What else is there thatcould give me symptoms of Asperger's?

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26 Apr 2007, 7:20 pm

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[ Also, it may help people to tolerate Aspie "quirks" better if they understand why the person is doing it. I wonder if this one friend I had might have not gotten so frustrated with me for not "magically understanding" why she was upset and what I was doing wrong, if she had known I had NLD (I hadn't been diagnosed yet), and that I honestly couldn't do anything other than ask her directly about it, which she hated.

I think this label will be an extraordinary weapon we will give to NT people, for them to launch over us, at the moments we can stop then buliing, at this moments they will say: this is because your disorder... or, I know about your crazy diagnosis... or... anything about mental disorders and so one!

Well, what I can say to people is: if you want to suffer from aspergers go on, and pay a doctor to diagnosis you, stigmatizing you as an idiot, but you have an option, you have not to be this suffering idiot, you can be yourself and say you are an aspie!

And, in fact, what kind of idiot are us all??? read all that description that really suits on us, why to say we suffer from that??? Why to stay at the corners suffering from an invented illness that should be only cause to proud?

Well, what I say is: if you are an aspie, so raise your head and be proud of it, and that must be to be an aspie!! !

Let us make this moment our time, let us stop suffering aspergers, let us stop suffering everything, by now we will raise our head and be true prouded aspie, that is in fact only to be an aspie!! !

So be an aspie, and be proud of it!! !


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26 Apr 2007, 8:35 pm

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I think this label will be an extraordinary weapon we will give to NT people, for them to launch over us, at the moments we can stop then buliing, at this moments they will say: this is because your disorder... or, I know about your crazy diagnosis... or... anything about mental disorders and so one!


I don't know what kind of NTs you hang out with, but there are plenty who are more tolerant of differences once they understand the cause. Only a jerk would throw a diagnosis back in your face, and I would hope I wouldn't be hanging out with them anyway.

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Well, what I can say to people is: if you want to suffer from aspergers go on, and pay a doctor to diagnosis you, stigmatizing you as an idiot, but you have an option, you have not to be this suffering idiot, you can be yourself and say you are an aspie!


Not sure where you're getting the "idiot" from. Do you think that a diagnosis of Asperger's equates with a "diagnosis" of idiot?

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And, in fact, what kind of idiot are us all??? read all that description that really suits on us, why to say we suffer from that??? Why to stay at the corners suffering from an invented illness that should be only cause to proud?


A lot of people feel like they do in fact "suffer" with this disorder. There are plenty of people on here who had miserable childhoods and continue to have adulthoods deeply affected in negative ways by their Asperger's. Don't they have the right to term it "suffering" if that describes their experience? It's great that you're so happy being an Aspie- plenty of people aren't.



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26 Apr 2007, 9:34 pm

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Thanks SeriousGIrl, but I didn't make myslef clear, but I actually got that one - I meant
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He gives an example of a teenage student correcting a teacher in class.



If you correct your teacher, it will cause her to have a state of mind such as embarassed and furious. You should be able to predict this and not correct the teacher even if she is wrong.


I corrected teachers (several actually and a couple who were quite shocked) because I had almost a compulsion to not tolerate error. I realize now of course that could be insulting but at the time to me it would seem that a instructor should know. I was also tossed out of religion class to study in the library on my own because I caused too much controversy.

Funny thing is - this is STILL an area where I defintely lack tact because I still assume people want to be informed and forget the social formalities (lol). Then they get insulted or think that I am very critical. And I really do not do it deliberately.



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26 Apr 2007, 9:41 pm

Whatever label you have people do tend to toss is back at you whether they are jerks or not. I think it must be too much of a temptation for them especially if they are wrong to just say you are "crazy" or whatever instead of saying they are sorry. Of course if someone constantly refers to you that way then they are not a good friend - but I think sometimes people get overly sensitive about that stuff too.



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27 Apr 2007, 9:53 am

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What I say is that I can label myself or not, but won't permit a specialist labels me, specially if he will label me with an inexistent illness_ I am aspie, I don't suffer from it!! !
and, of course, it is good to me to know I am aspie, but the medical diagnosis won't change my believe!

and, notice the following; read again that aspie description you posted above, why should anyone depictured in that would suffer from aspergers??? why shoud he be diagnosed ? What illness justifies it?


Whatever you do is up to you! I don't really care. Asperger's is not considered an illness in the US. Lots of people have labels such as "dyslexiic," but they don't walk around with them stamped on their foreheads. Many kids have the "ADHD" label. I believe that something like 30% of kids have some type of label.

Having a diagnosis has helped me to adapt and given me information I needed to better get along with people.

If you don't need one, don't get one!


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27 Apr 2007, 2:24 pm

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Not sure where you're getting the "idiot" from. Do you think that a diagnosis of Asperger's equates with a "diagnosis" of idiot? .


I believe it is generally seen like this, anyway mental diagnosis are allways seen as depreciating, I believe even the specialist that diagnosis people that want to be diagnosis there believe the guy who wants it an idiot!

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A lot of people feel like they do in fact "suffer" with this disorder. There are plenty of people on here who had miserable childhoods and continue to have adulthoods deeply affected in negative ways by their Asperger's. Don't they have the right to term it "suffering" if that describes their experience? It's great that you're so happy being an Aspie- plenty of people aren't.


This is really a goog point that shows a paradox at different conceptions of aspiness. The description shown above in this thread is not compatible with sufferings


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27 Apr 2007, 2:30 pm

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Whatever label you have people do tend to toss is back at you whether ....


Yes, and we need not to go far to collect examples of such bad manners. 8O


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27 Apr 2007, 2:36 pm

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...Asperger's is not considered an illness in the US. Having a diagnosis has helped me to adapt and given me information I needed to better get along with people. ...
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What are neurologists diagnosing at US?


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