Should autistic s be able to euthanize themselves ?

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05 Jan 2018, 9:28 am

We have a bunch of pill pushers at this time. We don't need needle pushers. If anyone trys to push a needle on me, I'd sue them.


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05 Jan 2018, 7:14 pm

Also I'm tired of the fact that this topic comes up on here every so often. That so many people think it's an acceptable thing.



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05 Jan 2018, 8:10 pm

livingwithautism wrote:
Also I'm tired of the fact that this topic comes up on here every so often. That so many people think it's an acceptable thing.


It is depressing to me but I do not favor censoring these types of posts. It is a reminder that so much needs to be changed.


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06 Jan 2018, 12:52 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
Also I'm tired of the fact that this topic comes up on here every so often. That so many people think it's an acceptable thing.


It is depressing to me but I do not favor censoring these types of posts. It is a reminder that so much needs to be changed.


I never said anything about censoring posts. I only expressed how I feel about these types of posts.



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06 Jan 2018, 1:23 am

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Being able to euthanize yourself is legal in 3 countrys and just recently they started letting those with terminal illness's in the usa euthanize them self's.


I feel we should have the right just as those with terminal illness's, we're forever set up for failure and those with low functioning autism have it real bad and will probably never even be able to understand just how distorted their reality is.


The great majority of autistic s can't even drive a car let alone act appropriately and are prone to violent outbursts or sexual abuse, some of these autistic's are aware of their faults and can do nothing to stop it .


Not only that most of us will never be happy or at least to a point that is normal.


hmm...and what if the low functioning autistic does not want to be euthanized? Who makes the decision? A caretaker that decides it's best? Also I don't think sexual abuse is something that one can do 'nothing' to stop, quite simple don't sexually abuse people.


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06 Jan 2018, 6:33 am

livingwithautism wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
Also I'm tired of the fact that this topic comes up on here every so often. That so many people think it's an acceptable thing.


It is depressing to me but I do not favor censoring these types of posts. It is a reminder that so much needs to be changed.


I never said anything about censoring posts. I only expressed how I feel about these types of posts.


Ok, now I understand and agree with you.


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06 Jan 2018, 7:11 am

livingwithautism wrote:
Also I'm tired of the fact that this topic comes up on here every so often. That so many people think it's an acceptable thing.


Exactly. But, I think in regard to this particular post, the meaning or intent wasn't as much about the right to die, but, rather, the way the original poster describes autistic people. This is a hateful post that has been restarted, after a 2 or 3 year hiatus. It seems as though someone, or multiple members, are taking this action. I have been noticing this occur all around the forum for the past week or two. The person/people have the same style of writing and seem disdainful towards autistic people, as if they are purposely attempting to say, in so many words, that we should consider killing ourselves, because we possess the negative attributes mentioned in his original post, all of which are absolutely, false. This is quite disconcerting.



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06 Jan 2018, 7:58 am

View the statement made by the poster who drug the thread back up. He and the OP either have the same or similar mindsets, or, perhaps, it is possible they are one and the same, with multiple accounts, which is what appears to be occurring in various sub-forums around the forum.



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06 Jan 2018, 9:12 am

I honestly think that everyone should have the right to end their life if they don't deem it livable, regardless of what disease or condition they have or lack. IMO it should be a human right, and I think it's wrong to keep people alive against their will.

If I reach the point where I no longer want to live, I should have the right to go out without having to resort to dramatic and painful ways.

(In the same way I think it's wrong that some medications are so expensive that people have to die against their will because they can't afford it/ it's not supported by their country's health programs.)


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06 Jan 2018, 10:11 am

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Hi Skillpad, Did you happen to read the original post, in it's entirety?



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06 Jan 2018, 1:43 pm

It’s the coward’s way out, whether you call it euthanasia or suicide.



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06 Jan 2018, 1:53 pm

Anyone who wants to be euthanized should be allowed to have it done. But there should be an age limit (after 20 or something). It shouldn't be allowed just because they're autistic, but for anyone because they're permanently agitated or unhappy and feel that they can't live any longer. It should obviously be a last resort and they should have to legally argue with the court and successfully convince them that they were unable to find any better alternative and are aware of what they're doing.



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06 Jan 2018, 3:00 pm

Autists can kill themselves whenever they want. I don't get euthanasia, do it yourself or don't bother.



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06 Jan 2018, 5:16 pm

livingwithautism wrote:
It’s the coward’s way out, whether you call it euthanasia or suicide.


I also agree that it's the coward's way out. I'd rather be a soldier than a coward.


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06 Jan 2018, 5:48 pm

I think if anyone were able to end their life at any time, that would defeat the purpose of life, which is to keep moving through obstacles and improve. There's always a chance that things can get better.



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06 Jan 2018, 6:13 pm

sAMY wrote:
The great majority of autistic s can't even drive a car let alone act appropriately and are prone to violent outbursts or sexual abuse, some of these autistic's are aware of their faults and can do nothing to stop it .


1. Meltdowns aren't violent outburst, if your truly having a meltdown you'll do what you can to get out of the situation not provoke a bad situation. I have never hit anyone in a meltdown, maybe not been nice, but violence normally involves violating ones rights, meltdowns make you a dick, they are not violent.

2. Where in the hell did you get that autistic people are prone to sexually abuse? There is pretty clear line there that you can't use autism to defend. Maybe act sexually inappropriate because of being socially inappropriate but holding someone down and raping them does not fall into being sexually inappropriate. That is called rape and I haven't heard of autistic people doing it more then the average population. A person saying no, equals no, there isn't much room to move around here and if anything they are victicms because and autistic person might not have a good ability to communicate no but to be honest, they kind of have to get over that. But my point is they probably have more of a burden in this dept, autistic people don't have an excuse or a right to run around abusing people.

3. Normally being aware of faults is after the fact so yes I agree with you and yes it sucks but where in the hell did you get information to classify us as violent sexual offenders?