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16 Mar 2007, 6:13 am

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Haughty? I can assure you that my IQ doesn't back me up on that... I don't think even a "beyond metrics" IQ would.

If the fact that I mentioned that I could read at 4 or read the "Don Quijote" by 6, or that I mention that I have a metric of 137, or tried to make a joke mentioning Marilyn Von Savant and Bill Gates are the reasons to think that I am belittling anyone, then I want to make a PUBLIC APOLOGY.

I, simply, thought that I didn't need to control my expressions to make my participation "palatable" and assume that a fact-statement approach would be the best. Never was my intention to offend, insult or make anybody feel uncomfortable. I can certainly control my expressions and the way I present my point of view; but, then, controlling myself is something I am used to and was hoping not to need to do it here.

Of course a high IQ is no guarantee of success. Of course is just a test with many possible outcomes from the same person on different days and under different situations. Of course that tests assume one answer when another fits... (and generally, they are designed to measure this possibility).

Anyway, I guess I am overextending and boring people with this.
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And if I am misunderstanding and missing the point and I am not the one called "haughty", then... I just tend to do that sometimes.

You asked me why I seemed to be saying what I was. Although I tried to show how you and I were similar in those milestones, etc... I wasn't accusing you of being haughty, OR belittling anyone. The post wasn't even really directed to you other than to answer your question. When I spoke of belittling, etc..., I was trying to mitigate possible accusations that **I** was! Sometimes when I say why I am mitigating the meaning of somethings affect people think I am denigrating it. I just wanted to make it clear I'm NOT doing that.

As for the Marilyn Vos savant comment? I, and people I know, haven't been impressed with her. So I see her stated IQ as simply a number. I've known people that have a lower IQ that just SEEM smarter.

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16 Mar 2007, 6:17 am

true, but that may be because she is NAS.

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16 Mar 2007, 6:39 am

calandale wrote:

true, but that may be because she is NAS.

What do you mean by NAS?

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17 Mar 2007, 5:48 am

except tickle which seems to be always higher...i seem to always be in the 130 's

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18 Mar 2007, 10:35 pm

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You have to be careful about IQ tests
A properly done one will have two scores

a verbal IQ and a performance one.
Example my verbal IQ is 146 but my performance IQ is 94.

Often aspies will have a big variation between the two.

Last time I was tested I had very similar results, my Verbal IQ was 3 standard deviations above average (around 145 IIRC) and my performance IQ was 90-something.

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18 Mar 2007, 11:02 pm

my dyslexic son under 100 IQ and he has incredibly usable intelligence. if he could read/understand IQ test as written, he would score way higher. Major part of the test is comprehending the question

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18 Mar 2007, 11:54 pm

SteveK wrote:

Feibel wrote:

The "ALL are BS" comment was made by NoCriminalIntent. I don't know if I trust that person. Was that the SAME one that said you should go back and guess? If so, then OF COURSE the score would be different.

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Not sure what you need to trust me for. And never said anything bout going back.

My point about IQ tests is that I dont see the value. They define someones ability to do what? Its intelligence as defined by a social structure that squeezes the life out of peoples hearts and minds.

I having nothing but disrespect for our form of education to begin with, where the sole reason for its existence is to teach us how to use the brain for linear thought purposes that are marketable in later life. Forget teaching children how to communicate from the heart, how to share feelings with other children, how to understand differences in people or how to find their hearts calling, or how to learn expression through the arts, or any of the many things that we could be teaching students that have great worth. We teach them what will be useful in the marketplace. We teach them from an early age that they are robots being prepared to continue the functioning of a sick society.

And IQ tests are nothing more than a tool in the systems tool chest. And I think they're BS.

But thats just me.

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19 Mar 2007, 12:00 am

SteveK wrote:

calandale wrote:

true, but that may be because she is NAS.

What do you mean by NAS?

Non-AS. I like it better than NT. It expresses the category which I want to describe more clearly, while NT is a smaller set.

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19 Mar 2007, 1:09 am

NoCriminalIntent wrote:

And IQ tests are nothing more than a tool in the systems tool chest. And I think they're BS.

But thats just me.

No, not just you. I've been through many of them, and my scores have been consistent regardless of type of test, over a 35+ year period. The results were not the sort to elicit a "sour grapes" response. I just never thought that they provided a useful result. What are they measuring? They're supposed to correlate to some measure of success in life, but what is that? I'm not at all materialistic, I could consider myself to have succeeded at life without ever having had a job at all. I didn't like school beyond second grade. So what is this metric supposed to mean, and who is it supposed to benefit? If Mensa doesn't sound interesting to me, is there any point in even picking up the pencil?

Anyhow, couldn't agree more.

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19 Mar 2007, 1:11 am

The tests measure your IQ, which is your ability to do well on standardized intelligence tests. That's all.

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19 Mar 2007, 1:27 am

SteveK wrote:

ahayes wrote:

Tickle.com seems to figure out IQ in the following fashion:

Code:

int OnGetIQ()
{
   return rand()%41+100;
}

That is, a random number between 100 and 140.

Why do you say that? I only took it once, and my score was a little under 140(I tried to answer two questions in a more truthful way, they were overly self deprecating, and I think I slipped on one other, I would have gotten it right) I guess, in retrospect, 140 probably was close to the top, but why do you think it is random?

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I've gone through putting in wrong answers on purpose and still got a score of 133.

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19 Mar 2007, 6:17 am

ahayes wrote:

SteveK wrote:

ahayes wrote:

Tickle.com seems to figure out IQ in the following fashion:

Code:

int OnGetIQ()
{
   return rand()%41+100;
}

That is, a random number between 100 and 140.

I've gone through putting in wrong answers on purpose and still got a score of 133.

Are you saying you answered ******EVERY****** question wrong, and got a score of 133?????? If so, that is SCARY! HOW could they justify such a high IQ with NO questions right? Oh well, if that IS what you mean, it means that perhaps the most popular online test is WORTHLESS!

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19 Mar 2007, 11:05 am

On the MENSA IQ test I scored 136 and on the Tickle 133.

And English is not even my native language...

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