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Do you smoke?
Yes. 12%  12%  [ 11 ]
No, I vape. 4%  4%  [ 4 ]
I vape and smoke. 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
I used to smoke. 9%  9%  [ 8 ]
Yes, but weed. 12%  12%  [ 11 ]
No. 57%  57%  [ 51 ]
Total votes : 90

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01 Jul 2016, 6:27 pm

No, I have sensory issues with smoking (smell) and it makes me eyes water


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02 Jul 2016, 10:33 am

I vape.

I smoked from I was about 11 untill last year. I was smoking about 60 a day, a very heavy chain smoker, and was rapidly killing myself with a diagnosis of emphysema as well as crippling my finances.

I first quit using the drug champax, but coming off that triggered me into a terrible suicidal depression which was by far the worst of my adult life.

I started to vape, because it was that or ask for Ritalin from the doctor. My ADHD spiralled totally out of control as well as my moods, but I discovered that vaping gives me back both my ability to focus by using the stimulant noose when I need it, and the calming ritual
It even let's me 'go outside for a smoke' when I'm overwhelmed in work, it's all win for me. And the emphysema went away and got diagnosed back down to asthma, which is under control for the first time in my adult life.

My personal advice would be, if you smoke, try to switch to vaping, hard as the transition is, once you are thing the initial hell of craving all the extra poisons in cigarettes, you won't know yourself for the added health and wealth.
If you don't smoke at all, never start, any form of it.

But for the general debate, my personal experience is that both the drug and the behaviour (swimming, ritual, escape opportunity) affect my autism, and that's part of why I need to vape.



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02 Jul 2016, 10:51 am

drlaugh wrote:
Going over small details.

I'm prone to do that, at times.

drlaugh wrote:
Please define pedantism.


pedant --
from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 4th Edition
n. One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal rules.
n. One who exhibits one's learning or scholarship ostentatiously.
n. Obsolete A schoolmaster.

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Aren't we being conditioned to repeat something, on specious, moral grounds?

Have you ever seen morbid images, in an electronics, engineering, or chemistry textbook?



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02 Jul 2016, 11:00 am

I appreciate that some people will have negative, physical responses, but I consider this to be a mild CNS depressant with anti-inflammatory properties, in some cases, credited with controlling the spread of TB, in the confining atmosphere of a prison. This could be helpful in dealing with anxiety, depending on your tolerances.

Or, we might be discussing a social cause. :roll:



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02 Jul 2016, 11:14 am

I believe it is smoking cessation (that is stopping) that is connected to TB control.

Me... Not that kind of doctor


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02 Jul 2016, 12:01 pm

Is Farnam a troll?



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02 Jul 2016, 12:08 pm

Aniihya wrote:
Is Farnam a troll?


Nope, I am very human, why do you ask?

Ok, reading back over my reply, maybe it read a bit like an add for one particular position, but it wasn't intended to, it was just my experience and I've had a year from hell on this particular issue giving up smoking so maybe I sound slightly overly enthusiastic for the way that finally worked for me. Please no one start vaping if you don't need too...



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02 Jul 2016, 12:23 pm

drlaugh wrote:
I believe it is smoking cessation (that is stopping) that is connected to TB control.


If you want to rely on internet research, I can find whatever belief, you like.

However, my beliefs are in favor of controlling noone but myself.

I find that people are biased by external authority, more than responsible self-ownership.

Also, your treatment option, regardless of it's pro's and con's, requires me to deal with market controls and social sanctions. I have to leave informed consent behind, because I am not allowed to choose for myself, on my terms.

For instance, let's say that (fill in the blank) is the cure for all ills. Only you may traffic in it. Every alternative is evil, and so is independence from your institution (rhetorically speaking.)

Maybe, your remedy works. Maybe, it doesn't. Maybe, it's somewhere in between. My reservations about it are only social.

What was your remedy, by the way. Is it something, which I get to administer, or are you asking me to trust someone else with my safety. Is it flawed, in any way, whatsoever, and should we say it's the end of the world.

Again, my reservations are only social. I am biased but openly acknowledge my biases.



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02 Jul 2016, 12:48 pm

My experience is smoke (all )makes me cough.

Another experiencd is my mother quitting smoking tobacco when she died.

Actually she quit when she had a tube put in to help her breathe.

Prior to that she would use her nebulizer in the morning and cigarettes in the afternoon.


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02 Jul 2016, 1:02 pm

My aunt died, in a rather graphic manner, from pancreatic cancer.

But, what was your practical alternative, which offers all the same benefits as tobacco.



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02 Jul 2016, 1:18 pm

Yes, but only weed baby lol

Funny you should add this to the poll when it doesn't have that much to do with the actual topic of nicotine. Besides, pro tip, smoking is a terrible way to get THC in your body. You have drinks with it, food and even THC pills but I smoke once or twice a week. Avoid cannabis tea though, that'll make you puke because your drinking butter lol weed isn't water soluble. I am praying this upcoming vote on the rescheduling of weed legalizes this stuff for everyone, don't reschedule it, freaking deschedule it.

Also when I smoke nicotine, I smoke so much it hurts my lungs because of my OCD so weed is by far the best choice for me. Infrequent enough use in terms of smoking and I get just enough THC from other means for medical purposes. The government lied, its not intoxicating in low dosages and does relieve anxiety. How is getting loaded on weed any different then overdosing on say Zoloft? Why do we need to test the limits of a sane amount of weed, you don't need that much. I say legalize it and put a warning label about driving in say the first week or so kinda like "Use care until you become familiar with its effect".

I don't walk around intoxicated all the time, I mean wtf they need to fix this. Why are medical patients going to jail? Why does Obama not care?



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02 Jul 2016, 2:02 pm

Also, my grandma was a heavy smoker and died from lung cancer (no one else in my family has has lung cancer except her).


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02 Jul 2016, 2:37 pm

My family is mostly non smoking. However family life expectancy here is 60 years. It is sort of like a curse: Either get heart disease and die of heart attack at 55 or be a smoker and die of emphysema at 75. I didnt get the heart disease but ended up smoking cuz grandma did. She died at 79. I only smoke a quarter as much as she did. However my grandmother was my role model. She was chill and probably the only irreligious person on my dads side of the family. I left religion because she told me that I cant rely on some deity to change my life, because I myself am control of my own fate. I am likely to die at 55 or 60 because of HIES though.



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02 Jul 2016, 2:39 pm

Farnam, I asked because starting at 11 and 60 cigs a day which is difficult to believe.



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03 Jul 2016, 5:52 am

Ok, well, I started smoking at 11 as I used to rob packs for the older boys I would hang out with when bunking off school, and then smoke with them, although I wasn't regularly smoking until about the age of 16.

I did smoke 3 packs a day most days in the last few years, so about 60 a day. That involves chain smoking, lighting one as you put out the previous one, but that's what I used to do. It was horrible.



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22 Jul 2019, 11:55 pm

I was a heavy smoker during three years until I noticed how awful I look, feel and breathe. I managed to give up due to an [url=https: and hope I will never back to nicotine, again.



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