.